428: ‘Michigan-Starred Fine Dining’, With Louie Mantia

from The Talk Show With John Gruber · host Daring Fireball / John Gruber

Special guest Louie Mantia joins the show to talk about Liquid Glass, the various OS 26 updates, and the worrisome state of Apple's UI design overall. Also: sandwiches.

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