Everybody loves vaginas vaginas. That's what we love. Yeah, they're wonderful. I love them It's not it's not just for breakfast anymore.
Oh, it's an all day snack I was going down to woman last night. It was very interesting I was literally just going to ask you when was the last time you thought about being with a woman because it has been a long time for you Very long time. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Like not even kissing or will you play before you you? Yeah, I've played with woman. I played with cat Yeah, right, right, right.
Okay, so so but you haven't had uh, any fingers in your pinky Or uh, no, no, it's been a long while. It's got a bunch of at least seven eight years. Yeah, really that long Yeah, that long. Yeah when I was still with my polyaxes, so Okay, so you're starting to get that seven year A little bit of a little seven year itch there going on there Guess it had to make sense.
You know, there's a certain amount of time that goes by and uh, it's time that goes by get it by Yeah, because that's the way the man we should start show One two three four. Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? Scared that your desires might be strange I'm coming join the kinky world of play Hello and welcome to perverted podcast the show where we explore the adventures of the human mind sex and Whether or not pat girls gonna get her mouth on a vejj anytime soon Record your cow boogie and recording on send castor where I've been enjoying my weekend being upside down and it's not because it's suspension Really? I'm pat girl.
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Of course is a stranger things junkie and it just dropped so uh See the final season just dropped so i'm glad the first four episodes See the duffer brothers and all their infinite wisdom and especially Netflix They're dropping the first four episodes drop night before Thanksgiving the next three drop on christmas day And the last one drops on new years eve so stretching you out a little bit. Well, yeah, yeah, but it's oh my god So that of course means poor doneness is penis has not gotten any attention No, um, it is not but not just because um, it's just been he's been in retail hell because he works in retail and up until thanksgiving was like hell For him. So he's actually he actually told me uh yesterday or two days ago. He's like on saturday.
I am not doing fucking anything It's like I'm good at rest. So but you know now that he has to work today, but I might decide to pounce on him now that that life's back to normal Yeah, I'd say some pouncing some good pouncing you had a good placing last time in the And uh, you know, it's time for some pouncing and uh, let's get back to the the female thing Yes for just a sec because now you're having dreams it's starting to come to now then when you have sex dreams Are preferred to podcast listeners and and of course I want to know um because my sex dreams always end poorly Like it's always like it gets there and i'm doing things to them and you know, and then they fall in half or you know a monster It's like it's always fucking something or I wake up like right like because i'm so excited I just wake up Which and then you're like no Let me get back to let me get back to so how are your sex dreams when you have a sex dream? Well, it really depends. I mean there happen times I've woken up from sex dreams and I've kind of almost like orgasms in my sleep where it's kind of like oh that was a nice thing to wake up to The dream I had last night was really weird because I was having sex with a woman the night before my wedding Oh, and and it was like daughter's knew about and he was fine about it But like like the next day in the dream of the wedding like everything was going wrong Like my ex sister.
Amal was there is my me my maid of honor My my bouquet fell apart in my hands. They were playing the wrong music and i'm yelling to the DJ No, please this song is so is a really it started out really nice where uh, there's this nice little goffee girl That was in bed with me and she was sitting on top of my face and it was just I was oh She's tasted so good from what I remember in the dream, but it was just it started out great And then like I said, I guess I guess it ended weird, but it was just like Brad you was guilt bet you brought Jewish guilt into the goddamn wedding day You couldn't just have a little a little girl fling the day before all of a sudden you're like, oh my god I have to I have to sit shiva through my own wedding No, but I mean like in the dream donnas was new about it and it was always good Well, it was somebody that I was familiar with it wasn't somebody I recognized out of the dream But it was somebody like oh hey, this is a friend of mine and she's like you want to have some fun I'm like sure I mean as you should say yes, yes, and I do remember I do remember fingering her So she was loving it because she was squealing about it. Oh, yeah, it might be time to you know, pursue that a little bit Maybe a little bit well, I mean go slow obviously you've been working up towards this for a long time But you know obviously have a discussion with donnas and maybe just start with some you know Like a little play with maybe some petting and fingers and kissing and see how that goes And then get that do you have a strap on still? Uh, yes, I actually have two and actually now that I've lost weight that probably fit a hell of a lot better Some to look forward to all right good.
I like it Alright, pal girl. Yes, this is it. We're gonna dig into this and I don't know how well you know me But you probably know that I'm not going to be super dom supportive on this one Find these by the way, where it's just like holy crap. I'm like, what?
