It was a time of great desolation for three long weeks our heroes were pelted by familial ties, Tryptophantasia and the holiday shopping season. It was impossible to get together and then the clouds parted and our heroes reunited to bring you the best podcast about the third best DC TV show out there. Folks we are ready, we're rested, we are drinking many many beers and we are definitely straight out of the timeline and right into your ears. I'm Bell.
I'm Kyle. And I'm near on. I'm a legend. It's the legends.
We got to give it to you, man. You called it. You called it. I mentioned his name along with every other magical villain.
It could be. Yeah. That's something. Yeah.
I mean, you throw out enough lures you're going to eventually catch a fish and you kind of just listed them all off. But hey, we'll give it to you. We'll give it to you. Well, I will say this.
Neuron was the one I was hoping for. All right. And I understand this. We'll go through this in speculation.
Like I'm giddy because the 80s and 90s was my DC years and in the mid 90s they had this mini series which you should read on the world on the least where basically this character Neuron, he went to all the villains of the DC universe and offered to make them far more powerful in exchange for their souls. So all of a sudden you've got Blockbuster with a brain which is why he was rolling Desmond in Nightwing was smart. You know, it did. Mr.
Freeze was operating at a much higher level. It was it was really cool. It was a good mini series and he was around for a good 10 to 11 years and then he kind of went away right after day of judgment when Hal became a Spectre. So I'm going to go into it.
But I you know what if it wasn't Felix Faus, I'm glad it was Neuron. Like I would have rather had Felix Faus personally, but I'm glad it's Neuron. Well, it's cool. Yeah.
And you mentioned we've been on a little bit of a hiatus ourselves here and just before the season goes on hiatus for four months. But we do have some good news. The almost at issues and episodes and almost at issues. It's just shows.
What about you? It's just so. It's just so. You know what?
I'm the one drinking. Yeah, I know, right? I just thought I mean I just had a rough day at work. Rough week to work.
Rough like two weeks at work. But yes, my brain is like just rattled. Anyway, anyway, we will be on. Yes.
During the four month long hiatus of Legends, we will be going over the years. The episodes that we missed and we will record episodes for those and we'll put those out and we'll do them live. I'll let you guys know we're going to do it so you can join along and watch us speak incoherently until we edit it up and put it out there. Plus Ross actually wrote reviews for those, but not this one.
We don't have a roster for you today? No, we do not have a roster for you today. I think he was probably like, you mother jokers. Like what the heck is going on?
I'm not right. I'm reviewing going on here. I got better things to do with my time. Well, he said it in a Scottish accent wearing a kilt playing.
I'm going to do that. So what we're going to do is like, oh, okay, so this is what we'll do. We'll record those two episodes. We'll record those two episodes.
We'll record those two episodes. We'll record those two episodes. We'll put them out. And then we'll do a Ross retrospective of this episode whenever he decides to write a review of it.
We'll record that too. That's three episodes. Right. We should just have Ross record his reviews.
We'll just play them. That would be great. That would be great. Although that means I can't butcher his accent, which kind of makes me sad.
My boy parts, but not good. But yeah. So that's, you know, my accompli apologies. We're sorry to have led me for so long.
It was just a nightmare to try to schedule stuff around Thanksgiving and everything popping up and, you know, pour stuff and all these kinds of things. I apologize. And so that's why this episode is going to be really good. We hope because this is a really good episode.
Well, listen, to be quite. To be quite honest, just a Kyle, just pull your headphones off for a second. It was Kyle's fault. He works in retail and it's Christmas.
It's all Kyle's fault. But you're just, wait a second. He works retail during Christmas. That's like, I would wish that death or that fatal might, you know, worst enemy.
Basically, it is, it is people are the worst. Yeah. When it comes to Thanksgiving Christmas, just asking for the most stupidest stuff and thinking that we have it and it's like, no. Go ahead.
I'm going to say, do you have Chrome Hubcaps for a 1972 view of Skylark fighting chance? I wouldn't, I don't work in tires. How many people have asked you if you could go check in the back for something? Oh, I, oh, all the time.
And I go, well, our back is, you can see our back because of the warehouse. So no, I will not go check the back. Yeah, I didn't see it on the shelf. You go look in the back.
