Yes, I like peanut. A lot of you can fuck out my brains. Yes, but not you. But I'm about to do whatever.
Someone was talking about that song today, old song, Peña Colada. And I just said, I just decided to make a gay version of it. I like it. I need to hear more of it.
Yes, I like Peña. It's a lot of this is what I do when it's cold. Yes, I need a full version of that song. Please, I don't think I'm going to invest in a full parody.
Oh, come on. You can't just do that. That's a weird thing. It's a first course.
Yeah, I was thinking, you know, guys running a train on you, you know, rain and train. But then I'm like, this is really gay for Sunday morning. This is incredibly, you know, as a storyteller, you got to go into the story. And I just don't know if I want to think about, I know some of our listeners want to think about a hundred guys pounding my poor little Virgin asshole, not necessarily a virgin asshole, you know, but I haven't been fucked in the ass, you know, since I was seven.
But, oh, yeah. Soon. That's the type of show we do, kids. That's the, you know what?
Let's just start that crazy show. One, two, three, four. Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange.
Come and join the kinky world of play. Hello, happy 2025, which is now two weeks into it based on a, whatever. Hello and welcome to Pervity Podcast, the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and the human mind. We're recording on Sunkast where I've got big news to share.
And it's not that bookies getting hair plugs this year. I'm Paffirl. I am count Boogie. What do you mean I'm getting hair plugs this year?
No, I said it's not. You're not going to have news, but it's not you're getting hair plugs. Oh, that's good. Because I wouldn't get hair plugs because I'm, I'm, I'm proud to be bald and not faking it.
I, I, it's true. That's what literally I was adopted. So I didn't know whether or not I was going to go bald, you know, but I was, my hair was my life, having long hair was my life. And then all the different haircuts and the colors and, you know, back when it was not lame to have colored hair.
Um, you know, it was a big deal to me and I was always like, am I going to go bald? Am I going to go bald? I don't know. It was, you know, genetic lottery because I was adopted.
I don't know my biological anything. So, uh, so I was probably about 28, 29. I started seeing some hints. And I'm like, Oh, and then I was in a class.
I was in an acting class and I was like maybe 32. And, uh, I don't know if I ever showed this on the show before. And we had to do these, you know, we had to do scenes and then they videotape the scene and then everyone ripped your asshole apart. Um, you know, to tell you why you suck and how to get better.
And there was these heavy lights right above us. Right. And I remember I was getting into this scene and I was horrible actor. And I was getting into it and I was leaning forward and these lights were shining right down on top of my head.
And, uh, when we watched it back, everyone's like, Oh, this and that and all I could see was the not lie. There is no, there is no motherfucker. You are going bald. There's an episode of SpongeBob, we're going, Bob Bob Bob Bob.
Yeah, there was no denying it. And I did what I swore I would always do. I swore if I was going to go bald, I wasn't going to be a bitch about it. I was just going to own it and and and not do combovers and plugs and just jump onto that fucking journey.
I was just going to own that this is what I am. This is, this is the hand that evolution gave me. And I went home right after that class. I shaved my head off and I've been bald every fucking day of my life.
Wow. So I am a bald man because I involved. That's you are bald and you are proud. Uncle Fesser is unite.
But the un-fest- and I have that was one of my best costumes with this is being that and then fingering her butthole while people were trick or treating. That was a great memory. Don't don't ask. Talk about it on the show a long time ago.
I don't think that can be our cards for that one. I think that's, you know, and if that's the benefit of being bald that creepy women want me to dress up as Fester and I can finger their butthole, then fuck here. But what's your good news? My big news is I'm a gay.
I'm a gay, I'm a gay, I'm a gay, I'm a gay, I'm a gay, I'm a gay. Yeah. Sorry. Just a little bit excited.
Yay. I dropped out. You dropped out for like literally 20 seconds. So I said, what's your good news?
Do you serious? Are you fucking serious? What's your good news? I'm engaged.
I'm engaged. I'm engaged. I'm engaged. Don is pop the question.
That's it. That's it. Free anal for life. For gosh.
Free anal. That's all I hear. I'm like, he put a ring on it. He gets to sodomize it.
That's pretty much my body is now his officially. Well, when we get married officially, but yes, I am officially off the market. Oh my god. That is, I have so many thoughts and things and you know that I'm not a marriage fan and that so but I am truly happy for you.
Thank you. And because I know this is something that that of course you would want if you found the right person and all of our years of doing this. So that he did it. I did not expect this.
This was not expected. No. Well, I had a small hint because like, I don't know, six or seven weeks ago, he's like, you know, right before Chris or like right before Black Friday, he's like, Hey, I'm going to need you jewelry sizes. And of course, my girl door goes up goes, what?
You need jewelry size. And then like a little while later, his mom's like, Oh, yeah, I ordered something for you and my daughter's and I was like, Oh, she probably ordered something. All right. Fine.
So that kind of threw me off. And then a couple of days before Christmas, he's like, Hey, you know that bottle of sparkling wine we have? And you should bring it up for Christmas. And I'm like, why am I bringing up sparkling wine for Christmas?
We never drink at your grandmother's house for Christmas. And he's like, Uh, yeah, we should have to save it for the first night in the house since we're closing at our house later this week. Right. And then I'm just like, all of that.
I mean, I spent thankfully, I had a therapy session right before Christmas and half an hour it was just me going back and forth with my therapist going, I know, I know. Why would he do this? I know. Oh my God.