Here's what's good about this And this is why these topics are very very good Especially for for newer people if you're newer to perverted podcasts And you haven't been through all the 3000 discussions that we've had these are important discussions because they're really good Because this is what you do when you're new is you get into relationships and you're trying out dynamics whether you're dominant or submissive And when you don't know things things like this are like, oh, this is normal Because I don't know any better and and it can literally ruin your kink experience Yeah, it can literally make you go. Oh, this is how it is then fuck this I don't want to do this and that's why it's so important to have podcasts and be in groups and get that information to find out that like Man, maybe sometimes things aren't the best way or it's good to recognize these things Right, and so this is going to be one of those topics and And and it starts off kind of I think it's funny because I used to be a massage practitioner And so I totally get uh, what's going on here and the poster who identifies kind of I guess it was like a male submissive And he says I don't enjoy giving my damei massages Which I thought just the title was funny to me because massages are it hurts your hands? You know, it can't be you know, it can't be good What the title says they're not a limit for me. They're not physically painful or mentally distressing I just really don't enjoy them.
Okay. I used to only give them occasionally and now they're a regular thing because obviously your damei's like, oh, this is I like this. This is great for massage Um, we recently had a discussion where I admitted that I don't enjoy massaging her Okay, here comes here comes. I'm just gonna take a breath She wants me to be honored to massage her and to be happy that this gives her pleasure I said I'm happy that it does but it doesn't mean I like the act of giving massages I liken it to cleaning the house you like living in a clean house But that doesn't mean that you enjoy the act of cleaning you'd rather be able to snap your fingers and have everything clean So there is a happiness at the end, you know, it's just the actual act the chore.
Yeah, the chore of it isn't you know, oh my god Um, I'm in chastity. So he says I'm in chastity Which means he has some sort of cage around his junk and that she's the key holder And she said that she's going to stop teasing me which she knows is my favorite part Until I'm happier to give massages I Didn't think I can be I'm willing to give massages when told to but it's just not an act that brings me pleasure Right now he tries to justify this and that pisses me off too because he shouldn't be having to do this yet Neither of us is angry when we discuss this I was scoffing and she was laughing about it half the time I think part of her is amused by the whole thing, but she is serious about the teasing stopping until my mindset changes Uh Okay I just look This is this is the difference between dominance for real real and somebody who is a fantasy dominant Um, and I usually let you start, but I'm going to say a couple things first. Yes Um, she sounds like a dick. Yeah, she sounds like a complete dick She does not want and I've been around these people and I have to get them away from me I had a 25 year relationship with somebody and and in the dynamic I always talked but then you know in friendship and you know the times we weren't together in the years We weren't whatever she was this part and I finally I couldn't be around it She doesn't want a real human partner or a submissive.
She wants a mindless worshipper. Yes. She wants a fantasy This is like that tyrannical narcissist ego kind of thing that I want a dumb person That is so enamored with me That is so in love with me that my farts give them joy to just say oh my god anything with you It could be the most horrible thing the most painful I would give my life for you a worshipper A worshipper and there are male dominance like this and there are obviously as we hear female dominance like this So it's not a male female thing But it is a it is a red flag that this person doesn't want a human And they don't want to submissive because submission isn't always doing things you like sometimes part of the dynamic is the fact That you're submissive is struggling through something But they're doing it because they want to be of service to you because they want to do these things So that's that's my first observation I'm going to let you go and then then we'll do some ways around this and how to deal with this and whatever but Sounds like a dick. Yeah.
Yeah, and and again on the submissive side There have been plenty of times not in my current relationship with donnes But there have been times I have had to do things that I don't particularly like but I know my partner likes So I will go ahead and enthusiastically do it because I know it brings them pleasure And but at the same time they're not being a dick about it going you know Hey, I know you don't like give me massage just but give me one anyway There's been plenty of times out of the scene when it's done. They're like hey I know you really don't like doing that but I really enjoyed it. So thank you You know, I mean if there's a little bit of something on the back end like basically like hey Thanks for doing that or wow you I feel so relaxed now If there's a little gratitude at the end of it then it might be worth it But she's just turning around and basically going no, you're gonna do because I said so and I you're gonna love You're gonna love and you're gonna love it and uh So let me ask you a question to go back in to to to when you said there were things that you didn't like as a submissive Is there a certain sense of accomplishment and kind of a rush which I've heard endlessly that when you don't like something and when something is a challenge That it gives you even more of a sense of that submission because you don't like it It's I mean, I guess a sense of accomplishment I mean, it's also like I like it kind of almost like I could push that I don't like it feeling aside because I'm seeing them bringing bringing them pleasure So I kind of like focus on that because maybe the accomplishment wasn't the right the right word but keep going But yeah, it's it's it's basically like I know I'm giving them pleasure So it's kind of like that that that feeds into like oh cool I'm you know my little submissive wishy, but like oh they really like that kind of thing Um, it's you know, but I mean like for them to kind of rub it in my face and go You're gonna do it anyway, you know, basically like in the drill song you're gonna do it. You're gonna like it And I'm going to take away your favorite thing that you love until you somehow change your brain Yeah, you have your mindset what she is asking him to do is literally you are going to not be a human being anymore with likes or dislike You're going to have to now just figure it out.
