Oh, Lego path girl. Yeah. Live in the Lego dream. Live in the Lego loca.
Live in the Lego loca. It must be insane to have so many Lego people in your home. There are three and they're slowly converting me. Okay.
I actually bought a Harry Potter night bus and I really wanted to get the Harry Potter chomping book, the monster book that chomps. Yeah. Right. And so now you're sitting there.
Click, click, click, click. No, the good thing is like Lego does like awesome gifts with purchase. So like we've been flipping all the gifts of purchase and putting them back into like a Lego fun. Oh, okay.
So you've been making, you've been doing your eBay flipping thing. Yeah. But Donna's actually a race, a good point. So we're going on our honeymoon starting in the beginning of October.
He's like, you know, that's when the $1000 Lego desktop comes out. I'm like, oh my God, dude, dude, start mapping out your vagina right now. Start saying, all right, this is coming up and how long that's, you know, what? Like a year away or something like that?
No, this October, this October. Okay. So you need this is, okay, let's, let's, let's pervert this. Okay.
Yes. You need to make your pervert map, you know, we pervert map because obviously he's leaning for you to get it for him. So this is what am I getting in exchange? How many vaginal touches am I going to get?
How many angels am I going to get? Oh, yeah. No, believe me. I've already, I already have my plans because there should be a list because dudes need a list that and they, something to work for because if you put it in front of him, if you say, bro, I'm going to buy you a $1000 fucking dollar Lego death star.
There's a grown man we're talking about here. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't, doesn't not matter. You put that goal in front of them and say, fulfill this list.
That's the transaction. That boy will eat your pussy fucking 12 times a week. You'll do it. He'll do it.
Doesn't matter. Top bottom doesn't matter. There's a list. It's transactional.
Oh, I can do like those little charts like I have for little kids. Like every time he spanks my butt, there's like another heart. I can fill in and then like, yeah, you make it sound, you make it sound kind of creepy. But yeah, something like that.
You can give adults gold stars too. Little high. I like getting gold thighs. Well, you can make it the star chart and you can make it.
Yeah, I'm saying I'm a look because we already fucking know, Pat girl. You know, you're getting him the fucking death star. It is officially the most expensive Lego set that is ever coming out today and the most pieces. Yeah.
Yeah, I get it. I get it. And I know enough about him, you're getting the fucking death star. Fucking make it work.
And I know it has secondary value and stuff like that. You know, you keep it and say it'll be worth more than that in, you know, 15 years, but you know, you're getting it. So you better make sure that you're getting it. Forgetting it.
I'm getting the appropriate hanky pinky and spanking for all that. Lay down a list. Yes. And then we get to hear.
Yeah. What else do we do to lay down? We need to lay down a show. Oh, yeah, let's do that.
But make your list. One, two, three, four. We will be legal six life is quite game. Yeah, the joy desire is my key screen.
Coming to join the kinky will to play. Death star for vulva attention. Death star getting some penetration for a death star. Does it increase the value?
Oh, sorry. Hello and welcome to Birdified Cast, the show where we explore the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and the human mind. Recording on Zen Cast aware today, see you have me more hot and bothered than a lonely housewife reading 50 shades of gray and a magic mike screening. I'm half girl.
I am count boogie. Yes, it is still oppressively goddamn hot and waiting on a line. Like a store was just so much fun. But I got my little stuff.
Yeah, you got your stuff done. And now, you know, we're going to get back to it. But I want the listeners to understand that we work with your guys as insanity. Yes.
Over these things. And we got to make it work. We have to make it work for the preferred podcast listeners. So we want the perverted podcast journey to death star.
So as you make your list, just kind of writing this as we go, as you make your list. Every time there is a new event, Donis or Donis got one step closer on his path to the death star. OK, but see, all this stuff that he has in the path to the death star has been like boring, vanilla stuff. Like, gee, he's really been kicking in our eBay business and gee, like I come home and my long days full and like, yeah, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
All right. So we'll kick it by it up. All right. All right.
And we want to hear every gold star. So if there's 20 items, it's fucking $1,000 for a fucking Lego death star. That's got to be at least 20 good kinky things. Well, I'm just saying 50 bucks a thing, you know, 50 bucks a thing and their secondary value.