It was a scary call. And he did it. I mean, would have been horribly tragically funny if he would have been like, Hey, here's a promise ring or whatever dumb engagement ring. I've always tried to live my life.
I I rather be pleasantly surprised and disappointed. And yeah, especially my therapist and other people are like, you need to understand he may not propose you need to understand he may have bought your bracelet. He may have bought you a cute ring. Whatever it is.
You have to prepare for the disappointment. And it's just Christmas Eve. I'm like looking at the outline of his jeans, like trying to find green boxes. Oh my God.
I'm for a hard cock on this one. No, and I'm just sitting there going, we're at his family's house. He's probably to do it there. And Christmas Eve came and went and nothing happened.
I'm like, OK, OK, we're good. OK. And so and then Christmas comes and we're at his where he lives. He temporarily lives with his mom after his divorce and we're sitting on the couch and like I could see like in retrospect, there were a couple of times he was just basically like looking at me going, your nails are pretty.
And then like he was like, he always puts holes in my hands and puts it on my knee when we're sitting on the couch together. He was doing it and I was like, OK, and I put this arm around me. I'm like, that's kind of weird. It's like he's going to drop a life insurance policy at that moment.
That's the arm around you is like, hey, we need to get life insurance. Yeah, I wasn't thinking anything of it. And like we're looking at some Legos that his son wanted to buy. And he goes, oh, wait, come on, I'm scrolling on my phone.
And he goes, what about this one? And he puts the ring right in front of my face and like, oh, and then he says, will you marry me? And I'm like, I swear to God, boogie for like two minutes. I just stood there in absolute shock.
I could not talk. I could like, there's a picture his mom took of me like when he put the ring in front of my face and the look at my face is just basically deer in fucking headlights. And to the point, his mom's even like, honey, get kind of half a give, an answer. Yeah, like for like two minutes.
And then he goes and then like he takes his arm out from around me and then he like kind of kneels in front of me goes, what, you want me to get down to one knee? And I'm just like, I kind of like shook my head like, no. And then I finally realized, OK, yeah, you can speak, you know? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, OK, OK, OK.
Oh, it's a very romantic Christmas story. And you know what the first thought that came to my mind was when I was thinking about if he was going to propose on Christmas, I'm going to need extra lube. No, that's that's what your first thought. Fun fact, folks, OK, put this one, scroll this around to the back of your brain.
In most states and most countries, if you get an engagement ring, it is considered a promise of marriage. Right. And if you break up, the person who gave you said ring has to write to ask for a fact, there are people up on to court over rings because they're very expensive. However, if an engagement ring is given on a birthday or a holiday Valentine's Day, Christmas, New Year's, whatever, it is considered a gift.
And the person receiving it does not have to give it back if you break up. OK, so the only thought that's going with my head is he can't propose a Christmas because then if we break up, I don't have to give him the ring back. And my therapist even said, you're sick. That's what you're worried about.
That you are a fucking twisted that now that we were both raised in Jewish households. And that is I'm just saying you're treading on some stereotype there that I'm treading on the fact that it's pretty much law in every state in the US, I don't know what other countries but considered a promise of marriage. And if the marriage doesn't happen, I'm going to get the ring back and now now now he was committed. That's what he was committed.
He said I'm committed. Yes. Wow. Well, that's it.
Hang on. Before we proceed further, I just want to say one thing and you're going to let me do it because I'm going to put the show up. You don't let me. So Jesus Christ.
Yes. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And I'm probably going to get a little emotional, but this is my last converted podcast in this apartment.
I am literally surrounded by piles of boxes and I am closing on my house with Friday on Friday with Donis. And this man right here for all five years, I have been in this apartment pretty much has kept me sane. Has been there through lots of heartaches and headaches and screaming at me. Reality.
I don't want to listen to cheer. Are you talking about Donis or me? I'm talking about you. Oh, I don't know.
You're just okay. I'm just I haven't dating Donis five years. I don't know time. I'm fucking homeless.
Jesus. No, but just I'm sorry. Sorry to me. You're fine.
It's just you were the person who told me that I need to be okay with being alone. And I worked on that. And I got to the point where I started to be okay with being alone. But now I'm not going to be alone.
And you have been such an amazing friend. Okay. All this. I really want to thank you for helping me get to this point because you and my kinky drive and my few good friends that have really just supported me over the last five years I've lived through this God for sake and apartment.
I'm finally getting a lot of things that I wanted in life. Hell, my life is not perfect, but you know, it's in a really damn good place. You're part of the reason why. So I you're an amazing person and you've done a lot of work.
I mean, the people on the outside and that support is important. And of course, we have a show based on support and that it is important to to be there for your friends and to support them through all their changes and kick their ass when they need it. But none of that means anything unless the person is willing to do the work and you've done the work. You did the therapy.
You did the self evaluation. You pushed your boundaries. You pushed your boundaries in playing and finding doc and and and started really pushing some things about you that gave you the position to relax away from what you were programmed on that it has to be this way. It has to be this way.
And then when you discover that there are other options, you were able to then see more of the world around you and that gave you the ability to relax away from that and find the relationships that do work for you and to find people that you can connect with on different levels. And Donis was a great find. And he's someone that's been very loyal to you and very into you and and and so it's you know, it's just it's a great and I know we're getting super mushy. I know it's sort of talking about your dick right now.
