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EPISODE · May 20, 2026 · 56 MIN

430I_Alain Bertaud, urbanist and Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University

from What is The Future for Cities? · host Fanni Melles

"Nothing really succeeds as planned, but it succeeds on the side of the plan."Are you interested in market-oriented urban development? What do you think about cities as friends? How can we create projections without making them regulations? Interview with Alain Bertaud, urbanist and Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, urban economics and labour markets, planned cities, changing demographics, urban attraction, and many more. Alain Bertaud is a renowned urbanist and Distinguished Visiting Fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, as well as a senior research scholar at the NYU Marron Institute of Urban Management. Author of the influential book Order Without Design: How Markets Shape Cities (2018), he previously served as principal urban planner at the World Bank. His research, often with his wife Marie-Agnès, explores the interplay between urban forms, real estate markets, and regulations. In 2024, he received an honorary doctorate from CEPT University in India.Find out more about Alain through these links:Alain Bertaud on LinkedInAlain Bertaud websiteAlain Bertaud at the Mercator CenterAlain Bertaud at the the Marron Institute of Urban ManagementOrder Without Design: How Markets Shape Cities - book by Alain BertaudIs Thomas Piketty Misreading Balzac? - article by Alain BertaudWhy ‘Casablanca’ Is the Quintessential City Movie - article by Alain BertaudConnected episode you might be interested in:No.409R - The case for economic growth as the path to better human wellbeingNo.410 - Interview with Casey Handmer about the need for urban economic growthNo.420 - Interview with Josh Dorfman about urban economicsNo.429R - Cities as labor markets – The efficiency of large labor markets is the main cause of ever-growing citiesWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WTF4Cities⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or on the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠wtf4cities.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ website where the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shownotes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Descript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ assistance (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠affiliate link⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠).Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lesfm ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Pixabay

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