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EPISODE · Nov 11, 2025 · 40 MIN

42: A Journey with Heart Openers

from We Didn't Turn Out OK with Jennie Monness · host Jennie Monness

This episode is one that I have been waiting to release, because it introduces one of the the most meaningful experience I've ever had. Last spring, I experienced a guided psychedelic journey with James Gangemi and Zev Eisenberg, the couple behind Heart Openers. They are not only gifted guides individually, but their partnership, the way they hold space together, and the energy they bring as a couple is truly remarkable. You feel safe, supported, and seen in a way I can only describe as being "held." That safety became the foundation for the most transformative experience I've ever had. I wanted this episode to talk about the neuroplasticity that occurs on a "journey" and the huge rewiring opportunity it gives us in the way we think. I also wanted it to help clarify the many misnomers around a psychedelic journey. Every "journey" is different and everyone experiences them differently. This journey was not ayahuasca. It didn't feel like I was out of control, I didn't feel sick, it felt gentle, grounding and deep. It was about sitting with myself, not escaping. Seeing what's been inside all along with the support of plant medicines and with guides who knew exactly how to hold the emotional and spiritual container for that to happen. In this episode you'll be introduced to the process, learn the purpose of it all and really get a glimpse into how special Zev and James are. It feels like the start of so much more that really touches on the truest expression of what this podcast has always been about: understanding where we "didn't turn out OK" and discovering what becomes possible when we finally turn toward those areas with understanding and love. James and Zev are extraordinary guides, an extraordinary couple and extraordinary humans. I'm so honored and excited to share this conversation - and this part of my story - with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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