I just have to say, you know, and I throw the anal in there because anal, you know, people love anal and you're going to be doing a lot of it. And because now he's going to be living there and it could just be like random, get over here for anal, you know, so prepared, you know, and I'm and I'm frequently and but more than that, it's it is just you're going to have a great time developing that relationship together intimately and figuring out who hates each other more and how to deal that and then eventually it ends in divorce. What I mean, just, you know, I just I'm a cynic. And there goes the boogie.
I know I love that's the cynic, but this beats my Hannah Montana guitar story, by the way. Oh, come on. We need to tell the folks you show me a picture of it is gorgeous. I I've had a challenge for for two years because, you know, I'm not going to tell the story now, but I bought a Hannah Montana guitar and the challenge is that I'm going to write six country songs on it because it's fucking funny.
It's a fucking 15 year old Hannah Montana guitar. People are selling them all over eBay and stuff because their kids grew up and they got this ugly purple guitar in their fucking living room and they're like, buy it. So I bought one and I tuned it to a G tuning and I'm going to write 10 country songs on it. And that's a challenge.
And so I got it and I went to my dad's on New Year's Day to get it. And it was the first time I had spent any considerable time with my dad in his home. In 15 years because of the craziness with the crazy stepmom that is now full blown dementia. And so she was in the hospital and now she's got a boner for me like she's hot for me now because she doesn't know who I am.
She hated me for 15 years and now she's in love with me when she remembers. But it was crazy, but I spent seven hours with my dad just talking seven fucking hours like two high school kids, you know, eating chocolate and strumming a fucking Hannah Montana guitar. It was a very surreal day and but it was good and maybe not as great as an engagement story. But no, but still this is something you want to go on.
It was big. I've I've thought about, you know, because he's circling the drain. So I'm kind of thinking this was the conversation that, you know, this we could say we had the big about past and relatives in World War II and, you know, all sorts of crazy, you know, old stuff, watch 20 minutes of football, which I never do. It's just, you know, I don't have a TV.
And so it was just a it was a good day. It was a good day to hang out with my pops and just have that moment where we could sit without anybody kicking me out. And until later, because he has a prick, there's no doubt. And he, you know, he's been there and he's like, you know, people think that I should let you stay.
And I'm like, well, I didn't ask to stay. I gotta, I gotta go. I'm going to go play my Hannah Montana guitar in my fucking parking lot. And and he's like, I am a prick and I just I'm not letting you stay.
And I'm like, okay. Yeah, I kind of knew that. Thanks for the refresher course. Thanks for the refresher course.
I'm going to go now and he's all okay. But like he felt guilt, but he didn't. But you know, he's a dick, but I love him. I love him.
He's got a foundry and whether you agree with it or not, it's his boundary. I don't I don't care. I don't want to live with a fucking crusty old man either. But not when I have that 99 Toyota Camry that I call.
Oh, yeah. That loves that baby. But you know what? We got a lot of show to fucking handle.
So why don't we go and get into the love to reach out. Let us up and never stops. We're going to reach out. Let us up.
But at mailbox. Oh, M to the G path girl. Yeah. This was a perverted mailbox to end all perverted mailboxes.
Yes. Like there's nine different nine different shows could be done on so many aspects. Pages of notes, which means this is going to be horrible and jumbled. It's always that way when I'm like, oh, we could talk about this and this and this.
And we'll see. We only have 20 minutes, you know, whatever. So this is from Astrid brand new listener. And I'm going to jump over as much.
Welcome, Astrid and your hub to the perverted podcast family. Very excited to have new listeners. So she says, hi, Camp boogie and Pat girl have totally binged on your podcast this year. I'm super new to the lifestyle and have found your show so incredibly useful, educational and really fucking funny.
The first episode she listened to was when one of the times when our readers sent in their fantasies for us. I had to pull over my car when the humans sent to P. Came up. Brilliant.
So thank you for that. I am glad that our suffering humiliation and degradation Astrid could give you such joy. That is why we make the big bucks for doing perverted podcast. I'm writing in hopes that you can give me some clarity.
This gets this gets all over the place. My husband and I, my husband is a kinky motherfucker and I adore everything about this man, except for some of his kinks. We have talked about them for the past 15 years, been in therapy, explored, negotiated, even sent him to a sex worker for his diaper fetish. Okay.
So this is, we know because it's, it's a thing that is a normal fetish. It's a, it's a niche fetish, but it is a fetish and they have that fetish, but it is definitely one that squicks. It's low percentage, even in the King community. So it's, it's not everybody's fetish.
Uh, last year he asked if we could go to a dungeon and make friends with people in the scene that he was not able to, you know, she wasn't able to provide that for him. So he wanted to go and do that. And she was an adamant, no, we are not poly. We are a hundred percent monogamous.
I didn't want to share my husband in such an intimate way. Key kinks, ABDL, which is adult baby, little space diapers, cross dressing. He told me as a profile on FET life and she made her own profile, uh, to see what the fuck FET life was and was devastated. Obsessable.
A cesspool that is FET life, which we'll get into in a little bit. Long story short, our marriage started falling apart. All while our own kinky sex life was really amping up. She was able to get into some of the stuff he was wanting outside of diapers, very clear no on diapers from this person, which she is entitled to femdom stuff, humiliation, degradation, flogging and some cross dressing.
But it always came back to the diapers. I did not want him making friends outside our marriage to explore that because she believes it's very intimate, uh, which it is. I was happy. Now go with this.
I was happy to pay a sex worker for that as it felt transactional. So she was able to make her headspace around that because it's a sex worker, which some people are very able to do because it's transactional. There's no threat to the relationship in that he really hated that experience, which I will get into later. It all came to a head last year when they thought they were going to divorce over this, which is bonkers because the rest of their marriage is so solid.
