Well, God damn it, Pat, girl, it happens every time this way that I shake my gigantic penis and something goes weird with Zencaster. It's it's it's it's really it's a bird. It's a bird. And I was sitting here.
We're ready to log on. And then I say, I have to adjust my massive penis and I shipped it to the side. And then 26 minutes of us not hearing each other. So I think what happened was that my giant penis flocked through Zencaster and not you unconscious.
And now we're here. Yeah. I don't think so. No.
I think it's just the technical gods. Once again, no, no, no, it's happening up overhead. No, I don't want your penis touching me. Thank you.
No, I have a piece of just touched your elbow. I touched Kathy's shoulder once. Oh, I did. We're in the we're in the office and I said, I'm going to put my dick on your shoulder.
And she's like, go ahead. And I did it. And I just whipped it out and put it on her shoulder and she went really nice and said, dude, that's consent. Well, technically yes.
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There's this Halloween might be over, but I still hear Monique in my house on Dr. I am Count Boogie. And I love how you put a Halloween might be over. But this show gets released on the 30th, you know, well, OK, I had my dick mixed up.
Sorry. In Halloween is the 31st. So technically it's still a day away. I thought we were releasing this in November.
So fuck me. OK, just fuck me. I would fuck you, but you don't want to touch my penis, which is going to make it a little difficult. I mean, I mean, is it if it's in a condom?
I mean, technically I'm not touching you with my penis, right? No, but then eventually like your pelvis would eventually touch me and then I would just go on and tell me. Oh, no, you want to pelvis hug me? No, no, there's not even pelvis hugging.
There's only one part of your body that is allowed to touch me. And you know why? My butthole. No, because Uncle Creepy said hide your tits.
Well, I feel included. That's very nice. Yes, exactly. Very much Uncle Creepy.
It's included. Even though it's a little awkward. But that's not what's important, Path Girl. What's important is vaginas.
And I saw the greatest vagina movie. You know, as a perverted guy, you see, you always look for which movie has the most flesh in it. And that's what the greatest movie is. The Oscar goes to movie with most movie shots, but shots.
And in this case, vagina shots. And I have to tell you, Path Girl, we had to leave America to win the Oscar for the best movie ever recorded. And it's a movie called Desire. It's a French movie.
It has subtitles. It's on to be right now. And I won't give away because I don't even know what the plot is. I'm halfway through the movie and it's literally the opening scene is literally shower scene, like public community women's shower and the camera.
It's like a blue tint to the to the camera and it's literally dozens of women all from the waist down. So it's like you get you don't even get boobs for it eventually pans up to boobs in another scene. But it's just all these women naked in the shower talking and they're all walking directly at the camera and it's just vagina everywhere. Like I wish I had a big screen TV and it's just and you can see lips and it's just and I'm like, oh my God.
And it just went on and on and it's just butts and vaginas. And the whole movie is just nudity and you know, and just and this is on TV. Wow, this is free. It's on TV.
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Avoid the things you regret. Can't advice better yet. Let our failures be your wins as we discuss kinky topics off Reddit. Well, Pat girl, this is something that I know you're going to know something about.
I surely know this and it's a funny because I kind of think I know what's going on and she hints to it, but I'm like, it's just a fun it's a fun thing. But it's also something to think about and it's something for tops to think about and bottoms to think about if you try to make an adjustment to this thing that can't necessarily be adjusted. And this is focused during subspace. Focus during subspace, which in and of itself just sounds like an oxymoron.
My dog is asking me what I want. And I'm the most undecided person in the world. And it doesn't help the fact that he's asking in the middle of the scene when I am heavy into subspace. So he knows me very well.
He knows exactly what I like in my limits. Since we talk about it a lot. We have a very long history together, but he's asking me what I want in the middle of the scene. And I just can't concentrate enough to give him a straight answer.
I think he's enjoying my struggle. But I'd like to learn how how to concentrate enough so that I can think of what I want in that moment. Do you have any idea on how to focus during subspace better in the middle of a scene? I yes, I'd also like to learn how to fly.
And I would like how to make water taste like chocolate without adding chocolate to it. This is a dark hand for like subspace or something, you know, like people like immediately get out of a high or something we could give people. Yeah, it's called it's called ice cold water. Ice cold water is great for doing that.
It does work and it has been used or you just he's let's go into the thing. Can it be done, path girl? Do you feel this can be done? I have a lot of thoughts on this.