And you know, you do level. But anal, you know, yeah, yeah, hey, you know, what, if you want to give double for anal? No, I'm still enough from OB and Anthony years ago. They did that sex for Sam's done where they had different couples going around, all different areas of New York City having sex.
And it was like, you know, have sex at a library, five points, sex in a, in a station, 10 points. And like, there was always a two point conversion for anal. So like, you know, sex at a library with, you know, anal sex at a library, I'd seven points, but yes, a two point conversion for anal. Then, then let's do it.
Because, you know, it has been a while since your fooder has been scootered. Yes, yes, yes. So, you know, come on, you know, I mean, I've been on it, you know, I'm hanging out with chicks now. Oh, working.
So have you been talking to more chicks? I mean, I have been well, they're women. They're more, you know, adults. So yes, I don't want to be, you know, it's fucking their chicks were dudes fucking get over it.
OK, women men, whatever. But yeah, I have a couple now then I'm going to be honest, probably not going to end up playing or sleeping with either of these women. But I do. Oh, there's two.
I'll last I heard there was one. For the show, I mean, a kind of embellish and amp up what's really going on here now. One of the online one that I can talk to her last night on the phone. It was really nice to talk to her.
It did sound like a woman. So I was very happy that it wasn't just, you know, a man cat fishing. I was totally expecting like, hi, yeah, it's me. I'm sorry.
I didn't think you would like me if I had a penis. Well, good. And so I talked to her, but then I had this random thing where I'm trying to say yes to things and be helpful. And on Craigslist, there was a lady who said, you know, she had some serious medical issues that she's recovered from.
And she learned all this information. She wants to make a YouTube channel to kind of help people navigate all the stuff, which, you know, that's that's very, what is it? Altruristic or filling up whatever. And so she just needed help learning how to edit and make a channel.
And I'm like, well, I've edited lots and so I just said, you know, she was offering part time money for it or whatever. And I'm like, I don't care about that. You know, it's a good cause. So I emailed her like five months ago and I never heard back and I said, Hey, I do all this stuff.
It sounds like great. What you're doing? I don't really care about the money. I just want to see you, you know, get in there and help people because it feels good and it helps people.
And so she literally like a week ago. She said, Hey, I was going through all sorts of stuff and I just went back before posting the ad to get and I read your response to my ad and I talked around the phone for a couple hours. I've been at her house a few times now, I'll be here with this and she's Australian and she's, you know, she's like, you know, 10 years younger than me, but she's very pretty. And of course I'm like, you know, there's other other types of play, you know, you know, she knows I'm pinky and all the things.
And so I'm not, you know, I'm pretty much saying we're probably going to just be working on getting her channel going. But it's been real fun to do that. And of course being social and going again. So that you meet mainly to other people.
So that's true. So, so either because the one I talk to you on the phone, she's kind of dominant. I mean, she may be switchy. I don't know.
She's relatively new. So I never when somebody presents is kind of like they're looking for a submissive or they have dummy kind of things. I instantly go in kind of as bro. Right.
Cause I don't, I don't need to, I'll convert you. You're you're dominant until you meet my dominance, which is so dominant. That yeah, I don't that fucking game is just a loser game. It's just loser.
It's competitive. It's stupid. So, but once again, I have had dominant female friends that are like, Hey, I want to try things and I like you, you know, we're friends and so I trust you. So let's do some of these things.
And so I've actually played with quite a few female dominance and some of it's been secretly on the down low. And which there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want to fuck up someone's image or whatever and they just wanted to try things and it's worked out very well. But I never assumed that I just kind of just, Hey, I just, you know, I would rather just go in as a bro and be like, we're both doms.
We're both looking for that. Let's support each other with that. And, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then if they say, by the way, I want you to finger my butt hole.
I'm like, on it. I got you, bro. I'm here. I'm here.
I'm here. Brofinger. Brofinger. Brofinger.
Brofinger. It's cool. I'll do me to it. Yeah.
There you do. So has there been any play with you? No, unfortunately not. Kids' schedule has been kind of wacky getting work has been just just fucking hell on earth.
But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully we have some new stuff coming in six to seven weeks, but I'm basically. You said staff. Staff.
I need the right to staff. No, I'm basically going to grab Donnes tonight and go high. Like, actually, before he went to bed last night, like, I normally when I get home, I take my bra off, I keep my shirt on. I kind of like lifted up my shirt and go, hi, remember these?
