EPISODE · Jun 9, 2026 · 58 MIN
#476 Dr Mike T. Nelson - Stop Doing Zone 2 and Start Doing Zone 3 Cardio
from Lift Free And Diet Hard with Andrew Coates · host Andrew Coates
Dr Mike T. Nelson returns to set the fitness industry ablaze with the claim that Zone 2 cardio is overrated and not particularly effective for most people.Mike goes into detail on:Why he feels Zone 3 cardio is substantially more effective and efficient than Zone 2What the evidence and research says about Zone 2 and Zone 3The cardiovascular adaptations actually happening in Zone 2 and Zone 3What Zone 3 cardio should look and feel likeMike’s 6-minute Zone 3 training protocolWhy step count is still importantShould most lifters worry about the interference effectMike’s thoughts on The Enhanced GamesDoes high-dose creatine help when sleep deprivedAnd much moreInstagram: @drmiketnelsonCHAPTERS00:50 Why Skip Zone 202:42 Zone 3 For Lifters05:01 General Population Reality06:42 Elite Athlete Context12:02 Is Zone 2 Still Useful15:18 Walking, Steps, and Longevity23:30 Zone 3 Talk Test26:56 The 6-Minute Protocol27:52 VO2 Max Interval Planning29:15 Pacing and RPE32:37 Interference Effect Basics35:46 Women and Cardio Myths41:25 Intensity vs Adaptations44:35 The Enhanced Games Debate53:27 Creatine for Sleep LossSUPPORT THE SHOWIf this episode helped you better understand cardio, conditioning, or performance, you can support the show by:Subscribing and checking out more episodesSharing it on social media (tag me and I’ll respond)Sending it to someone who thinks cardio has to mean long, slow sessionsFOLLOW ANDREW COATESInstagram: @andrewcoatesfitnesshttps://www.andrewcoatesfitness.comPARTNERS AND RESOURCESRP Strength App (use code COATESRP)https://www.rpstrength.com/coatesJust Bite Me Meals (use code ANDREWCOATESFITNESS for 10% off)https://justbitememeals.comMacrosFirst – FREE Premium TrialDownload MacrosFirst and during setup select ANDREWKNKG Bags (15% off)https://www.knkg.com/Andrew59676Versa Grippshttps://www.versagripps.com/andrewcoatesTRAINHEROIC – FREE 90-Day Trialhttps://www.trainheroic.com/liftfreeReply to the email you receive (or email [email protected]) and let them know Andrew sent you
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Dr Mike T. Nelson returns to set the fitness industry ablaze with the claim that Zone 2 cardio is overrated and not particularly effective for most people.Mike goes into detail on:Why he feels Zone 3 cardio is substantially more effective and efficient than Zone 2What the evidence and research says about Zone 2 and Zone 3The cardiovascular adaptations actually happening in Zone 2 and Zone 3What Zone 3 cardio should look and feel likeMike’s 6-minute Zone 3 training protocolWhy step count is still importantShould most lifters worry about the interference effectMike’s thoughts on The Enhanced GamesDoes high-dose creatine help when sleep deprivedAnd much moreInstagram: @drmiketnelsonCHAPTERS00:50 Why Skip Zone 202:42 Zone 3 For Lifters05:01 General Population Reality06:42 Elite Athlete Context12:02 Is Zone 2 Still Useful15:18 Walking, Steps, and Longevity23:30 Zone 3 Talk Test26:56 The 6-Minute Protocol27:52 VO2 Max Interval Planning29:15 Pacing and RPE32:37 Interference Effect Basics35:46 Women and Cardio Myths41:25 Intensity vs Adaptations44:35 The Enhanced Games Debate53:27 Creatine for Sleep LossSUPPORT THE SHOWIf this episode helped you better understand cardio, conditioning, or performance, you can support the show by:Subscribing and checking out more episodesSharing it on social media (tag me and I’ll respond)Sending it to someone who thinks cardio has to mean long, slow sessionsFOLLOW ANDREW COATESInstagram: @andrewcoatesfitnesshttps://www.andrewcoatesfitness.comPARTNERS AND RESOURCESRP Strength App (use code COATESRP)https://www.rpstrength.com/coatesJust Bite Me Meals (use code ANDREWCOATESFITNESS for 10% off)https://justbitememeals.comMacrosFirst – FREE Premium TrialDownload MacrosFirst and during setup select ANDREWKNKG Bags (15% off)https://www.knkg.com/Andrew59676Versa Grippshttps://www.versagripps.com/andrewcoatesTRAINHEROIC – FREE 90-Day Trialhttps://www.trainheroic.com/liftfreeReply to the email you receive (or email [email protected]) and let them know Andrew sent you
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