Yeah, can you now she wants to focus? She's like, I want to be that I want when you ask me a question, God damn it. First, why don't you explain to the pervert podcast listeners who are new who don't understand the term subspace? What subspace is?
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Subspace is basically the body's chemical reaction to when you're playing in a scene and your body is going through pain or going through pleasure. Your body's releasing all those happy endorphins. Those are the ones that you've maybe heard of something called a runner's high where people just get ecstatically happy or you may see some people pass out. You may see some people just get this mile, you know, thousand yards there.
Everybody reacts to pain and pleasure differently during a scene. Me personally, I tend to go nonverbal when I am in subspace. It I get like pretty much I could hear everything going on, but like I cannot physically respond to anyone. So asking someone to concentrate during subspace could it be done?
Absolutely. Is it likely to be done? Probably not. Probably not because it's just you're trying to fight against your body's biochemical instincts.
I mean, pretty much like take a whole like two doses of NyQuil and then try to will yourself to stay awake. It's probably not going to happen for a while, but your basically your body's going to succumb to those chemicals. So that being said, he's probably liking to fuck around with her, which any problem is going to love that, especially if they stick to them. That's going to be my first guess.
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, if it were me and I had to try to, you know, communicate something, I try to remember a couple of words. Like if he's asked me, what do I want in the middle of the scene?
Paddle, flogger hands. Just try to get, yeah. You know, can keep it simple. And that way, you know, and even gets to the point where I'm toward the end of the subspace, where I can only speak a few words at a time, because there's been times like even when I started to go into trouble where I've gotten dizzy or I need to lay down.
And I'm like, you know, I'll basically say down. And that's the word to doc and don is, Hey, I need to lay down. So the other thing she could do is for me, music has always been a key for me in subspace. If I start losing subspace or I start like the pain is getting ahead of me.
I focus on the music. That's why I love putting on music that I really like. And that way I can kind of concentrate in the music and it kind of brings me back to center like, okay, I can push the pain out or push the subspace away a little bit, but it's going to be super hard to try to fight against those chemicals. Where you think?
Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, it's there are two different types of neurotransmitters and chemicals that are going on, you know, because you have your dopamine and your nori. I should have looked up. No, I mean, yeah.
Yeah. Well, there's one. The thing is, is it's like there are the chemicals that make you high, which obviously dopamine is a lot of serotonin and, you know, those mixes. And then there's also chemicals in your brain that make you focus, which would be like adrenaline and things like that.
So if the idea that you're going to try to be in the middle of one set of chemicals in your brain and then have to have your brain trigger other chemicals in order to make you focus, it's impossible to stay in subspace. They call it, they don't call it subcoherent. They got it subspace. You know, there's a reason that it has that fucking name.
It's supposed to be space. If it's coherent, that's a completely different scene because now you're releasing different stuff in the brain that's telling you how to focus. So it's kind of like, that's why we laugh. It's not really possible unless you're going to come out of subspace, which for some people is that's the end of your subspace.
There's there's ways where maybe you could come out of it a little bit, like you said, with certain words or maybe little word training. So before you go into a scene and you say, if I say marshmallow, it's still a visual of something soft and sweet and yummy, but it also gives you, you know, when we say marshmallow, you get to say these words. So it's kind of like a training, a hypnotic kind of training that you're doing, which people have done. There are certain cues that people have in play that allow you to come out a little bit, but if you come out too much, you're not going to be able to get back in.
And I've seen that a lot of times before, especially in little space, pet play, those types of things where people are really, really into that trance. And that's a lot of what it is. It's a trance, but there's chemicals in it that also can make you hallucinate and just trip balls. Like literally there's, I played with people that are gone.
Do not let them drive, do not let them walk, do not let them be by themselves. They are fucking in a lot, lot of land and they are seeing things and having visions. And if you try to take someone out of that, then that's the end of that. And for someone like me, as the top, you have to make a decision.
Like, of course, it's, it's amazingly fun to fuck with somebody very briefly when they're deep and you ask them a math question. You're all, so what's the compound fracture of three quarters time? You know, pick up some shit. Yeah.
What's, you know, and then just to see that look or a geographic question, Hey, where's my Tswana, by the way? And they're just that look and they're like, I don't know. It's very fun to do that. But if you keep asking questions, then there's a part of the mind that says, Hey, you have to focus for survival.
This is, this is important. And then it's going to stop the release of the high chemicals and give you the focus chemicals. And once again, if you do too much of it, that could bring you out and then you've kind of fucked up your scene. I love, I love for my partner to go way, way out and then tell me afterwards.
I like, I want to orchestrate them because, you know, I'm sober and I don't get to get high anymore. So, so I want to get them as fucking whacked out of their mind as they can. And then the rule is they have to tell me about it afterwards. So I want to hear, and I have heard some of the most entertaining stories I have ever heard from another human being is a partner that I've played with, explaining their subspace during our scene together.
It is always the same though. Really? It's the, yeah, because from, okay, subspace for me, like I'll start getting like that warm feeling and I start getting that head fuzziness. To me, it's all I tell people a great description is basically is if I was laying on like an inner tube or a raft in a warm pool and the sun's beating down on me.
So basically I get that really warm feeling and my eyes are closed. You know, when you close your eyes and you're in the sun, you can kind of feel seat, come through your eyelids a bit. So you feel that warmth, you need that warmth. And I'm just floating in the pool, just kind of like there's no sound, you know, and it's just that floating in literally floating in the pool.
But for me, physically, like I go nonverbal. I mean, most of the time, if I feel like I'm about to go completely out of the subspace, I will go over to Donis and basically like curl up into him and I will make sure that I rest my hands on part of his body or I'll take my hand and put it on part of his body because I can't talk. I can hear every single thing. I cannot talk.
I cannot move. Do you process anything visually? Like when you're I don't know. I understand your eyes are closed, but do you see anything in your mind?
Do you visualize anything? Do you know? It is literally like, no, I'm late. It's like if it was a sunny day in the summer and I was laying in a warm pool and just kind of had my head back and my eyes closed and I could feel the sun beaming on my eyelids.
Right. But you have no thoughts. There's no like visions. You don't see this.
It's just quiet and a blue light. Well, like yellow light almost because it's the sun. Yeah, for some. Yeah.
So it's just it's just literally like if it was a sunny day and I was laying out in a warm pool and my head was back and my eyes were closed. The exact same thing every single time. I mean, it's that is a peaceful damn place. Exactly.
It's wonderful. It's a peaceful place to be. Yeah. And once again, very different and we should say this for our new listeners, that not everyone achieves a level of subspace.
Some people enjoy the Macsickism and maybe they just go into eroticism. It just becomes erotic. It just turns them on because you're more interactive. There's a lot of people that have different levels of hyperactivity in their mind.
And so it's very, very difficult for them to let go, even when they're processing pain or things like that. It's and once again, everyone has their level of where they go and what that kink is for, but for the people that do get into kind of that ethereal state, it can be anyone like what you just described to me is actually something I haven't heard where it's completely like there's no visions. There's no thoughts. There's there's no.
I've had people that just get calm and they feel peaceful, but they still hear everything. They can still talk and they still can communicate. They just have a warm fuzzy feeling and but they're still very coherent. And then I've had people go all the way into I was swimming through chocolate and I could taste the chocolate with my skin.
Like my skin, I could taste chocolate with my arms, legs, everything. Like they felt chocolate and had that sweet taste in their mouth. The mind produced that in their mouth through their skin. I've had weeping budacins and then of course, bunny famously used to go to this like during needle play.
She used to go we used to go up to this giant cliff in her mind and that quit like it looked out over the ocean or scenic and there was a giant swing, like one of those hilltop swings and she would just swing on that swing and look out and so she but it was a specific place, but she still saw many things. And then I've heard things about colors and oh, I was in red. There was a vortex under me and it was swirling red and there was peace. There's so many different then that's the some of the best stories I've ever heard were from the visions that people have.
Wow, they go into that subspace. So do you really want to stop that? Some people. Yeah, there are and there are doms and once again, here's a negative.
I'll throw in a negative. There are some dominance that you may play with that are like, I want you to focus on me. I don't want you fucking leaving and looping out or whatever. And for some things in the ego, I'll say that's a negative, especially if it's every time like if it's a certain scene where I'm not going to let you go into subspace, I want you to stay focused because we're going to do A, B and C that I want to do.
Absolutely. You're the dominant. You you rain, but if somebody can go into deep says space, which is so therapeutic for so many bottoms, if you want to make sure that they don't have that so they can focus on you and your dick, it's a little douchey after a while. It definitely is a little selfish.
But once again, if they say this is what it is and I don't want you to do that and you agree to the game, then that's what you want. And that's that's absolutely completely fine in your dynamic. But it's a little selfish. Well, I'm just going to call it a little selfish.
And once again, everyone, as long as you disclose what you do before you play, that's fine. But the idea that you're going to be able to kind of control that tsunami of chemicals and then be sharp and coherent and then go back into it. It's a little unlikely. It is a little unlikely.
Yeah. And then also don't forget later, you know, if you're not careful with all those chemicals, then you can go into what's called drop for the newbies. It's basically when all those chemicals kind of like leave your body, your body's like, wait, come back. You know, it's kind of like having a really great ice cream sundae and realizing, Oh, it's all gone.
Having a drop on the sidewalk all of a sudden. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. But another thing, basically, a scene is not, don't think your scene's not successful.
If you don't get the subspace, I have had plenty of amazing scenes where I've gotten that warm fuzzy feeling in my head, but not to the point where like I'm fully in subspace and fully incoherent, where it's just basically like, you know, Oh, this feels really good. I mean, I've seen friends of mine who have played and basically just kind of get that like if they were drunk kind of like, Hey, you know, I've only had one drink, so I'm kind of like lose, but I'm not like loopy-goopy. So, but if you don't get the subspace in a scene, that's okay too. Sometimes it's just fun just to have the experience or just even like you could train yourself to like have scenes last longer.
And it's just like if you start feeling space, you have seen people pull back and go, no, no, no, we're not hitting there. It's going to work on your stuff. Yeah, that's actually pretty common too. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I think there's so many options for your type of play. Just don't don't don't shame yourself for what you have and find that because also it could be final point.
It could be also the level of trust that you have. If you're not going into subspace, your body could still be in survival mode and your mind could be in survival mode. So you haven't worked out enough trust with this top that you feel okay to completely let go because I think above all else subspace is a type of surrender and it's a letting go of yourself. And if a part of your brain doesn't feel comfortable letting that letting go that much and being that vulnerable with a partner, then it's very unlikely that you're going to be able to go deep into any sort of trance with that person.
I mean, the body is specifically geared to survive. So that could be something if you're having trouble getting into subspace to talk to your partner and to go, how do they make you feel if they're very attentive and you guys have great communication and you're still not going into subspace? Okay. Maybe, you know, warm bath beforehand, do some stretching, you know, maybe do some mantras and try to get yourself.
But ultimately, if your brain is very hyper like mine, I've never like cause tops can have top space too. And it can actually be dangerous because now you're out of control. And there's been a few stories of tops not stopping because they're in space and somebody has to jump in between or whatever. I don't have a mind for it.
I have never once in the hundreds of scenes that I have played. I've never, I've gotten relaxed and very focused and in rhythms, but I always know what the fuck's going on. And I'm always planning and plotting and producing and watching and checking breath and things like that. So, so some people just don't get there and there's nothing wrong with that.
Just enjoy what you find out of it. But, uh, I just, so what's 27 times 23? What? Uh, 42 wrong.
Explain to me the basic function of a combustion engine. What? What? Fire.
I just imagine like somebody like telling to give me like math questions, like, what's 42 plus 24? And I'd be like, ah, it's great. It's great. But if you do too much, they'll come out of it because then they start going, push, come on, you got to answer it because then it becomes that challenge that I got to answer this.
I'll show him. I know he's trying to fuck with me. And now all of a sudden you're coherent. You're like 72.
And then you're like, Oh, shit. No, I lost. We got started all over again. Fucking fuck.
He's a, he's enjoying fucking with her. And just, you know what? Enjoy the ride. It's awesome.
Yeah. It's a, it's a lot of fun. Uncle creepy lurks around your bedroom once you're in his cliche. He penetrates the places where your mama said that good girl should in touch.
Uncle creepy. Count Von Boogie. No, that's just a little. But no, but I have on.
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Somebody, somebody's a pervert. Somebody is, we have pervert proof. We have actual pervert proof. Uncle creepy pervert proof.
I thought this was amazing and sad. But amazing and go. Why are you a pervert, uncle creepy? Hey, I just want to start off by saying I do stupid things.
And I don't know if anybody knows that. You have a penis, right? I have a penis and sometimes it takes the wheel. It's stupid.
Stupid things are the way of the pain. Yeah. So I was, you know, I like my car is to be clean. So I was in a car wash and as I churn out of the car wash to get a vacuum and get it ready.
I noticed a beautiful hot tan brunette beautiful angel off to my right hand inside and she's getting in a car and I'm like, oh, shit, she doesn't have panties. Oh, yeah. And I'm staring and I'm like, oh my God, she's she's bending over. And I'm like, oh God, she's bending way over.
And I'm sure they're playing like the tension. Yeah. Like it's like building to the fucking heavens opening up. And like, you know, like some, you know, some electric cars have that sound so that they don't see a tiny thing.
Oh, the angel sound. Yep. And Lord help me because I almost met one as I'm staring at her beautiful shaven fucking mown Boogie. I tried to effect you.
Oh, my God. Stereotypical fucking guy crash. And it was it was a low speed, you know, crash. So I just the car kind of stopped.
That wasn't using the gas. I was just coasting and I put that motherfucker in park pretended like nothing happened and that was exactly what I wanted to do. And I wanted to be close enough. You know, I waited.
I waited about 10, 15 seconds to see if anybody noticed. I embarrassingly put that motherfucker in reverse and drove away because there was no fucking way I wanted to just deal with what just happened. Oh, but you know, talking about our penises. If you're, you know, let's use penis logic here and put it to brain logic.
Uncle creepy. If you're going to crash a car, there are so many reasons to crash a car. A dumb mistake reasons to crash a car. Oh, it was reaching for the radios, reaching for my coffee, I spilled something, I was texting and driving dumb.
OK. But a non panty wearing hot woman bending over. I mean, come on. Yeah, she was on her.
She was on her tippy toes and everything like you don't do in that little stand that they do and like, oh, yeah, where the ass goes up and out. And this is. I feel like I can't have this conversation with path girl and appreciate it as much. Like I'm totally like on board with like, well, yeah, you crash your car.
Oh, that's that's just part of the the pay of a free non panty wearing. And you know, she meant it. She knew what she was doing. You don't go to a car wash without panties and start bending over and fixing your car.
Like nobody's out of the obvious unless you're drunk. I mean, I was supposed to drunk like, yeah, I just I heard a podcast at Gmail.com. Have you ever crashed something? Have you ever had a moment?
Have you ever because women too, there's women that gawk. Now, I mean, we're we turn into like, like primitive animals when when we get enraptured with some hotness. It's very difficult to turn away. Like it takes years to learn side eye and to look in the gym, to look in the mirrors, to see who's looking at you, look at her.
Like there it takes years to master the art of not being horribly creepy about looking at women, but the idea that somehow every man with blood in his veins is not looking at every beautiful woman. That's just it. That's what we're doing. It's women, women in general, honestly, like when I see something I like, I got to be like, all right, you want to you want to plan?
You want to plot? You want to, you know, and then you do the math and this is going to make us sound like assholes. And I have to say it because this is what's going through our brains. This is when you know men are there's no there's no hope.
There's no help. No, we don't. Every woman that I see goes through an instant scale. I can't help it.
Would I fuck her? How would I fuck her? How old would she be? If she was 20 years younger, would I fuck her?
If she was 50 years younger, would I fuck her? But yeah, there's always that gauge of how, how I would what it would take for her me to have sex with her because that's called attraction, by the way. Yeah. And there was a million fantasies went through my head.
Like I'm coming to get her. She's going to be like, Oh, I didn't know that you noticed me and coming to my big SUV. And we fuck and I come on her face. And I just slap her and be like, next time bitch, you wear, you know, wear this for me.
And then I drive home. Yeah. Because that's what she would have done. That's exactly how it would have gone down.
If I hadn't crash my car before the police showed up, beat you, beat half to death in the three and jail. The China's empanineses, things we find interesting. This is the random topic we are going to talk about now. So I'll give, I'll give the title that you gave me, which I'm like, we have to talk about this.
In regards to you being in a new area, new people, new dungeons, new community. You asked, do you ever feel like an imposter? And how do you deal with it? And the second you sit in posture, I instantly, I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I get this.
So give, give your synopsis of what that, what that means to you. So I've used the term imposter syndrome. It's, it's a term that I've heard before. It tends to be for more of a career based conversation where people, like, especially people who have like jobs that need a lot of experience and stuff like that.
And, you know, you get a position of, of, you know, higher up there and you feel like you just shouldn't be here, that if you know what you're doing, but you don't know what you're doing. And in the kink world. So sometimes like with this, I would say, is it infamy that I have? Like the expectations I put on myself that others are putting on me.
Yes. Even though they're not putting it on you, you're putting it on you. Right. Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, I'll talk about that in a second, because I spoke to a therapist about this, because it was really like weighing on me about like, you know, these, I know, I have experienced these things I've done scenes enough to say that I'm pretty well versed in doing stuff and stuff that I've learned on the show here, stuff that I've learned from other mentors and stuff. And I still feel like I'm going to start a scene and, like, whoever I'm in the scene with, I'll be like, this guy really doesn't fucking know what he's doing. He's terrible. That's that.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. And I feel it in my bones all the time when I'm talking to, you know, young ladies online about, you know, I could do this, that and this.
And then I'm just like, oh, fuck, what if I fuck this up? Like, you know, my whole like, like sex life is on the line here and I just build it up. So yeah. Well, I mean, what you do, I think is common among most humans.
I think we all get that kind of fear of not being able to impress the group that we're entering in or are we fake or we get our self worth is damaged, especially when we know that there's other people out there that are really good. They're already established. They got it. And now you got to go in and I'm competing with this person in that.
And your head can just spin right the hell off to where you're not even a useful human anymore, because you're literally just so trapped in that fear. So it is a very valid fear because when you come in, especially when you're coming into a new community, a new city, this is you want to do this. This I want to be here. I want to be a part of this community.
I want to be a part of these people. I want to play with these people and find partners and play and grow and be a good member of the community. And all those are great desires. But it's really your first impressions can get the best of you because there's a there's a big fear if I come in and I, you know, crack a fart joke and everyone's not into fart jokes.
And now all of a sudden I'm completely, you know, out of the scene. Those are real fears. But it really comes down to what's your intention? That's my first note when I deal with this.
What's my intention? Yeah, in regards to the play scene is my intention to impress a bunch of people around with this play scene so I can build my name quickly and everyone will see how great I am or is my intention to have a connection with a play partner. Because of my intention is to connect with a play partner, then everything else can just disappear. None of that matters.
Yeah, well, yeah. My intention is with this person that I get to play with, even though it's in front of people or whatever. I don't have to worry about that because you and I know this for sure because we've been in this community for a while. We've been both together.
We've been to hundreds of play parties, hundreds of play parties. And I will tell you and every new listener that goes through this, every veteran listener that goes through this when you see scenes and you can tell immediately when either the top or bottom are trying to show off to everybody else. And it is completely inauthentic. You end up feeling like if the top is showing off, you kind of feel sorry for the bottom.
Like, oh, she's just being used when the bottom is screaming or head off when he's, you know, he or she is screaming. You know, you can tell, oh, the bottom is just trying to show off how super masochist they are. And it's just. I would have to use the call that snarking.
Snarking. Yes, that was snark. We had snark. We talked about it on the show.
That was horrible. But it's very fake. That is the thing that will kill your reputation far faster if you're focusing on your partner. If you're focusing on the person that you're playing with and all you are interested in in that moment is to have a connection.
I have, I cannot tell you and I know you know this to path or would say the same thing. I have seen scenes by people who knew almost nothing about King. They knew a little bit of whatever they were brand new, but they were so into each other. They're little simple scene and looking at how they looked at each other and how they smiled at each other and how they had excitement for each other in that scene.
Those scenes are fucking 50 times hotter than any fucking super spinning flogger, you know, hanging from the ceiling, triple rope, fucking double, triple, dildo in the fucking feet and none of that shit is impressive. More than seeing that intention. And when potential play partners are looking at you as a top or as a bottom, they're watching how you connect with that person and they're like, well, I want to be that person. I want that.
I want that top to do that to me or I want to have a bottom that that connects with me like that. That is that is it seems counterintuitive, you know, like, oh, I should be doing all these things and make cookies and do all these things to impress everybody. But in in King and BDSM, especially in these types of plays, it doesn't matter. I mean, of course, it's wonderful and great when people do fancy things, but it is so much more impressive when you see that intention.
That's the number one toy in the toy bag. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, I am.
So what I've tried to really use to get through it is to try and see from their point of view what they think of me kind of. I don't think that anyone would let me play with them if they didn't trust me, if they didn't know that I knew what I was doing. Right. A lot of people need to see your skills.
So I think peacocking is kind of, it's kind of fun. I do now that I think about it. I do. Peacocking?
Is that kind of like showing off or? Yeah. So you talked about like showing off is not really what people look for, but I feel like when, you know, I call it peacocking because, you know, the male peacock is the one that's beautiful. It shows how it's been and stuff, but that applies to both sides to where you want to show, especially if you play with it.
If you want to play with a lot of people, I think showing off your skill set, but still maintaining a connection like you and the play scene partner are the only one there, but you still have that ability to show off your skills. I think it's something that I know I do. Oh, so strategic. You mean?
Yeah. I'm good at fire play in that way. You can show off your skill set. I think so.
I feel that it's just me at least that I like I'm a showman. I like showing off. I like people watching as much as I enjoy watching. And I do agree with your intention.
My intention is to have a scene with somebody else, not a scene with this person and a bunch of people in the room, but I know that people are watching a dungeons and I like to be entertaining. And and the stuff I do, I like to be, you know, I like to be entertaining. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's called being an exhibitionist.
There's, you know, it's I'm an entertainer. I've been an entertainer my entire life. So I absolutely get that there is a certain amount of fun in being the showman and getting the group involved, but it is you have to be very careful to not let that get away from you. Unless it's like, unless it's a demo and you're like a dungeon, you know, some sort of big festival or something where you're doing, you know, suspension demos or whatever, then both the top and the bottom note, we are here to show off.
Yeah. And then that's fine because you're doing fantastical things for people that are maybe not into the community or just there's a lot of new people. And, you know, a lot of curiosity. So I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
But even from from that point of view, none of those demos ever turn me on. It's more just like, I don't want to be with those people. It's just more like, Oh, that's really fantastical that they do this stuff. And then they have a dance and they're, you know, they're, you know, they're, you know, what do you call it when they incorporate together a sequence to synchronize or whatever.
You know, that's great. That's it's fantastic and showy, but I'm still going to go back to if there's not, if you don't see that they're into it, then it just becomes like watching Shady Porn. Yeah. It's just like when she's you can sell she's getting paid $900 to get fucked.
That's not that that's it. But when you can see that she's like smiling and she's looking at me can I contact and and she's like, yeah, fucking fuck me. Even if it's active, it's still you're showing that there's an, you know, there's intention there. It's just hotter.
Yeah, I like that. And so now I so with dealing with it, I've kind of just been like, well, I need to be very much cognizant of and I know you I know you like using this who's driving the bus. Right. And I get those feelings, but then I immediately take the wheel and be like, no, dude, like people have sought me out to play with me.
Yes. Like people like I've done, I mean, it's not like, you know, I've done the work. Right. I've gotten myself to the point where I can trust in my skill as a top.
I can trust my skill as a sadist to provide what these people are asking from me and do it safely and have a lot of fun with it. And those thoughts are fleeting and they happen all the time, even with the most skilled of people. And I don't let it drive the bus as long as as previous. So it definitely was something I'm glad we talked about.
Yeah. I think that's I think that's a great approach. I absolutely think that's a great approach. A point I also wanted to make when you push yourself to people, don't shoot your mouth off without hearing what they want because sometimes we do.
Hey, I'm going to be the best at this. I'm really good at wax play. Always talk about your skill and there's nothing wrong with saying I really love to do wax play. I really, but whenever you hype yourself up as, you know, I'm actually really good at this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That's a different that puts a different thing in somebody's head because you put an expectation. When you kind of come in and you say that, Oh, I'm really good at this. I'm really known for this. That kind of pea cocking using your term.
That's where it gets dangerous. If you come in from the fact that, wow, I really love to do wax play. What have you done it before? And then talk about, Oh, these are the things I do.
And then it becomes more of like, Oh, let's explore this together. You're not coming from kind of that snobby point of view that you're great because it's like when it's almost a guarantee when any chick has ever said I give the greatest head. It's almost a guarantee they do not give the greatest head. Yeah.
They've been told they give the greatest heads by someone who was desperate for a blow job, you know, so I had one blow job in their life. Oh my God. And it's the same for men with oral and and whenever you over hype yourself, if you come at a point to where you know, you have certain skills and you know the way that you do wax play, you know the way that you spank, the way that you do. If your goal is to figure out what they like or what they're interested in and then make an offering of the way that you do something that lowers the expectation of the other person going in.
When you say, and this is a rule in comedy music, anything, when you get on stage and you say coming up next, the greatest fucking comedian in the world, you have now just upped everyone's expectation to the fucking hilt. Yeah. And they're going to sit there with their arms crossed over their chest and go, all right, fucker, impress me. Yeah.
And that happens in the dungeon and happens everywhere. So that was my point. I like it. Yeah.
Yeah. Don't overhype yourself and then you won't get overwhelmed and win shit, fucks up because when shit fucks up and you've already talked about the I love doing this, you can laugh about it. And the other person will be like, oh, that's a normal thing that happens. But do you love the thing that you're doing?
Exactly. I would say, yeah, that's what I was saying is that make sure you're securing yourself. And the point I thought about with what you said is that when you put a fantasy in somebody's head, I've always said the fantasy is better than the reality. And starting off with being humble and then knowing that you will sell past your humbleness will even increase the amount of, you know, of, you know, infamy that you receive.
Like you'll be better received and you can see that, you know, you've exceeded their expectations. The whole shoot for the moonland in the stars sort of thing. Right, right, right. And I think that that was something that I personally, I think I personally overhype myself.
Just because of my personality, it gets a little like, you're Uncle Creepy. What kind of creepy shit do you do? And it's like, well, I can't do what I want because you would probably send me to jail or I wouldn't be able to be seen in public at a dungeon. But, you know, if these are the things that you want to explore safely and consensually, you know, I don't mind showing pickles of your ass.
It's not a problem, but you can't ask relish. Yeah. We make some ass relish there. Yeah, I just don't sell like a good meal.
I would like a lady. I asked a lady if I could eat Cap and Crunch out of her asshole and we're in negotiations. So we're getting ready now. OK, but you can't leave with that.
You can't. Yeah, that's usually not a good show opener. Yeah. With that.
Hi, hi. How are you? Can I eat Captain Crunch out of your ass? Well, that's that's the end of the conversation.
That's zero to 60 right there. Yeah. I think you're I think in general, you're not doing anything out of the ordinary and and I like the fact that you have found some options to get your get your crazies back in the back of the bus and allow you to go forward. You do have a lot of skills, a lot of people like you and and just focus on the on enjoying the play because if you're having fun, people want to be with people that are having fun.
That's really the only thing that you need to get it about. Am I having fun doing this? Yeah, because the fun will attract other fun and it has and it started like I'm talking to a young lady who's a fucking sex freak and she's just like, I heard about this and everything and and it's like, you're going to do a bunch of events and and I want to fuck you handmade in style and you know, me and I wants to do it too. And that's not a voice, but that's what everything's everything is a lofting question at the end.
I want to go to be amazing. Talk to somebody like that. Yeah. I'm going to go over here and get a sandwich.
All right, Boogie. I'm not on the show. Hello. Drowned up and lick my pussy.
This is great. Or keep it tight. Uncle creepy. Yes, we're done.
We're looking out of here. It's a good topic. Thanks so much for being here and put your foot on the break before you look at the girls. Yeah.
Come on, Boogie. You've done the same thing. I'm sure. It probably would have been more disastrous.
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Thank you so much, Pat girl. Thank you Uncle Creepy. Really fun show and thank you so much to the directors of desire because blue vagina's Tim's. You know you're going to watch it.
I'm going to watch the other half tonight and try not to cry. But try to cry. When I cry, but I'm not. I mean, they're so beautiful.
They are. I mean, when it gets that many, you're like, I want all of them. And I've been in situations where I've had multiple vaginas in my bed and it was like, OK, they're all yours. And it's just like that feeling of like, this is this is the greatest.
Like where else in the world where else in the world would you want to be? Hey, want to go get a steak? Nope. Would you like to have a million dollar car?
No. Would you like to be on a beat? Nope. Where do you want to be?
Right here. Right here. Are there a girl behind the gym? Are there a girl behind the gym?
Are there a girl behind the gym? Are there a girl behind the gym? I like to be on the gym. They're all behind the gym.
They're all behind the gym. They're all behind the gym. Oh. Do any of them look like Diva Gontin?
I don't know. Well, I can't. I'm going to go. They're pretty.
There's a lot of pretty girls in this and beautiful, wonderful, wonderful bodies. So many bodies. I think I need a vagina in my bed beside my bed. Look at that.
You go watch desire and then have a conversation with Donas. Yeah. Oh, look. No, no, no, no.
I didn't mean he participate. I didn't mean Donas participate to the body. I just mean he sits in the closet and feels good about watching me have a vagina. And this is how we derail folks.
We got to go. Bye. All right. Happy vaginas.
We'll see you guys on the next big show. Ow. Ow. Get up.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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