And he's like, yeah, folks, folks, I'm like, yeah, we need to smack the boobs and do stuff. The boobs, please. So I may be in the lesson later tonight. So nice.
Actually, we are leaving on a trip Saturday morning. We have tickets to Weird Al Yankovic in Charlotte. Oh, that's right. You're going to the Weird Al show.
Oh, it's going to be awesome. It's going to be so much fun. You want to know that place for anal? There's also another member of Proverted Podcast who's also going to Weird Al, but not the same concert.
Creepy's going to Weird Al, too. Creepy got tickets to Weird Al, but they're going to Raleigh. Because I said to him, I said, he goes, what'd you do this weekend? I was like, oh, next week, everyone, I go, wait a minute, we're going to.
And I'm like, wait, what? And he goes, yeah, I'm like, he goes, he had help set. He has a friend that works there. And I'm like, oh, wait, you're going to Raleigh.
Aren't you? Because yeah, I'm like, yeah, we're going to Charlotte. Then that would have been fun. Fucking Weird Al Yankovic, dude.
He's been a legend for a long time, dude. He has just, it's going to be fun. Of course, it's going to be fun. He's great.
It's a fantastic guy. Of course, I hung out with him a couple of times, but because I'm awesome. But that should be a lot of fun. First the infamous booger man.
Yeah, if you hang out with him, I'm sure, sure. Just ask him, do you remember getting a booger man with a song, Eat a Booger? And see his eyes. His reactions.
Yeah, of course, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, probably be like, yeah, yeah, of course, yes, no, no. But he did say that was him and his girlfriend's love song for a number of weeks. So he probably won't remember.
But what a great guy, really fucking awesome guy and and anal. Yes, anal soon. Why don't you prep today? Why don't you prep today?
I can do that after I get to podcast. Why do we make a commitment for that? I'd like to maybe get a not first because I've been in the plants. Yes, get a what?
Get a nap in first. OK, but just commit. OK, come in. I will commit to prepping.
Prep and then say, yo boy, pewter, fuck it. You want that? That's our not. Come on.
There are the tests are that's it. Right there. Right there. You're going in Darth Vader.
It wasn't where that that little baby hold they had to shoot through to kind of that's right. You know, that's it. That's not going to blow up the test start put the laser in that fucking hole right there. And the voice is strong with this one.
The listeners are like, are they done with the start thing? Really? No, no, because the next show we're going to talk about the thing. One.
All right, fuck it. Let's get into the other thing. Should you pet it? Should you pet it?
What's the proper way to get it? You don't want you to be credit. So we have finally committed you to anal prep and no more. This is the this is the anus you're looking for.
This is the heinous. These are the anuses that you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.
Sorry. Yes, whatever. So I'm going to tell you this topic, the first two times I read it, I felt one way. And instantly I was like, Oh, support the bottom.
Yes, this is let's blah, blah, blah. And then I read it a couple of times and I swear to God, I started saying, fuck this bitch. Yeah. Yeah.
So let's get into it once again with it. We're just going by what's written. So we don't know. Because on the one side, of course, we support the bottom and we want to make these connections and communications.
But at the other point, you know, sometimes, yeah, fuck you. So, so here it is. My partner socializing with others during aftercare. That's the top.
So at first you're like, okay, this could be a party party foul. Surely, surely that right off this. This could be the thing. So last night, I was the bottom to a double Dom Impact scene.
Two Dom's two Dom's Dom, number one, important. Dom, number one is my partner who I play with often were both switches. He was in charge of aftercare and was the only one allowed to touch me physically. I don't know if that just means an aftercare or during the scene.
He's the one that gets the finger or what? Dom, number two, my friend, who's a top. He was in charge of amping up the torment by whipping me with the writing crop. So two Dom's two jobs overall.
Overall, it was a pretty intense scene. I was crying, screaming, and I marked up everywhere from it. We did this in a public event. When it came down to aftercare, my partner, her long-term partner, number one, and I were cuddling.
So now I guess Dom, too, has thank you, took his bow and went to just go wherever. But now she's with the partner. He was hugging me and caressing me. We were on a little lounge in a chair that can fit too.
We're both switches. So he invited his Dom to come watch our scene, which he didn't advise prior. Didn't tell her that the Dom was going to watch the scene in a public place. There's a lot of Dom's in this story.