He deleted his pet life, said he wasn't going to go to the dungeon. Their marriage was more important to that than that. King. Good.
Okay. So we continue to explore King and she opened up to his little side once again, diapers are hard. No, but gave him space to support those needs and making him bats, snuggling, nursing, tucking him in and putting him to bed. And he could get his diaper after I left and have his time, which I think is a great compromise, doing the best you can to accommodate and compromise while still being able to have your limit.
I even went to a dungeon and it was truly shocked by how not does the word plus mean like gross out or stressed out? I don't, I've seen the word before. I didn't look it up. I think plus just basically means like extra like, Oh, I thought it was going to be this everybody's going to be having sex and, you know, just every, every bad thought that she would have thought it was going to happen.
Actually didn't. Okay, good. I had no idea that everything was so negotiated, so inclusive, respectful, boundary centered. And like she felt like she was at a school meeting.
The EIB, I don't know what that means. Department of entering Islam, but fucking I don't know. I was floored. I don't think that's what you would do at a school meeting, but I digress.
I was floored and relieved to see that I was not competing with this at all. It felt great. We've been several times together, played. He's even gone on his own for some little's nights.
So she is opening up to him being able to see what it was and go. That's wonderful. But he wants to open a FET life account. This is the thing she's now stuck on.
Guys, I fucking hate that site. Which is as many people cracks me up. I understand that it's a social network and that's how people find community. But all I see are buttholes, fists, naked bodies, hardcore BDSM scene.
He wants a way to meet people and I just feel nothing but threatened, turned off and jealous. All I see there is sex. Yeah. Am I wrong to not want him on that website?
That was the question after all of that. After all of that insanity and going through, she's being able to find some things about her sticking is FET life, which I just think is amazingly funny and like you've done a lot of work to be and this is your help. Thank you, Asteroid, whatever. So so much to unpack.
Oh, yeah. The FET life thing to me is like not even that big of a deal, but just wow. Look at all of this work that they've done and how close they came. And so I think the first thing they should do, and I'll let you get to it, but I think the first thing that they should do is celebrate the work that they put into this relationship on this issue, which was a very big deal to him and a very big deal for her to figure out how to understand it, did the things that she was supposed to do and that she's still doing, investigating, negotiating, whatever.
Just I think we're off to a really good start on this one. So I will let you go. Yeah. Yeah.
I really want to applaud. Thank you for, you know, trusting us and sharing all this with us. It really doesn't mean a lot. And I really want to applaud you for taking that huge step and going to the dungeon and seeing what it's truly about.
You have a lot of preconceived notions and instead of choosing to believe them, like most people do, you actually investigated them. And it's a huge, huge part. Like he said, a working on your relationship with your husband and accepting that there's certain needs he'd like you to meet. And even though they're out of your comfort zone, you're at least trying to get educated and dedicated to making that relationship work.
So that is a huge part. And that just shows that dedication you got to each other. I completely understand your point that you wish that there was something else besides FET life. So do I.
It would make things so much easier in our kinky lives. If there are multiple websites that we could choose from, like Facebook, Instagram, whatever. But for right now, we just have FET life and maybe one or two other very, very small websites. More sketchy.
Yeah. Yeah. Hella sketchy. FET life, believe it or not, is one of the least sketchy of other websites.
The most note. Yeah. And when I first started logging onto FET life, I agree it was just a barrage of unwanted dick pics and kinks I wasn't interested in. Or people that personally repulsed me even though I, you know, other people will be OK.
FET life, you have to see what it is for. Like you said, it's about finding new kinks, connecting with people, finding community. It is not a dating site. It was never built to be a dating site.
It's also kind of morphed into a website where people who want personal attention for their bodies, for whatever personal reasons, or even if they have a sex worker side to them where they have an only fans or something that they do personally, that they can draw attention to their business. And if you want to see less of that, honestly, just don't wander into kinky and popular because quite honestly, those are the post step low up. You can just go to your regular activity list and whatever is going to be any friends you're with, you're going to see them. You don't even have to see any of that.
If you don't follow any of your friends, I have plenty of friends that I follow and their activity pops up and I'll comment on it. I'll just roll by or whatever. And there's other people who will sit there and like on hundreds and hundreds of hot girls photos, people I know. And just I had to not you.
I had to unfollow them because it's just I can't look at 50 comments of hot, smoking, fire, much stunning. Exactly. So there's people you could choose to follow and I'll call what I would suggest to kind of quell your jealousy and your fears about this. Why don't you make a joint profile?
I have a really good friend, part of our kinky tribe. They are a couple. They have a couple profile that basically says we are a couple, explains a little about them. And basically, if you want to get to know us because they really don't play separate, here's their information.
And just for even for event purposes, they have their life name with a number after it. And basically it literally says in that profile, this is the profile that we have for just event registration only. And if you want to know more about us, go to our regular event. I can understand your jealousy and it's scary and it's unknown.
But I think he's really trying to be transparent with you. And please, please, please understand that's a huge step for him. Because so many people start exploring kinks and their partner shy away from it. And they start doing it on the down low.
They start doing it and that leads to very dangerous roads in your marriage. Yeah, because now you're lying and being deceptive. Exactly. And this way, you can log in and even see, you know, I got three random messages this weekend from three guys who obviously did not read my profile that I'm in a very happily committed relationship and I am not looking for any other play partners or partners at this time.
