427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell

from The Talk Show With John Gruber · host Daring Fireball / John Gruber

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and more. (Where by “more” I mean a little baseball and keyboard nerdery.)

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