It's true. Lots of Dom's. So we're going to try to stay, you know, stay on top of it. As we're cuddling with Dom, number one, he sees his Dom, because there are switches, has nowhere to sit.
So he moves my phone laying next to him so she can sit directly next to him. Number one thing I don't appreciate. OK, what I'm at this point, I'm still on board. As we're cuddling, he takes his attention off me to join in on a conversation with the two people next to us.
I told him I did not appreciate it and he feels awful. OK, he told me he's seen people socializing during aftercare before, which I have a hard time finding is true as I don't often see this. I think it's going to be my last time playing with him, her long-term partner. Edit.
So she comes back later. I guess a lot of people shared things that we're going to share. Right. Thank you for the replies.
I have talked to him and we're having dinner later. Of course, my feelings are valid and he can't read my mind. Also, he goes to different events and places at this house and there's no tolerance for play interruption. So that's why I felt like it was something.
I didn't need to bring up play interruption. OK, whatever. I'm going to let you go first and then I'll give both and let's just let's just go at it. Yeah, I also was I read it once.
I felt one way. I read it another time. I just skim back through it again before we start the podcast and it's just there's just so many ideas floating through my head. Now, I completely understand that aftercare for the bottom is 100% important.
Someone has to do it. And there's been plenty of times that I've played with people that like I don't do aftercare, but I'm going to find somebody for you and they will find somebody for me. As long as aftercare is is done to the bottom satisfaction and then also even to the top satisfaction. So I understand they're cuddling and you know, all right, maybe inviting the Dom number one Dom over was kind of like, you know, kind of moves good over.
I'm like, yeah, I would get a little annoyed with that also because you're kind of like, hi, we're finishing our scene. Technically, we haven't completed until I'm physically saying, OK, I'm ready to rejoin the rest of the party or the community. So yeah, I can understand her like feeling like just feeling bad about that. But then on top, you know, and I was more bothered with that than like him talking to a couple next to them because case in point, there's been plenty of times I played with Docker donuts and we go to an aftercare room and I'm just, you know, quietly talking with them.
I'm usually either laying on top of them or laying in their lap or whatever. And there's times I'm so spaced out like they're just kind of looking around the room like, you know, doc may see somebody that comes in and it'll very softly go, hey, how you doing? Nice to see you. But you know, I can understand that part of it because especially if you're submissive, I understand the cuddle part, I understand the aftercare part.
But if you're just talk to somebody next to them and just be, you know, and they're talking about, you know, death and politics. Okay, yeah, not really appropriate. But if they're just basically like, yeah, we're good to see you. I'm seeing you know, well, that I'm okay with but inviting that inviting dumb number one's dumb over.
That's a that's a party felt to me. But I'm glad we're talking about it. And at least he's acknowledging like, look, I feel awful. And it's just, you know, maybe set and if they're planning on sending some more clear cut boundaries about basically like, look, when I'm in aftercare, I want to be your sole focus.
And that actually does have to be said. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because there's times that I played with with Donas and I'm literally out in subspace. He'll come over and check on me.
Give me a kiss in the forehead. I'm laying in the middle of a king sized bed and he'll go, I'm going outside to smoke and leave me alone. So, I mean, granted, it's only for three, four minutes, but I know where he's going. So I'm okay with that because that's our understanding and as soon as he comes back in, he'll come check on me.
But it's just setting some clear cut rules about what I want and don't want. I mean, if that person wants sole attention, fine. But if, you know, somebody else comes up and says, hey, how you doing? I mean, you just sit there and like, I told them for it.
I, uh, I'm on on the page. At first I was on her side and all the soft, simply support, you know, support the bottom. You guys should talk about this, you know, and and that is true. You know, just like you said, this should be something that is negotiated.
This is your long term part. This isn't pick up play. Neither of these people. One was a friend.
Don number two was the friend who was a little harder at play. And don number one, the one that she has the issue with is she knows him, knows that he's a switch, knows he has a dominant, knows all the things about him. And so that would be something that you would have a discussion, say, hey, it made me uncomfortable when you, when you had, you know, when you started having these conversations because I was still in my space and it kind of dragged me out of my space or whatever. I agree with all those things.
I don't think that's a problem. And I do think it was probably a party foul that he maybe wanted to impress the Dom, his Dom by going, huh? Did you see that? I do good.
