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EPISODE · Mar 30, 2026 · 48 MIN

421: Why No Mixed-Gender Sunday School Presidencies? A Gender Equality Slippery-Slope Speculation

from Latter Day Struggles · host Valerie Hamaker

Send us a Positive Review!In this follow up episode on recent LDS news that women are now allowed to serve in Sunday School presidencies, Val & Nathan pivot to the peculiar part of the announcement prohibiting no "mixed-gender" presidencies and share the outcome of their exploration of this odd move.  Upon deeper reflection, the move seems less about worries about slippery slopes towards sexual iniquity and possibly more about preserving another kind of slippery slope--the one that disrupts what some feel is the "natural order of the universe".  If a female formally presides over a male in one realm of the LDS church, what could this possibly lead to?  Listen in as we propose that moves of this nature is proof that ultimately an all male priesthood must be surrendered...even if excruciatingly slowly...if the LDS church is going to survive in the long run.  Timestamps:00:00 Welcome and Context 02:09 Reading the New Policy 02:46 First Reactions and Jokes 04:54 Why Mixed Gender Feels Weird 5:51 Relief Society President and Bishop — Mixed Gender Already Exists08:21 Loyalist Perspective Brainstorm 09:32 Women Under Men in Leadership 11:09 Nathan's BYU Co-Mission Leader Experience13:33 Men Under Women and Shame 15:53 Two Existential Questions the Church Dodged17:14 Presiding and Priesthood Questions 19:13 Can Women Practice Revelation Without Male Approval?22:49 Priesthood as Human Construct — "All or None of Us Have It"25:12 Keys vs Duties Explained 28:12 Baptism Witnesses — A Case Study in Power Shifts29:47 Power and Control Creep 32:39 Family Proclamation Implications 35:23 Women Leading Faith Journeys at Home37:38 Joseph Smith Gave Women Blessings — Then They Were Taken Back39:25 What Reforms Might Come Next 44:21 Closing Thoughts and FarewellSupport the showJoin Our Healing From Patriarchy Support GroupSupport the showListen, Share, Rate & Review EPISODESFriday Episodes Annual Access $89Friday Episodes Monthly Access $10Valerie’s Support & Processing GroupsGift a ScholarshipDownload Free ResourcesVisit our Website

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