42 • Amsterdam 1967 (2/5) • Talk 2: Where There Is Pleasure There Is the Shadow of Pain

Krishnamurti: One Sees or Understands Only When the Mind Is Quiet Amsterdam 1967, Public Meetings 2/5: Where There Is Pleasure There Is the Shadow of Pain The whole movement of living, which is relationship, is a movement in action.  What is consciousness? When do you say, ‘I am conscious, I am aware, I am attentive’? Is there actually a division between the conscious and the unconscious, or it is a total movement, operating all the time?  The mind that pursues pleasure must inevitably invite its opposite, which is pain. The two go together; they are not separate.  You cannot see totally when you are making effort.  Q: If you love your own child, your attention to your child is fairly complete, but if you are a teacher you cannot give attention to all the students. - The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust. Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week. Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’ Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit:   Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.org The Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.uk Brockwood Park School: brockwood.org.uk Newsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletter Donations: kfoundation.org/donate Get in touch at [email protected] Please consider leaving a review, which helps the visibility of the podcast.