Yeah, you're gonna have to figure out how to like this Or I'm not gonna do the thing that you like the best. Yeah, yeah, that's that's fucked up I mean, there's been plenty of times like I've been in a scene and like, you know, I'll negotiate all my toys before scene But then like there's somebody bring out a cane and I love caning but at the same time it fucking hurts And I'll see them like break out the cane and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, and they're like, well No, you said you want to use it and I'd be like, you know, I know I'm gonna get to where I want to be with it But at the same time it's like no, I don't want it but I kind of want it so I just don't understand why she's being such a bitch about this and she wants worshippers Well, yeah, and it's just like, you know part of a dynamic whether it be dominant Swiss at top bottom even even master sleep There's care for the slave afterwards where it's just basically like hey You insert something you're really fucking hate and I appreciate you for it and I'm gonna reward you for you know what I mean It's just like she's just basically like give everything to me We've talked about like pleasure doms where it's basically like a submissive goes give me everything give me everything This is the opposite where it's like, you know, she wants a pleasure sub like I'm gonna take everything I want and fuck your feelings Yeah, yeah I'm gonna take a take a breath because once again, we read we don't know her side of the story. Sure. Even though she sounds like a dick Complete dick, but uh, we don't know all the things and maybe she's just a bad communicator And maybe this is hiding in a lot of insecurity, you know that the reason what is the reason that she Wants worshipers mindless worshipers is it because she has a lot of insecurities herself?
Is it your job to address those insecurities with her? Obviously we're going to wind up Spoiler alert for the end of that work obviously going to at some point say you have to talk to her honestly about this If she was and I'm once again true dominant real dominant best dominant my suggestion for this would be If she was a more legitimate practicing dominant in ethical whatever we do she would be Not just working on making you like it But working with your mindset about what the service means to you So it doesn't matter if you like it or not, but it's are we working on the mindset of you having service towards me What is that mean for you? Am I encouraging you? Am I building you up?
Am I giving you a payoff like you talked about For that service not even just aftercare or a cookie or a favorite treat, but am I validating your need to be of service? So I can understand that like even if you like doing something the fact that somebody says to you Hey, I know you like cleaning houses, but I'm still gonna say thank you for it I'm still gonna give you a reward or a treat or something for it But like this guy's getting absolutely nothing out of it and it's just I now Part of me is like he needs to talk with her outside the bedroom Yeah, but especially with with a with a dom with a dom with a dom you know subs Where it's just like it's gotta be respectful, but I just don't know with this woman It's just it's just like it seems like she's just wants like a pleasure sub and just like fuck your feelings Which once again if you're in that scenario and that is upfront That this is what I want because there's a lot of humiliation There's a lot of humiliation subs out there that part of why that where they get off is that they make you feel like nothing And that your needs are not important and there are submissive types that do Want to be female worshipers or dominant worshipers And and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. This is a perfect match for you But when you're somebody that's like, hey, I also kind of want to be treated like a person This does not work for you and the fact that this person is now going to punish you For not liking something even though you do it.
You do it. Well, you put in that effort because you know it gives them pleasure I just can't see how you know Uh, I'm trying to get my thoughts because I have so many things to say and I and I can't get frustrated and hate because yeah This This can be fixed But if she's stuck on this worship or thing that whole you have to change your mindset as if that's a possibility you can Work with somebody. Yeah, that doesn't like something and once you really show them what it means to you as the dominant Once you really show them hey, this is important because this helps my bigger picture like when I've had submissives And they've helped with the show that we've had for 10 years They I explain it to them that hey when you help me do this or we help put these things up or set up the chairs or whatever You are a part of my bigger picture of service to the rest of the world Because that's what we do here. I am a I am in service It doesn't make me feel offended to say as a dominant that I'm in service I'm in service to the audience of perverted podcast to give them information and help them Hopefully have more options and opinions in their lives And if I make my submissive understand the importance of that mission that's bigger than me Then that may change their headspace around the things that they're doing for me because it's for a bigger purpose Right, and it's not just that makes sense.