And I have a small little can comment that basically says, hi, you didn't read my profile. I'm not looking for anything. Thank you very much. And if you get it off, just guess what?
They get blocked. And that's it. So it's that life. Yes, it is accessible.
And if you sit that you can go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole of pictures of stuff you're never interested in. But maybe it's something you guys can explore together and that would help, you know, ease things in and keep going to that dungeon, keep making those kinky friends because there may be somebody that you're comfortable with saying, Hey, he's interested in AVDL, you're interested in AVDL. You know, even if you don't want to watch a scene, you could at least be in the same general vicinity. There's ways.
Thank you for doing the work and just keep doing it. You'll hopefully find a compromise somewhere that you're all both comfortable. I'm going to go back to the sex worker for a minute because this is a big problem. This happens a lot when, you know, I don't know exactly what he hated about that situation.
But this is something that she's worked out in her head that she will allow this with a sex worker that she can pay because it's transactional. It's so often that you just got a shitty sex worker that does not know kink that does not know this kink. There's a lot of people, there's a lot of sex workers that are like, I don't give a fuck, I'll change some idiots diaper, but that's not their kink. They don't know it.
They don't understand it. So they can give you a very negative experience where you have people that are professional mommies, professional daddies that this is not just what they do as a sex worker or whatever adult worker. It is also their kink. So they understand the nature of that kink.
They understand the nurturing that's involved, the vulnerability that's involved. They understand that. So before you completely give up, if you are like, I don't want my husband playing with anybody else, that's your fucking right in that relationship. Yes.
You can say, absolutely no. This is my, you deserve your limits just like anybody else. Exactly. And if all of these other things that you're doing do not satiate his obsession with having to have diaper play, then that's on him to deal with.
He's got to deal with that. If that kink is so strong that he's willing to give up the marriage to have that kink, then that's what it is. But if if your boundary, he should not be pushing you and I don't know, I'm getting kind of out of, you know, I'm jumping around. So he needs to be able to respect the fact that you've done a lot of work as described.
But once again, we're only going by an email. We don't know all the, you know, who knows who's psycho, right? Both psycho, nobody's psycho, whatever. I'm, we're taking this at face value and at face value, you've done a lot of work and you've been on a lot of things and you've grown a lot.
And so it's important to go, well, what's in this for you? What is he doing for you? What is he making your life and your kink and your things better? Is this an equal thing or are you just constantly bending over to make him happy?
Yeah. Going back to the sex worker, I would say if that is your limit and you're like, I don't want anybody other than a sex worker that I feel comfortable with, changing your diaper, then goddamn it, find a better sex worker. Find somebody that you can connect with that. It can be transactional that he can feel good about that understands the dynamic of that kink and you will have a much better success because a lot of people go and they go, oh, well, for the same exact reasons, whether it's a three, you know, anything that they do that's a kink, there's a lot of bad sex workers out there that are just doing it for the money.
And, you know, there's a lot of fake fake femdoms. There's a lot of fake dominance. There's a lot of bad submissives that they're like, well, I can do this. I kind of know the script, but they're not into it.
That's not their thing. So that might be why that went so bad. So re-explore that if that's your personal limit, the, the gelat, you know, the jealousy thing, you're not obligated to not be jealous. Of course.
That shows you're not obligated to work on anything that you don't want to work on. You have obviously done great work on dealing with your jealousy, if that life and the nudity and all of that stuff that's on there, which annoys the fuck out of me. I don't want this shit phone up on my feed. You know, but that's part of it.
I'm going to go with you on the fact that you should do this together and then just put up big pictures. Obviously, if you're doing this together, it's going to be so he can meet more people in the, in the diaper community. So obviously you're going to put up some pictures of diapers and things like that. You don't have to put face pics.
Don't put anything obviously sexual be very strategic on what you put up because if he's trying to meet people, you can't have no picture because no one's going to trust him. He's going to look like a creeper. So there does have to be some interaction in that site because you're trying to let people know, Hey, we are a couple. I'm interested in helping my husband find people to relate to because this is not my tank.
You can be very honest in it. Be very vague. You don't have to put your location. You don't have to put all of those things.
But that is the way that you find those events and you explore the events and they're not all created equal. You were very fortunate to find one that did work and you saw what we hope the different communities in the life are, which is about respect and consent and negotiation and personal boundaries. We hope that not every party is going to be like that. Not every month is going to be like that, but you're doing the work.
You're really doing the work. Keep progressing with that. And keep celebrating those little landmarks and remember that you guys are doing things very differently than 15 years ago. Yes.
Yes. And it may even be, I'm not sure what kind of therapy you've gone to, but my personal therapist is King Polly and LGBTQ friendly. So I can have an over conversation about vampire gloves and doing scenes, whatever. And there's even times that she's even while during sessions.
She'd be like, by the way, I have a client. She won't give me names or anything, but she's like, I have somebody who's interested in such and such. Could you give me a reference and I can reference it. So it may be that you may want to go back to a more kink focused therapist to actually say, this is an issue we're struggling with.
Can you help us come to a compromise or at least if we can't come to a compromise, understand each other. And as far as the sex worker thing is concerned, even take the sex out of it, there are some people that take care of bedbound patients, dairy occupations, you know, and it's just you have to have a calling for it. You know, there are people that will wipe your butt because they're a nurse assistant and that's what they do because they're in money. And there are people that truly care about their patients.
