46: Henson Perspective: Guest-starring Ben Vereen

Broadway dancer and actor Ben Vereen is the Muppet Show's guest this week, and so  Pete and (a totally different) Ben delve into Vereen's show-biz controversies. They also discuss how they are quick to anger about flag etiquette, that they are confused about the appropriateness of the phrase, "hep to the jive", and that there might be a benefit to leaving in the noises of a squeaky chair.