There is nothing over in the back. If it was in the back, it could be on the shelf. It's not on there. So it's like there's a pile of stuff.
Yeah, sure. Give me, give me about five minutes and the giant death toll that I have to do to maneuver my lift out onto the floor to get this one thing, this one tiny little box just for you. Yeah, how's everyone doing tonight? I can't even imagine.
I saw a video while we're still on this tangent. I saw this video. It was a Canadian Black Friday sale and they're all walking into the store and a single file line to go to the things that they wanted to go by. And then they parallel it to a literal riot that happened in a Walmart or something of Black Friday in America where people were just punching each other in the faces to get these things that they wanted to buy.
It was, it was absolutely insane. I am. And it was very Canadian. I'm honestly glad that with my, where I work, our Black Friday is not that bad.
We have pre-Black Friday sales and pre-Christmas sales that are worse than that. Okay. But we don't have anyone running and punching and screaming. So there were no fatalities at your stores?
No, but there was blood. Oh, really? Just not that. There has been blood.
There has been. You speak to like Daniel Day Lewis, like standing in front of the door. I'm tricking. I'm tricking.
I'm tricking. I'm tricking. I'm tricking. I'm tricking.
I'm tricking. I'm tricking. I'm tricking. I'm tricking.
I'm tricking. I'm tricking. Well, that's enough for retail TV talking. Well, wait.
Well, Belle, I just have to know, have you finished your shop? Did you buy your lady something nice? I'm going to. I'm going to.
You're going to? Yes. I have not yet. She never, she never.
She asked her what she wants. She's like, I don't want anything. I know you want something. I know you want something.
That's a trap. That's a trap. That's a trap. That's a trap.
And I know she's listening right now. Total traps. You don't want anything. Ok, great.
So for my first anniversary with my ex wife, I bought her an iron and a toaster. And I do believe a waffle iron. Yeah, yeah, that worked that was a cold first anniversary Trap so let me just learn from my mistake trap Yeah, no, I know what I'm gonna get her. I need to order it isn't marijuana.
We don't The thing where you know I'm the same way it's you know, I don't want to buy anything for Christmas I don't particularly care about gifts and gifts giving in things like that. I like to spend time with people that's right about Yeah, I'm with you. Oh, I'm a buyer. I'm like Thanksgiving more than the Christmas, right?
Yeah, yeah I'm the worst. I'm like I've already started buying I've got like five presents for Wendy already We're going shopping Saturday with the kids. She knows what she's getting she knows it So we're gonna get a piano while we're out and but yeah, like no I'll I will spend every single solitary cent I have from the end of November until the first of January. I just broke You know, oh, I can't help it man.
I'm just like yeah, I'm a consumer it's a day as long so I mean What would you guys like? Yeah, well, you know, actually I'm building a house Lego It's Dobo I think is the Mr. Beast video where the guy made a house out of like legos and then he made another one out of boxes It's not like the green jelly video where you know the first little piggy well you never mind Oh Three little pigs by green jello tell your friends yes, yes trust me. It's gotta be on YouTube.
It's hysterically bad Yeah Basically they called out ramble hey wolf face It's clay-basian you got Kyle you need to find this cuz I could tell we have lost you oh I watch it. Oh, you lost me all right. I'll watch it after yeah, we're gonna have an episode on that. Oh, it's beautiful Oh college Yes, so okay, so I think I think I pre-show yeah, our pre-show banter has now run the link of a normal episode So why don't we go ahead and no I was gonna say jump into the rundown.
Yeah, we don't run down there I think it's yeah, I think it's time for history lesson Alright season four episode seven hell no dolly Now this one was directed by April Mullen and it was written by green Godfrey and Morden Faust and Kyle how much else happened this episode? Gladly with Rory and a by Nods Sarah tries to come up with a way for them to get along but always put on hold when a new Magical creature attacks the legends Constantine is forced to confront his tragic past But it could have devastating consequences for the rest of the team Meanwhile Mona has a crush on someone she works with and get some advice from Nate after John screws with history once many times He ends up causing a time wave that leaves Zari change and the rest of the team and suspended animation So yeah, this one this was a really good episode. I thoroughly enjoyed it finally killer dolls. Yeah, yeah, and it's been a minute I mean the last two were okay, but they weren't they they were a little too I think they leaned a little too hard into the legend stick and this one this one had the right balance of like legends Stick and like magic and time travel and all that kind of stuff So yeah, I really enjoyed it thought it was good.