You know, like, you know, there's all sorts of things that maybe you get excited. But, um, but as I read it and I started reading the specifics of it, all of a sudden I got like fucking pissed off because it's like, how dare you take your eyes off me? Your job is to touch me. This Dom is going to do this to me and then you're going to clean up afterwards for me and it's going to be about me.
How dare me, me, me, it was all this stuff that, you know, I'm not going to be a good person. So, which, and then to be like, I'm not going to play with my long-term partner anymore because he dared to not focus on me. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, fucking chill out. I actually fucking hate these types of people.
And you hear about this from femdom's female dominance all the time with greedy male bottoms where it's like, this is about me and it's me. My submission is a gift to you. You know what? Well, guess what?
My fucking dominance is a gift too, bitch. What am I getting out of this? I'm sitting here staring off in space where you're in fucking La La Land. If I want to say hi to somebody and we haven't discussed that, no, I'm really, you know, this, I really need this to be about me.
Sit with me for an hour and don't say a word and pet my head. You know, hey, that's fucking cool if that's what you need. But to all of a sudden be like, oh, I didn't give you you and I didn't worship you and everyone follow your fucking script. So now you're literally going to blow me out over that.
Fuck you. Go fuck yourself. I don't play with those types of people. Like if she would have said, hey, you know, it upset me and I talked about them, that's what I think was fine.
But when you start being like, oh, this isn't me and all these people because I didn't see a single fucking word in there about what she's doing for them. Everything is detailed to the fucking thing about what they're doing for it. Once again, I'm going off, what I read. I don't know this person.
I know this could be a completely different thing. But I really, I really get pissy over people that write you a full script that don't include anything human. And you're not. What are you offering me?
Yeah. Well, and here's the other thing also. Okay, you just played with two doms. Where's number two in all this?
Dom number two, even though like Dom number one's responsible for the quote unquote physical aftercare. Did anybody think to check on Dom number two to see what their mates might be? Yeah, you don't know. You don't know.
There's just seemed like a lot. So I just had someone a couple years ago that after knowing them for a long time. And just knowing they're so about themselves. They want worshipers.
And I finally just kind of said, I'm leaving now. I've known you for 20 years. And you really, there was one phone call and it was like three separate. I would love to tell the story because I know all three things.
And it would be like, this person just wants worshipers. And I'm not going to do it. And I was just like, I called them on some bullshit. Because they said it was okay if you cheated on somebody.
This was the last of the three things. I'll share this one. She had said, if you cheated on your long term partner, but you felt bad about it. And you knew you weren't going to do it again.
I wouldn't tell the partner. I think it's okay to tell the. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. As long as I repent to myself. Yeah. As long as I repent.
Yeah. At that point, I just said, you are so fucking full of shit. Yeah. And she's got all offended and whatever.
And I go, you sound like a typical piece of shit cheating man. And I don't fucking have a need for this. And I was the end of a 20 year relationship. Yeah.
I just don't understand like, you know, the person posted this basically said he's told, you know, that Dom number one has said he's seen other people socializing during aftercare. How much has the bottom paid attention? I mean, usually when I, you know, they tell people that most of parties I go to and aftercare room is just basically like, you know, don't play any music, don't know that. Talking you want to speak up.
Yeah. Exactly. And it's just, I've seen people kind of, you know, not carry on full conversations, but like, hey, there was a nice scene. Oh, can I get your bottle of water?
And just like polite fucking conversation or even somebody talks about like, Oh, I really like trying out that weapon. Hey, where did you get that whip? Kind of normal conversation? You know, yeah, I don't have a problem with that.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. But once again, I also don't have a problem going back to if this was all pure and innocent. I don't have a problem with her being upset if she was just had an intense scene and she felt like I really need extra attention and she couldn't articulate that in the moment. Right.
And then then absolutely share that feeling. He felt bad for it. Blah, blah, blah. But it was just all the attitudes as I read all the specific things and everybody doing all of this for her.
Yeah. And just like, now you're so offended that they didn't follow your script that you're going to blow everybody out without without like, just, you know, without a conversation or whatever. And that's when I'm like, Oh, you want worshipers and you want people to be about you. And that is a problem.
And you do hear a lot of female dominance talk about greedy male bottoms and how they treat the dominant as like an ATM. And that it's like, Oh, you're going to do this for me and then you're going to play this way and I'm going to have all my limits. And if you don't follow my limits perfectly, of course, I'm going to ruin your life online. And you know, you have to deal with all this shit and responsibility to do it right and not fuck up because you know, you're, you're, it's all going to go bad.
And it's sometimes you're like, and then if I don't do it right, you're going to just fucking dump me without a fucking conversation. Go fuck yourself. Just go fuck yourself. Go find some other fucking simp to fucking play with.
Yeah. You know, I'm putting in work. I'm putting in concentration. Now, once again, there's bad dominance and we've we've trashed a million dominance in the show.
And when I've made mistakes, I get trashed and have to deal with it. But we can talk about shitty submissives. And we can say that what a dominant does who puts in their time and attention and respect and consideration to give you a play scene that is memorable, that is impacting, that puts you in a place where you need to be. That takes a lot of work, training and effort.
So show a little goddamn respect. Yeah. You know, if you don't like something, that's fine. Tell me about it.
And it's even take a kink out of it for a minute. Sometimes people are just oblivious. I mean, I've had multiple male partners where it's been basically like, I'll put in the effort to do my hair and makeup and wear a nice dress. And they're like, okay, you're ready to go.
And I'm like, hi, insert a nice comment here. And they're like, oh, you look great tonight. You look really sexy. Sometimes people just need a little poke like, Hey, could you not talk to her now or Hey, can you like, you know, it's sometimes it's not to be mean.
It's not to be callous. It's not because you're not going to touch me. It's surely because people are just sometimes oblivious about it wasn't a big deal to the person doing it. But it may be a big deal to the bottom and it's just basically like, okay, I'm just like, okay.
I'm sorry. I didn't know move it. You know, move on. But it's just, you know, some people sometimes people just oblivious.
Let it go. We're going to go to dinner tonight. He's going to buy me dinner tonight and then grovel. Oh, good.
And I'll see if I'll take him back. I mean, this is me. Until the next time he fucks up. Yeah, till the next time he fucks up.
And then then it'll be, here's what else you didn't do. I'm so sorry. I'm just so just, I know this is just a letter. This might not be this person at all.
I'm going to do it. Because they'd be like, what the fuck? Or maybe they are like, Oh, maybe I shouldn't make everything so strictly about me. Yeah, or Dom two is looking in on that.
I don't want to touch that. Yeah, no shit. I read this and I was dumb too. I'm like, Dodge the bullet on that.
No, no, that's fine. I'll just go play somebody that can interact with me a little bit better. I'm sorry. You didn't get what you want.
And once again, there are those people and there are those other dominance that really, really love giving that type of worship and attention. And I don't care what you want to call it, you know, service tops or whatever it is, you need to establish that in your relationship. And when things fuck up, you know, it wasn't like the guy fucking stuck a knife in her or, you know, did something that caused harm. Yeah, he just he had a conversation with somebody while he was still heading you about.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, so that should be a conversation. And you know, obviously that was something that was ongoing.
You know, and he consistently, you know, didn't give a fuck about your aftercare needs. Yeah, absolutely. Don't stop playing with somebody like that. But on the first time, you'll bitch chill out.
Chill the fuck out. I'm sure I have made a few people hate me, but I don't really care because that's how I feel. But that's part of our love for you is we hate you sometimes. That's it.
That's all you know, all this love God. All this love God has been spread in the low. I just I just, you know, I just put it out there and I have to kind of hold back sometimes. But today I didn't.
I didn't. I'm glorious. Love me. Oh, no, did he trap out again?
No, I was just giving a dramatic pause before we entered. We entered the magic of the Uncle Creepy segments. And that's where we are. We're here.
I am here. Okay, let's start with something kind of awkward. And I'm going to ask because I'm going to tell you what my feelings are. And it was it was the no, I don't know if I want to start the show like this.
I want to start. This is not appropriate. I don't think what I want to ask you is an appropriate way to start the show. I'm going to ask you a question.
So Spike just emails me and says, Hey, I'm going to be in town. And and and you know, I just I'm going to be here for a little while and you know, it's kind of surprise whatever visit. And she said, you know, do you want to get together? And then even she said maybe even just for, you know, talk or lunch or whatever.
You know, something like that. And then instantly I'm like spanking and instantly I'm like, wait a minute. She's with Uncle Creepy now. And then I felt very uncomfortable, which I wouldn't.