Yeah, no, and I was actually gonna ask that because you can take it Let's put this in a normal healthy quote-unquote dominant submissive top and bottom You can have something that you don't like doing like for example I've entertained the idea with previous dominance that I've had about exercise Absolutely hate to exercise, but I know I need to do it because it not only helps my mental health my physical health There have been people I've known that have used like hey, can you help me get into a regular exercise pattern? And it's just basically the dominance holding the submissive accountable like basically you're gonna do 10 sit-ups a day You're gonna do 10 push-ups whatever the exercise regimen is and there's accountability there and there's true punishments And even with you know, and then obviously you get the rewards of wow you did 10 setups today or whatever it is I'm gonna we're gonna do a scene for five minutes. You can break that dislike sometimes not all the time You can break that dislike of the activity by basically conditioning yourself for all right If I do this really hard thing, I'm gonna get something for it And then eventually you get to the hey my body looks better Hey, I feel better what have you and that kind of even feed into the the good feelings But that's in a normal healthy relationship whereas this is just not healthy at all Yeah, I'm with you on the fact that that it can build it doesn't you're not gonna change a like or a dislike I mean, there's some things maybe you acquire a taste for it Then you enjoy the process of doing it But that really shouldn't be mandatory and you shouldn't have some pressure in your head from somebody telling you you had because it's not gonna happen You must it's like saying okay, you have to like eating a pile of dog shit You know, it's like I don't think I'm ever gonna like that And I don't I don't want to do that That was a really gross analogy Somebody's king somewhere Somebody's like well, I'll do it. I'll do it.
I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it.
I'll do it So it's uh There's something for everybody But I think the if you build up the idea of the service You can actually find more intimacy in that process of going into the massage and going this is what it does for me When I get massaged by you because I it's not just getting a massage you can go pay for a massage I used to do it professionally. Um, but it's getting it from you actually makes me feel More dominant. It makes me feel more cared for it makes me felt more built up by you. You are enhancing my life There's so much positive reinforcement that can go and then for me It would be like when when I had submissive and I gave them tasks that I knew they didn't enjoy For me that was just I felt more honored.
I felt more worthy. I felt I felt more built up I felt I felt like this person cares enough about me To do something for me in service even though they don't really like it for me. That was way hotter Yeah, you know and you gave them recognition for that's a different. Yeah, there was yeah, there's surely going to be you know validation and Funishments not punishments.
Um, but uh, yeah, so I think there's definitely ways that this could be better if you're in this relationship But if but at face value, this isn't a working relationship This is somebody who wants a worshipper and they want to change your brain They want you to literally just it's like those movies where gods are like you worship me You know and that just comes from a narcissism which could be based in dark insecurities and I Oh, you got to get away from it. You know after a certain amount of time You're like this person doesn't care about people they care about themselves and they everything's yeah. I gotta go Yeah, yeah, good luck bro Get the key back to your cage and find a dominant that uh that allows you to think for your fucking self And gives you the recognition you deserve dammit. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yes Then good girl shouldn't touch Hello perverted podcast What that's my new uh Squeeze box.
Oh, I was gonna say it first. I thought it was a harmonica, but then you started talking and I'm like, oh my god Come on just throw down throw down some kinky. Uh, let's let's get you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is I want to warn all the ladies that this will make you come up.
Just so you know, hey, I'm thank god i'm a male It's just the ladies You have mastered that believe they're not not a single lesson. Oh my god You're like a prodigy. Thank you a squeeze box prodigy I my fingering is pretty good pretty good. Very good.
Finger in on the old squeeze box there Oh the tingles. I uh, yeah, I felt that in my taint. I mean I don't have a vagina, but uh, you know, it was that was it's hard It Played it on a well, I I I thought about it with the scene we're gonna talk about and uh it made her come I put it right next to her vagina. Yeah, yeah, you can't well people don't understand this and we'll get into our segment in a second But vibrations are a real thing.
Obviously, you know, you amp that up you now have a hot Vibrations will transfer through the air and you can make someone come with it and uh, so why not why not a squeeze box? Why not? Um, just the vision of you my repertoire just the vision of you in clown makeup Leaning an inch away from a vagina Going I don't know. I I just see that as being a fantastic inclusion to your repertoire of uh, shenanigans I want to I want to talk quickly about shenanigans because we're we're keeping it.
We're keeping it. We're keeping it tight But um, I I just have to say this because I got a test I got a text from you and uh, let me get my Let me get my copy because I'm going to savor this this moment. I'm I'm going to get my decaf. Yeah, I'm gonna uncle creepy-had Was it your first threesome?
Uh first one that I care to talk about Yeah, I had myself a M f f threesome and It is I mean, how do you describe what are the best days of your life? Um, I do admit that uh, the two girls said that I Orchestrated it, okay, which I deny I believe they were lusting for each other long before I got my creepy tendrils in there Um, there was a moment in which I did play them against because I was smacking up with my toys in the living room And then when they would grab it away, I ran to the bedroom to grab more toys and eventually they learned to come into the bedroom to stop me and that's Ah, okay, so there was there was some guiding there was some uh teasing there was a little uh Gentle manipulation they just gentle uncle creepy manipulation where I basically stuffed one's face into mina's face Actually, I'm pretty sure I can mention her name. Um, she's bright red next to me right right? I call her animagus, but she was by Annie.
Oh great. Great. I stuffed her face and mean is pussy and Yeah, yeah, I would definitely say at that point you're uh slightly upscaled in the instigation Once you physically take a person's head and mounted into the mound vagina of another that would definitely you've now stepped over into the yeah, you ought to pardon this Yeah, I worked it. Um, but let me say mina.
She did not need any any any push She got in there and I did not see her face rise up. There was a glistening uh little What does that be a poon rise a poon rise came up for air the jison The front of a jison from the vision of the vijison Let's just say there was some fresh mountain dew and you know and I I was wheezing my way in and out and between the two of them inserting finger In talking all that good stuff. That's amazing. That is it is it is an amazing thing to do and You know, I have so many things that I could say about this other than it's just fun when you have everyone in the bed And everyone's into each other and it just becomes very playful and free and uh If they're if I believed in a god, I would believe that god would would have everyone experience Uh multiple partner sex Because it is win it.
I mean, it's a lot of responsibility Especially if there's a dynamic where there's a top and then two bottoms Um because you have responsibilities you have things you have to do you're orchestrating and you have to make sure things keep going and you know There's there's definitely you can't just it's not like the the fantasy where it's like yeah, they're just gonna sit there and i'm gonna pluck Um, you know, uh, there's that's there's work that's interesting, but yeah, you got it. There's there's work in Boys, oh, yeah, you got it you have to keep the things going and then and kind of know when to back away Especially when the the two are getting into each other and they're having a moment like you back out You know, maybe you just pet you know, you're just doing some petting or whatever or steak Or sometimes just pick up a guitar or your little squeeze box and sit at the edge of the bed and uh, let them Yeah, let them. Yeah serenade serenade and entertain but uh, I am an atmospheric creator That that's exactly we create an environment that makes them comfortable enough to feel that freedom And then we get to partake in uh in some in some orgasms Yeah, that is that is awesome and everyone had a good time and seems to want to be there again That's the thing is it a rip thumbs up. Yeah, I'm getting thumbs up.
Um, it yeah, I'm pretty sure it will be a repeat We were gonna do something yesterday, but um after the party we were beat bogey just to segue into uh scene creation into atmosphere creation Um, I had the christmas party at the nccroft. Um, the game permission to mention them. Um, it's one of our local dungeons here. Um, I I did a forced christmas tree clown scene.
Oh with a with a cute little um I mean, how do you grab her pain slut like? Oh, pacicus. Yeah, yeah, um, so we negotiated. Uh, we would talk for a while.
We were supposed to do this back in october Um, I brought her to the club or she brought herself to the club. I brought her over to the spanking bench. Um, tighter up with tinsel Thank you for your advice on that I added some balloons. I draped the tinsel over her.
Um, I got some battery powered christmas lights again. Thank you for that Um, draped him over her. Um, and then um, I tied her hands down after I opened I made her open the toys I was gonna use I wrapped them in presents and made her open them. Oh nice.
Nice. Yeah And and she got to see what I was gonna hit her with. Um, And then I tied her tits with balloons. I tied her arms down with balloons.
