#423 Makai Elías Calles - What Really Happens When You Die?

Zuby is joined by health journalist at the Epoch Times and filmmaker Makai Elías Calles to discuss his new documentary Final Hour, a deep dive into the phenomenon of near-death experiences. Trained as a scientist Makai shares how interviewing people who died and came back forced him to confront cases that shouldn't be scientifically possible, including a Harvard neurosurgeon with an offline neocortex who returned with a fully lucid memory. The conversation covers cross-cultural NDE patterns, the strange choice to come back, why survivors often come back depressed, the concept of vertical perception, whether plants might have memory and much more.Sponsored by:Veritas Wealth Management helps families, business owners, and retirees build real financial freedom through hands-on expert investment guidance. Schedule a call today at https://veritasalaska.comTimestamps:(00:00) Introduction(03:01) The stories that inspired the documentary(05:48) The near-death experience at age seven(06:57) The biggest lesson from making the film(07:17) A scientist's worldview broken(08:09) The Harvard neurosurgeon case(10:00) Do atheists and believers see the same thing?(15:16) Do people choose to come back?(17:18) Why survivors come back depressed(19:08) Vertical perception explained(23:07) Is there evidence beyond materialism?(26:11) Colours you can't describe(28:02) Are there negative near-death experiences?(31:38) Do plants have memory & intelligence?(39:21) The rarest emotion — awe(43:28) Moral beauty explained(45:11) Goodness as a form of beauty(46:40) Where to find the documentary—Follow Makai Elías Calles: https://makailee.com/—Follow Zuby:https://linktr.ee/zubymusicSubscribe to 'Real Talk with Zuby' on Apple Podcasts or Spotify:https://fanlink.tv/zubypodcastSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/real-talk-with-zuby/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy