EPISODE · Nov 18, 2025 · 1H 54M
434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer
from The Talk Show With John Gruber · host Daring Fireball / John Gruber
Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years of Dan’s site, The New Consumer.
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Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple Silicon Macs. Also, six years...
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