You know what I'm saying? A little conflict here. Yeah, I get it. So what's the question?
Well, the question. Well, you know, I'm thinking spanking and that's that's you know, that's what I'm thinking, but I'm not going to do it. But I'm still thinking it. Okay.
And you're in a poly relationship and I still don't know how to navigate that. Oh, well, you've been in poly relationships before. How would you have dealt with that? With what are your previous partners?
Said don't fucking touch nobody. I'm the fucking king here. Oh, yeah. I want one penis policy guy.
I'm not an actual poly guy. Yeah, I'm with OPP. So I don't know. So the reason I would be like, well, even if and she didn't say, Hey, I want to come over and fuck.
She literally kind of moved it away from play and talked about like, well, even if we just get together and catch up or have coffee or something. So, but my mind goes to wow, we used to be lovers and we play, but now she's with Uncle Creepy. And so instantly I just kind of shut that off. And I'm like, well, I kind of know how I feel and I wouldn't want to do that anyway, because it would make me uncomfortable.
But how do you actually feel about that was going to be a question? But then I didn't want to put you on the spot on the show and just spring that on you. So you would have to be like, Oh, yeah, I'm totally cool with it when maybe you're not. Well, I am totally cool with it.
But you are a respectful play partner. The trust that you have created throughout the years of our friendship would place me in a situation where knowing spike and knowing you, you would make the correct decisions. You know your limits. Spike knows hers.
Spike knows mine. And those parameters would be followed. I would trust the both of you to stay within a reasonable set of boundaries, whatever those maybe play or sex or otherwise. And I have always felt that it's not my business to tell other people how to experience pleasure.
I hear you. I hear you. And what I hear is a very logical, a very thought out, a very responsible and a very mature response. But all I hear in the background is like, yeah, I've said that shit too.
You're a good person. I understand you. Absolutely. It's none of my business and whatever.
And when I'm dating somebody, then I completely I have none. I get involved in none of their other partners. I'm it's none of my business. You know, we're just lovers.
We're just play partners. It's none of my fucking business. Who you fuck who you date, whatever. I just hope you're being safe and that you're taking care of yourself and that the person treats you with the respect that I want to treat you with.
I say all of those things. But in a relationship, like if I'm actually invested in somebody, yeah, I can say all that shit. But that's that's not how I feel. Yeah, but that's that's how your relationship is.
I'm not you and you're not me. So I say you don't feel you don't feel you don't feel twinges. Oh, do I I fucking it stabs me because she's got other partners. And the thing of it is is I also look at it from my side of the view too.
She doesn't get to fuck me and and on the amounts that she probably wants. Sure because you're a god. Yeah, and she gets you know, she lives with somebody else and they have a very intimate relationship that I I have with my with me and my partner. Right.
And you know, and those feelings of jealousy, they stab me hard. Like when she first, I think a while ago, she had talked about fucking her partner and it set me off. Yeah, fucking was like, how dare you fuck somebody? That's not me.
Right. And then I was like, what the fuck asshole? You don't get to tell her what she can and can't do like that. You don't control her that way.
And neither I wouldn't want to. So that jealousy, I turn it into lust. That's how I've been dealing with it before is like, she's fucking somebody else. But soon she's gonna fuck me and she's gonna fuck me hard.
And then you know what, I'm gonna go fuck my partner because I can. And you know, I can I can separate that that feeling and just churn it straight into undeniable lust. Like I that can only describe it. It's just pure primal fuck feelings.
And like the Alpha Lion thing like, all right, bitch, you're my pussy now. That's the difference between Alpha penguins and Alpha Lions. See, see an Alpha Penguin wants it to be monogamous. And you know, it's like, oh, this chick's only for me and I'm only for her and whatever.
So I have moments of Alpha Penguin. But I want to be an Alpha Lion, but you can't be an Alpha Lion because an Alpha Lion takes over a pride and never asks the chick about her body count. You know, Lions don't come and go, how many, how many lions did you have before me? You never, they just come in and go, all right, you're my pussy now.
This is my pussy now. And so I kind of do that when it's our moment. Right. When I'm with Mina, this is my partner.
We're together. There's nobody else but me and you right now. And you know, when I'm with Spike, it's like, this is me and you now. There's nobody else.