So it's the same way about a sex worker. They may truly care about their clients because they want to do what's for their wellbeing and what's going to make them happy. But at the same time, there's a very firm line there about, I care about you during that scene, but afterwards I'm turning you back over to your partner. Yeah.
You know what I mean? The point. Yeah, it's that life is is what we got to deal with. And you just got to have to try to make the best of it on follow the people that you don't want to see their pictures 24 seven.
Don't add friends. Just don't add any friends. Well, if you don't have friends, you're nothing's going to show up in your feed. Well, if you if you have the friends, you don't have to follow them.
You know what I mean? Because if you know, if there's somebody you want to unfollow, I have somebody that I'm friends with, I don't see his hundreds of posts of hot, hot, hot on pictures. So but if I want to check on him, then I click on his profile. Oh, that's what he's up to.
Okay, cool. I would say if anything at the friends, because then you may find out about more events, you may find out about other things you guys are interested in or something you might want to explore together. But you know, just keep doing the work. You guys are doing awesome.
It's a very hard thing to open up your marriage to this possibility because there are just some people that say, you have a fetish? No, I'm not interested in it. Fuck that. Shut it off.
And that reads resentment. That reads so much resentment in a relationship. Keep doing that work. You guys are doing awesome.
You guys are really, really doing good. Just keep doing that hard work. Listen, this would be a good time to circle all the way back to the beginning and give a little PSA. This is why you negotiate your kinks before committing to a major relationship if you are aware of them.
This is true. This is why you do not hide your kinks and fetishes because you're afraid the other person will reject you because if they do reject you, now you're in a marriage. Yeah. You know, yeah, negotiate in this case, in this case, they're making it work as best as they can.
They're doing the work, but in most cases, this will end a relationship. People come out as kinky, crossdressers, fetishes, all of these things. And then they wait till three, four years and they say, by the way, I've always been this way and whatever. And that is not cool.
That is like to that is not cool to do to a partner. Always do your best. And I understand there's a high rejection rate, especially with something that's a niche fetish. Right.
That's a very niche fetish. It's there's a lot of rejection, but ultimately, you know, you go through less problems when you do not to be unevenly yoked. You ever heard that term? No.
It's a biblical term. Do not be unevenly leot. Like don't marry an on Christian, but I always thought it meant eggs. I always thought it was like, don't be unevenly.
What does that mean? No, it's the yolk. Go with me on this. This is cool.
You can make it kinky if you want. The yolk is when you are farming. The yolk is the thing that holds the two bowls or the two horses together while you plow a field. So it's the bar between them.
That's called the yolk. Right. And so if you put two mismatched fucking horses and one's really strong and the other's weak, you're fucking going to make shitty lines when you plow a field. Cause one's going to be like, I'm really strong and the other's like, ah, it's just going to fucking get all squiggly.
Yeah. So you want them to be evenly yoked. Yes. That that the yolk, I swear to God, I think this is right.
I thought about it this morning for the first time because I was thinking about this. They're getting there. They're getting there. So do your best.
If you are unevenly yoked to fucking put weights on the stronger horse and slow its ass down or put a giant fucking butt plug in it. I don't know. Ashrid, we love you. Thank you for sharing with us.
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That's literally on a generator right now. Like I can hear the generator running the Verizon cell phone tower outside that we rely on. So it's not very consistent. We I'm glad you didn't burn a life and neither have I, but it is smokey and it was windy and chaos.
But so so let's just get into our lovely topic. We are alive. Our our genitals are your genitals are still in place, right? Oh, yes, they are very much active and in place.
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They're at the top name of sticky. So the articles entitled Only Plans Influencer, Lily Phillips breaks down in tears after sleeping with a hundred men in one day. She's surprised. Yeah, surprise.
After offering her male fans a chance to sleep with her in the 14 hours that she says, it is not for the week. The whole affair, like I said, was about 14 hours, which each man getting about five minutes with her after the whole thing was over. She had to take some time alone to cry. The whole thing being way more intense than expected.
She admits to feeling the pressure to perform and give each participant a good time. She would even take the time with each one to try and cater to positions and such that they would most enjoy. She found herself even throughout the performance, losing herself and disassociating it from time to time. She would like find a routine and kind of go with that afterwards.
She found herself feeling more tired than sore or in pain. That's what she how she described like the her whole vaginal area. But even throughout it all, she plans on doing it again this time, hitting four digits next month. You know, that is that is a commitment.
That's a commitment to penis right there, Enigma. And I mean, I saw this and you know, the title is to say, because it's not like she's like, Oh, this was horrible. And you know, I'm never going to do this again. No, this was a warm up.
Yeah. She's like, OK, well, I'll do 100 this time, but we're going to go for a thousand at some point, which, you know, logistically that you know, you have bucket list goals. You know, I've had three some's and four some's and a five some and, you know, I that was enough to not cry at the end for me. So I understand the whole thing about wanting to do that.
But it's kind of like any intensity that's prolonged for that many hours. Yeah, is going to have possible strange effects. Oh, you know, no matter how much your heads in the game, you're like, yeah, fuck, yeah, dude, I'm going to fuck 100 chicks at the end of that. That, you know, and this is why we negotiate because you can think this is great, you know, because before you get into it, you have this whole goal and you're very ambitious on the sex goal.
But your sexual functions is a that's a that's a that's biology biology. Oh, wow. The fires, the smoke has definitely started to affect my brain scraping ash off my car. Go.
Why don't you go ahead and go? Because I have a lot of thoughts on this. I mean, hats off hats off for getting through 100. Yeah, that's often and going for four digits.