I draped christmas lights over Um, then I beat her tits and thighs for a while. She got a little little sore and mony. Um, and then I held her back and I painted a clown face on her And then I did that I that I drew a christmas tree on her with little little christmas lights Um, and then at the end of the scene because she was a good girl. Um, I printed out this goofy looking star that she wanted on my 3D printer And put it on her head.
So, you did it. Yeah, she was objective fights in the end. Yeah, uh That is a lot of prep. I mean that this is this is I got to point this out because this show is going to be basically beat up on the Don beat up on the sub show.
This is that's apparently what the show is. But I want to point out that this is one of the things that's fun You know because you put in a lot of prep to this and that's what makes this lifestyle so fun Is that it's not just about fucking or just about spanking but like if you really allow your creativity to come out Like this is amazing with the star and the wrapping the toys up his presents and all the stuff that you put in There's so much fun in that creativity and when you're doing that for somebody and they see all of this effort that you're putting in for them You know that just I mean intimacy and connection Just they they really come from effort, you know in any relationship, but in this in particular It's just so fun to hear how much work you put in and that it just pays off Yeah, she she loved it. She messaged me about how she enjoyed it. Um, she checked in this morning.
She's doing great. Um, and uh, yeah Typical uncle creepy. I was just like oh fuck. She's gonna hate this I failed.
I didn't do this. I didn't do this. I should have done this and then Yeah, and then well, I'm you know I'm in the zone and I'm hitting her and beating her and everything and then my partners after the fact I like everybody's laughing enjoying it and fucking I did some pretty good scenes yesterday. All right.
That is amazing. You are a prolific squeeze box clown-making motherfucker So, uh, uh, very proud and uh preferred podcasted gmail.com if you want to be part of uncle creepy's new magic hassle in uh, north Carolina, uh, but let's get on to uh, topic now that we've what because it's funny like I mentioned before that the I guess the dichotomy between uh People that uh put in a lot of effort and then people that maybe are a little off on their dominance subbing Uh seems to be the theme of the show I got one and I don't want to beat up on this kid because he's young he's excited or whatever But I am gonna we beat up on the dawn before now we're gonna beat up on the sub a little bit So it's how can I surprise my girlfriend D different dominant as a sub question mark And then he's like oh, this is a throwaway account because she has my normal reddit My question is basically what the title says. I want to give her a surprise But I'm kind of new to this and I don't really know what to do as a sub My main idea involves self bondage like maybe I send her out of the room and when she comes back I would be tied up for her Any thoughts? Yeah, just yeah, yeah, I I have a thought what is she going to go?
I read this And I knew exactly I was like oh boogie's gonna have this very specific answer and I'm pretty sure it involves steak and peanut butter and jelly I'm I know I'm going to surprise my dominant with the thrill and honor of doing to me what I want What a great idea. I'm not gonna ask her what she wants as a dominant I'm gonna tie my fucking self-asseller. I'm gonna send the dominant out of the room. Okay, get out dominance Go stand in the hallway for 20 minutes while I tie myself up And then I'll call for you to come and fucking do when I'm ready to play with me I'm so so ready to do what I said.
I'm here's all the toys that I want you to be surprised to play with me with Yeah, so Go I go I just there's my rant we're gonna get into it and it's innocent But once again, maybe the surprise for the dominant would be to ask them what they want to do or let them do it Like you're not gonna let her tie you up You're not gonna make like a thing where you like oh pull the grab bag and oh bondage this Oh now you can tie me up, you know or whatever, you know, it's like I'm gonna do all the things and then you should just be surprised This is what a great happy birthday mr. S Jesus fucking Christ. I see where he's going. I get it, but yeah, I do want to pick on him just a smidge more Um, I think this term is called topping from the bottom kind of yeah Yeah, it seems to come up a lot with me I have I I think it's just a brats resting mode is to tell you what you need to do to them Right or when they when they try and be slick and it's like oh, I'll bet you can't hit me with my favorite paddle Bitch, I know exactly what you're trying to do like you can't fight Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at somebody in this room.
So I I like where he's he's going. I feel the enthusiasm. I appreciate this But my my suggestion for this one and I thought about it is why not sit down with her way before all of this Right put down in a little jar right down all the things that like are kinky and freaky that she decides throw him in this little jar And it's like oh my god happy birthday Let's pick from the jar and maybe it's some like different edge player Maybe it's right a different thing and then let them build that scene to that way they could be like okay I know exactly what I want to do for this you sit right here on the bed I'm gonna tie your ass down. I'm gonna beat your cock to oblivion and then you're gonna please me, you know, oh what what what?
That's not a surprise. I like Surprise surprise get to work motherfucker. How about that for surprise go watch my fucking car How about that? That'd be a nice surprise.
How about make me something to eat? That's not a surprise no, it's a surprise that you actually want to fucking give a fuck about me Oh great submissive. Sorry. I'm just be I'm being a dick.
I know I get it. I get it It's it's there. It's funny. Um, but at the same time like our dynamic is different from there So a lot of the times you see this come through and I I think it's a more commonality here where a lot of people are just like more trying to be more precious with the gift of submission Right.
I like it. I like it. I enjoyed the power exchange But if you're if you're giving me that power, I'm going to do what I want with it. Yeah, that's that's your pleasure from it That's the power exchange and there's nothing wrong with Once again, service topping is a is a normal part of thing Like I love doing things for my partners that I know they love because I want to be a king I want to be a star and I want Obviously I want the person that I care about to like me and like enjoy the things that I do to them There are of course times where as a dominant you are like this is going to be about me I'm going to keep control because sometimes just like we talked about in the last segment submission doesn't mean doing everything that you like That's not what submission is submission in nature as we talked about many times Usually comes from some sort of fight and reluctance to submit I'm doing this because it's a challenge.
I'm doing this because I don't necessarily like doing this And I know that that fulfills a need of my dominant and in that power exchange There is surrender and that there are all the other emotional and intimate things that we talk about in this lifestyle that don't come from I love Everything so of course, it's great if you love most of the things that your dominant loves to do to you That's a great connection and if there's too many things that your dominant loves that you don't love then you're gonna have an imbalance and it's not gonna be fun And it's not gonna be fulfilling for you But there does need to be a little bit of that give and take because you're kind of missing out on some of the deeper Headspaces in submission when it's things that are actually kind of a challenge for you when it's things that you don't necessarily It's not your favorite thing. Yeah, then you know, and I've Felt that on the more dominant side as like well, they don't really like this So I'm just gonna keep doing things they like and I like I like the heavy spanking and they don't like it And it's it's become a challenge for me to find that balance between You know doing what they want and what I want because I feel sometimes that you know, I just want to keep doing what they want So, you know, I don't know They like me better or they enjoy the play more, you know that kind of when it comes to a point to where I feel Like I have a thing that I feel that it's it's like an icky kind of feeling Then I don't go to that point I mean I did obviously my younger days I was a big people pleaser and I'm like, oh, I wanted to love me because I didn't feel valuable And I didn't feel like I deserved to be cared about and I didn't deserve to be valued So I was constantly and it was disastrous because chicks just gets you know, women Men anyone that is looking for dominant energy It becomes very bored very quickly with somebody that is now just pleasing you Because they don't feel that intensity. They don't feel that I'm being taken They don't feel like the prey they don't feel like this person is taking charge of me Because I can tell them whatever I want and they'll do it. There's not a dynamic There's not a power exchanger and for people that are looking for that power exchange on the submissive end If the dominant is constantly just like what do you want?
I'll just do anything you want That just literally turns them off If it's a scene where everyone's like switching and you do some to me and I do some to you and then the dynamic switches That's one thing But for people that are looking for an actual dynamic If you are a giant pussy dominant that just does whatever the bottom does They're actually gonna fucking leave because that's not what they want They want if that's what you've negotiated on the first one Yeah, obviously you're gonna you know, everything's gotta be negotiated But if you if you're too much of a giver In that dynamic with somebody that wants somebody to take You have to learn how to take you have to learn how to have the confidence to say I want this and I'm gonna take this and I'm gonna bend you over and do what the fuck I want to do And if you have a safe word we've negotiated the safe word. We've negotiated what your limits are blah blah blah But once we've done that I'm gonna take control now because I'm the fucking dominant and if I'm constantly giving I just feel like That's not what I want to be And you know in this new relationship, I've been trying to take more um, I I learned with her to Except that she this is what she wants. This is even though I am causing her physical pain. She enjoys And um, she said to me yesterday at the thing.
She's like, yeah, I was getting beaten. I came three times I was like wait, what you can do that that's a thing. So what a crime Would have absolute horrible crime god. This I can't believe she didn't share that Why are you not sitting shiva right now with a black veil over your fucking head?