And that's the way it is. And I think, I don't know, I think I would even call myself an Alpha human. I would say it's more like a, I don't want to say like a fuck penguin. I don't even know.
There's some, there's some analogy here that we're going. But in general, you are able to navigate the both sides. And I think that's kind of important. I'm really actually glad we got into this because it's, it's an important thing to understand that just because you have poly or just because you are able to navigate your partner having other partners, it doesn't mean that jealousy doesn't occur.
It doesn't mean that those feelings don't occur and that uncomfortableness. It's just a matter of whether or not you can realistically deal with it and move on. I think and move on is very critical. We don't talk about it a lot on the show.
And I have to be honest, I have that maturity. I can compartmentalize it as long as we're not in a 24 set like as long as I'm not your daddy. Once I'm your daddy, it's my penis. And I hope you're bisexual because we're going to be fucking other girls together.
And once again, I have to understand that that's my lack of ability to process and move on. I can process it. I've done it. But I can't move on.
They're the part of my brain that's so territorial and so controlling and has so much vulnerability and insecurity and competition towards other. Men, I can't navigate that. I tried it. I tried it on a number of occasions and I can't.
So it's very difficult for me to project that onto somebody else that that can. And they're, I mean, once again, if you're a guy that gets turned on by your partner fucking other dudes, that's your, that's the easiest thing in the world. Because now it's your, it's your kink. You like it.
That's great. You know, you see guys at Glory holes and she's like, ah, suck out of fucking dudes dick and then you're going to suck my dick. And you know, it's kind of gross to me. But you know, but yeah, I don't know for them there.
Yeah. You know, but the, but where you're at is you can't. Put that in a situation where you can turn it into a lust. You can turn it into something positive.
And then it doesn't fuck with your brain afterwards. Yeah. Well, it's a difficult road because it doesn't just go away. Like you said, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't get to, you know, it doesn't go away.
I still don't want to hear about how great the other partner is. Well, even so, like, if, if he was so great or that other partner was so great, then why would she be with me? Yeah. I think that's where the security comes.
And obviously she's with you because she loves the things about you that are you. Yeah, she loves it. And that's the whole idea between non-anogamy and poly is that you don't have to just take somebody with their set of skills. You can have more things.
You can have more experiences, which of course makes you grow more and learn more and then bring more back in to each individual relationship, which is all logical. It makes sense. But do we really feel that? And are we able to navigate that?
See, for me, like, it's like I can compartmentalize the other shit. Like, I think it's kind of poor form. If any woman ever asked me because I'm with other partners and even when I was with Mew and Bunny and then we had other partners, we mostly did everything together. That was the easiest way.
And it was the most fun. I liked all of us being together. So if other lovers came in, we all attacked them together. And it was like our kind of tripod thing.
Yeah, it was our pile of bodies. And that was good because we were all together. But on the occasions where maybe I saw somebody other than that and they were like, so how did it go? I would always be like, oh, it was nice.
I would never, never gush. Even if it was like the most incredible experience of my life. I would be like, I was nice. You know, it's cool.
Yeah. We got together good. It was real nice. I think she had a good time.
Hopefully she had a good time. Put it on to them, you know, because I, you know, you know, my skills. But you would never say like she blew my dick inside out. Yeah, like, oh my God, it was just so aggressive and gurr and whatever.
It's just I can't do it because I know that when I compartmentalize and you know, and I know that my partner has another partner and they're off doing things. And I don't want to hear that they're the greatest in the world because I'm competitive. Yeah. And then it fucks with me and then I can't get hard because now I'm just thinking about, I got to beat this fucking dude that I don't even know.
I mean, there's whatever some people have a harder time doing it. And instead of beating myself, I hated myself for what I called that immaturity. And it's not an immaturity. It's just your that's how you are.
Those are your limits. How are wired? Yeah, that's how we're created. Yeah, that's how you're that's the unfortunate parts that hopefully manifest into other things that are positive attributes.
But try it. So if I hang out with Spike, I'm probably not going to sodomize her is what I'm saying. Okay, well, you don't need my permission to do it. You need her.
Well, I appreciate that. But we'll probably just get coffee and keep it safe like that. But it was it was an interesting thing because it came up because I know I had like, I don't I really don't like being with women that are in other relationships because I have to deal with these things and I have so much chaos in my head already. Yeah.