I actually just looked it up and currently the world record as 919 people in a day. So she's going for four digits. She's going for just going for a world record there. Every three seconds.
Pretty much like it would have to be from like midnight to midnight. And then you're just you're just taking maybe breaks or meals and that's about it. But yeah, no, like I was like you were talking about how like this is the warm up and and any sort of thing. Like I remember that like, you know, the first time I was like I was doing butt stuff like I got really like oversensitive and like a few like after after too long.
So like I can understand like if you're trying to get into this thing and there's probably a point where like maybe it hurt or maybe it's uncomfortable. But then like she said, like she started getting into routine, like kind of disassociating with it, making it more like a job. And not to sound too commutating, but this is also very much like in line with how a lot of things are happening right now where it's like people are trying to do stuff for for the content and for the of it. Not for the intimacy or the, you know, the the the connection.
No, not at all. And like I remember there was an interview with another with a foreign star and they were talking about the shit that she's done and she's done like a lot of fetish work. And so she was like, yeah, I know I just call him like stupid human tricks. Like being able to fit like three dongs in one hole or whatever.
And like, I mean, we see this outside of the sex world too. This is the people who do like free climbing on top of a skyscraper or they jump out of an airplane with like maybe a parachute or maybe the idea is for them to like pair a sail into the ocean or some shit. Like we see these stupid human tricks all the time. This one just happens to be sex.
But like, I think I think there's definitely something like oddly admirable about it to be like trying to like push the human body to to a level that you're not that we're not used to or that's not common. But at the same time, like I have to ask why like why would you do something to this body to your body that isn't necessarily good for you? I don't know. I know it's ego and it's ego and vanity.
And in this case, kind of like amongst the adult community, it's bragging rights. It's what the issue is is that once again, you know, live your dream, dude. If this is the thing that makes you happy to achieve these goals, it's the same. Like you said, as sports as anything where there's a challenge that you do things that have high risk or you can get injured or you know, something can go wrong.
You know, it's risk aware to do these challenge to be the champions of something. But it is important to note and which she experienced some of this when you start making your sexuality more competitive than seeking intimacy and connection, which is biological there. I use the word correctly. Then don't be surprised that you get overwhelmed.
That's and go back to negotiation. This is why you talk about these things in advance. What happens when when this great achievement that we're trying to do somehow goes wrong and I become very overwhelmed and emotional because the sexual mechanisms that are in place release hormones and people have smells and sense and there's a connection between you and your mate for procreation, blah, blah, blah, evolution, you know, biology. So if you're going to try to challenge that and to be like, no, I'm going to do it with, you know, a whole bunch of people, then that's your brain trying your brain.
Part of your brain doesn't understand that this is some sort of challenge. It still thinks that you're trying to procreate and mate. So when you're fucking with that by, you know, using ambition from another part of your brain, it's very likely that you're going to get overwhelmed, especially once you start to get tired. And that's what you start seeing in these things with these big gangbangs or these marathon people that run these, you know, giant things is that once you start losing that motivation for the challenge, because you're now physically really hurt by it, you know, all sorts of things can happen.
Yeah, no, and it's like it's it's it's the thing with people who do marathons who do like after you've been like running for five miles and you still have five more to go or whatever the thing is like your body goes through the strain that like it's really hard to like really like, I don't know, focus on your health or focus on yourself and you're just trying to focus on the next person on the next person to get to the end. And I mean, I mean, she's already disassociating with a hundred like a thousand guys. Like that's going to get like, she's definitely need to take like a psych break after that. Like a good, I don't know.
It's like, we see this a lot for people who are trying to do edge play, they're bringing back to kink, like trying to do edge plays and trying to get into like they see something on 50 shades of bullshit or now baby girl. And they're like, oh, I can definitely do that. But like a lot of this, like a lot of the more intense BDSM stuff, a lot of the more intense impacts stuff, like people build up to that. So when they see that online and they think that like, oh, they're body can do that right away, then they're unpleasantly surprised when they find out that that's not how that works.
Well, it also comes down to the fact that kind of what you're describing, like with masochists and you know, they're like, oh, I can take the most cane strikes or I can get the most of this or I can, you know, once again, it is no longer about intimacy and connection. It is about your ego. It's really just about your ego at that point that I have to prove something externally to the world around me to that part of myself that is external. I have to prove something to myself so that way I can post my pictures on fen lives to show all of my marks and everything.
And then I get that kind of social adulation. I don't even know if that's the correct word smoke. Sorry. That external validation, that's the word I was looking for.
And it's like, it's no longer about the intimacy or the connection, which is one of the things that it's like, yeah, it's fun to do your stupid people tricks. But at some point, if everything you do is external, then you're just living for vanity. You're not even living for that connection. And as we get more detached and detached and we get more competitive and more people are interested in their TikTok profile or getting their views or getting their social validation, all of a sudden people are feeling more empty, more disassociated, more lost because, well, yeah, you're going for external validation rather than internal connection and intimacy.
And so this is, we've seen this more and more as we detach more and more with our gadgets and, you know, and we don't know how to talk to people anymore. We don't know how to communicate. Everything's done in a text. So it's like, that's not how the body works.
That's not how evolution developed for us to become these machines that just go, oh, this is cool. Give me a dopamine rush and move on. It just goes against it challenges the nature. It might be making any sense whatsoever.