Sorry Oh, yeah, but I'm saying like it's it's that that that ability that you get with different experiences to recognize What you can take and how you can take it and getting to that point of submission that That I want and being able to provide that give and take has been my journey as of late with both mina and my new partner And so and what's great about that is it's going to be I mean for me The fun part is that it's completely different with every partner It's it's completely everyone has their own wants needs desires limits And so every time you have a new partner. It's it's a whole new thing to learn It's a whole new experience of getting to know this person individually and finding that balance with each individual And that's one of the things that goes back to threesomes that is so exciting about a threesome Is you have two uniquely dynamic individuals if you're the if you're the dominant in a threesome You have two uniquely dynamic individuals and your job isn't just to keep things going It's to keep things going understanding the differences that they each have because now you're going to be including that in them Playing with each other and you playing with both of them This one likes a lot of pain this one likes almost no pain So I have to be completely on and I've had this multiple times Whereas somebody has very specific needs that they don't like what the other person likes and that makes it both exciting and challenging Is to because I now have to emotionally where I'm like very aggressive predatory with this person Then I have to literally turn seconds later to this person because they're a different person and I think Ultimately, that's the most fun because it makes you more connected to kind of the humanity of it I don't know if that sounds a little pretentious or stupid No, I think it does and it ties back to the topic where you know You can trust that your dominant will be able to accept these gifts but but at least understand that You can surrender to them and they're still having a good time. Yeah, and I think that this person can do that with You know trusting their dominant to not be bored with them and that their surprise is a continuous Level of submission and and and those kind of goals will will help you move forward with these Needs of surprise and stuff and what you can do for your dominant I think that's a great point and and obviously the excitement of wanting to surprise the dog Just crack me up on it. I'm gonna write it.
Yeah, it's just you said that to me. I was like, oh, yeah It's it's the it's trust trust. You know in a BDSM kink dynamic surprise Is a very loaded thing Surprise can go very very good or very very bad very very easily So because you're like surprise knife play. Oh, by the way, I didn't tell you I have trauma with knives because somebody Put a knife to my throat when I was younger and now I'm in a middle of a complete panic attack freak out and need to You're now traumatizing me or yeah, so surprise is in kink when you are new be very careful about that When you do a surprise know the person better before you and sometimes it's once again, it's very innocent I mean there was a there was a dominant.
I used to know very well. We should spend on the show Um called a gravel tits and she talked about Surprise, you know, they were on a they were on a cruise and uh and she they didn't have something to beat him with and she just grabbed an extension cord And beat him with the extension cord and within three minutes. He lost his mind Crying freaking out whatever like this is, you know, okay, we just improvised and I just grabbed this and he was into it But he had forgotten that that's how he was abused as a child is is that or whatever used to pull an extension cord out of the wall and beat him senseless with it and so well surprises in you know So I I do a lot of fear play and that involves surprises, but how I get by it is I pre-empt the surprise So maybe weeks before I'd be like, oh, what do you think about knives at your throat? Right, right, right, right holding a knife really close to your eyeball That's how I I get that prior consent of like, you know, hey, I'm gonna have rubber chicken shoved up your ass You know, and it's then they're like, oh shit.
Yeah, I you know, that's that I had a former partner who did that and they they only spit on it Right, right, right. So that's how I get by with that that's so so it's it's a surprise because it's a surprise in the moment And it's exciting in the moment because I think that's that's where we're going Have a lot of options and you talked about this before which was great have a lot of options Beforehand screen those options and then the surprises you don't know which which ones But it's still really good surprise. Yeah, it's still it's still a surprise, but you know Because it's fun to try shit because there's that excitement that you don't know what's gonna happen But man, it's when we're playing with people's minds as well as their bodies It can go really bad It can go really bad not even and not intentionally So if you're going to do things that are complete surprises You need to negotiate what to do in case the thing i'm surprising you with isn't gonna work that it's totally okay We're gonna try some things there this may be shocking or surprising or whatever you have your safe word. I will respect it I will not be disappointed.
You know, we're gonna, you know, I don't know the word surprise is uh, see me go bad I've seen it just go bad. So like what is this? Fuck uh, but a good topic and and I hope yeah Uh, and I did pitch a little bit in the comments section Um and make some jokes. I go for you I haven't gone back and checked, you know, and I said well, maybe she wants to tie you up dumbass You know, I didn't I wasn't mean I felt mean but I understood it was innocent and so I said well Maybe letting her be in charge of some things would be more of a surprise than her right doing things to just you you greedy bottom piece of shit What i'm sorry I'm old and scarred.
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