No, you are. And like, yeah, we're we're conflating the intimacy with external validation. And like there's definitely been like, I know there are a lot of sex workers who have perfectly wonderful, like romantic and intimate relationships outside of their sex work. But at the same time, like they still talk about how it does change, what they're looking for, does change the kinds of people that they're interested in.
Like, I mean, and sometimes they'll go outside of their interests for their sex work so that they can like keep those separate. Like I know a lot of like I follow one on TikTok, who she has like a relationship with a wonderful woman. But like she also enjoys doing sex work and like doing that work. She doesn't necessarily sexually attracted to the men, but she enjoys doing the work and she enjoys doing having those moments.
So like, I think I don't know what kind of work that Lily Phillips does outside of fucking as many people as possible. But like, I wonder if like, this is just something outside of the norm and she can go back to like her regular stuff after this. But like, I don't I definitely see how this is going to probably change how she approaches how she does stuff just like how I like I said, like I get a little oversensitive when I'm doing some but stuff. So like, I approached like the day of like I'm kind of like sucking myself up so that I'm more prepared for what's going to happen.
Sure. I think that preparation is really important if you're going to go and start taking challenges. And even if you're just pushing, even if you are connecting with a partner and you're talking through things and you're preparing for, you know, you're seeing together, I think it's important to just know that the more prepared you are psychologically, then when something does go wrong or you get overwhelmed, you can take the break that you need that you can that you can also know when to call it quits. Yeah, because sometimes you're, you know, you go into it, especially when you're dealing with like the humiliation of being used by a lot of people.
It's hot for the first two hours, you know. And then all of a sudden you're like, you know, your brain starts talking to all these people just are just being used, you know. So there's, I don't know, there's so much I was thinking when I was seeing this where, of course, you know, the ego part of me is like, yeah, I wish I could do that, you know, and fuck a hundred chicks at the same time. But then you think about it and you go, other than vanity, what's really the purpose of that?
Because I'm not having any valid connection with anybody at that point. I mean, maybe for the first, you know, first couple hours, you know, your energy's up and you're enjoying that multiplicity. But why am I using words that I've never used before? I mean, but also the, I think there is a deeper thing here.
Like, I definitely have fantasy is about like the whole free you staying and being like in the middle of middle of things. And like you talk about people that a lot of it has to do, they enjoy having that attention. They enjoy having a lot of that attention on them. And so like, that's definitely part of it.
Definitely a big part of it. But it's, I know, if any of our listeners are looking to get into like the more intense, more involved kinks, like it's definitely something to keep in mind that like it's, it's whether smaller, smaller, big event, like it's still gonna probably affect how you approach either kink or sex or relationships. The relationships. Yeah.
Yeah, because, because these things do mix with our minds. Like, like a really intense scene is going to change fuck with your brain chemistry. That's why that's why drop happens. Like she was talking about crying afterwards.
She was probably having a really intense drop because she just fucked 100 guys in a day. So yeah, no, it's definitely something to keep in mind when you're getting into the more intense, more like full full body stuff where you may not, I don't know, I don't know, you may not have control, but like you may lose a little bit of control of yourself because you get into that disassociation and you're wanting to please, but maybe you're, you have a faster limit and you don't know how to verbalize that as well because maybe you just haven't had that practice. Yeah, don't fuck up your sex life by turning it into a TikTok video. It's kind of like my, my, my, my, my, my, it's, it's because there's some things and once again, I do realize that we are sounding kurmajini and, which is another word I never use, but because it's like I'm protective of that because I see how we're going into that and once again, not saying it's not fun and a great challenge and we have our stupid human tricks and we try those things, but you really should be protective of intimacy because once you lose that, how do you have a regular relationship again?
How do you, how do you move forward? You just like you said, it is going to change your outlook and how you view that and if, if that's the road that you want to go, then you have to look, is there a healthy reason for this or a negative reason because obviously we've had sexual experiences that are negative because we're just trying to get away from some other experience or hide our feelings just like anything with drugs or food or gambling, you know, any of the compulsions or addictions, you know, that there's a reason why and if it's fun and you're like, oh, it's just a big challenge, I've always wanted to do it and I think it's going to be fun and okay, well then that's fine, but is it that you're really just trying to prove that you don't have to connect to people anymore or that you can be fine just, you know, having no connection whatsoever? I don't know. No, your other, your other, I was like, you'll have people who like to get out of a relationship and so maybe the relationship was not sexually satisfying or whatever and so to kind of prove the point that there's still a sexual being, they're going to go out of their way to go fuck as many people as possible or they're going to go have risky, risky or sex because, because of, because of all of that so like, yeah, I think that's, that's an important distinction when, where it's like, yes, you're going through something mentally but that doesn't mean you need to go off the defensive group of points.
I agree. I don't think I've looked, I think at this point in all of the billions of discussions that we've had on perverted podcast, I don't think I've ever looked at a hundred dude gangbang the same. I don't think I've ever looked at it with this much, well, what's really going on here? You know, and, and, you know, other than the fun, you know, I don't watch those videos because I just don't like that many dicks.
But, um, but, but, you know, like I said, I'm positive hats off. If that's a healthy challenge and it's fun and it's something that's empowering you, then I'm all into that. But, but it also did make me think, wow, is this really what we're, we believe sex is now that it's just this thing that should be used as a, I don't know, maybe I'm just an old shitty romantic, no, I'm not. What the hell am I talking about?
There's so much stuff. You like, yeah, you like to shove your dick in people's butts while they sleep. Like you're, you're not a. That is true.
I do like to do that. I do. I am. I am that kind of guy.