We'll wear your initial thoughts. I liked it. I you know I'm not down with season four per se. I think the magic thing.
I've gone on record before I think the magic thing is a bit rough It just it just feels off But this episode really had that right balance of you know the legends humor and the legends You know kind of off the walls any what the hell's this and then you know But also moving the story along and hell they're using neuron so again. I'm down, but I mean like I'm just gonna go on the record right now Because we don't have any talking points. All right I love Scott Pilgrim as much as the next person, but Mona's got a go. All right, just It's like really the hipster Please throw her out an airlock Goutes my eyes out.
I just ah sorry Gary and like I don't know I somehow feel like what I'm Gary. He's annoying. He's not a hipster. It's the hipster It's the hey, I'm just like weird for weird sake like Gary's just a genuine nerd Mona's like like It's like it's like nice chow and and and Ramona flowers were smashed together from Scott Pilgrim and poof Here's Mona, and it's just like oh And just oh and I don't mean that the Asian thing or anything like that just like it's I love Scott Pilgrim cuz it worked there She does not work here like I just it's like I don't care that you're on the screen I'd rather see Nate and Gary at the time, you know, then you making eyes at some freakin dog dude, you know Just ah so is this is that Hawaiian?
Is that what he is? Yeah, I'm gonna assume it is yeah, that's what I was picking up on with the tropical settings I can never remember the name of the actual creature and so I was forget to google it afterwards, but yeah I'm assuming it's some kind of Hawaiian shape-shifting mythical creature But yeah, I don't know Mona, you know, she's okay. It's at least in my opinion It's one of those things where she feels like so naive and ridiculous like the dude opened his car door into her And she's gonna sit there and be like, okay, I guess I'll pay for it. It's like no No, she's she's a pushover and that's she just she just wants everyone to like her yeah, but I do not like her I don't I don't like the character the actress the actress is fine.
I do not like the character It it doesn't add anything to that's what I was trying to say Totally with it well it she does in that she drives the plot which is exactly what she did this episode Which is pretty much exactly what she's done in every other episode She's been in has been so good device for the plot to but no no what plot but if you take if you take that out It's it's it's still an episode. She really didn't drive this plot She's she drove the C plot which we could have easily had Nate and Gary do there could have been something going out of the time You're oh minus of mine. It's their role. They're romantic side But they could have but they could have changed it to be like okay It's Nate and Gary finding out about about the project Hades from a couple weeks ago.
Oh I would talk about that was something I thought about earlier. Thank you. Yes project project Hades Is hell and yeah, it's all gonna be oh, yeah, we'll speculate on that Thank you. Yes So I I agree that they could have handled that C plot differently But I mean like that's the reason why she was there was to make it so that he escaped and so that they can understand about Project Hades and I feel like there's going to be something coming of that like this is this is now an open-ended thing where the Hawaiian were wolf guys out there and they're gonna have to deal with that something that she got scratched Yeah, she got scratched She's frozen in time and something's gonna happen there and yeah, that's gonna be weird and we'll talk about the frozen in time Bit a little bit later on but I'll tell what about you overall thoughts of this episode overall overall I liked it.
I was disappointed that it wasn't Manny, but I wasn't but You don't even like Cositeen you go away. Yeah, but other than that. Yeah, it was a decent episode I I more and more I'm still I'm loving the fact that they're giving Zari something more to do and this because I think she was well underused So giving her yeah, I think so Yeah, she's kind of been like the girl in the ship like she's been martin Stein this season She's been like I'm on the ship like the guy in the chair, but yeah, but yeah, but she she She at least goes outside in the sunlight true well unlike Yeah, well, that's because why it's not a vampire. Yeah, well, and he's like space Jesus And he's a pub your movie.
He was in where he played God in the 70s. It was like a massive trip Titanic He played like God he played a representation of God like things like hippies and stuff. I don't we talk about it last time I don't believe yeah, but anyway, yeah, Victor Stein is a is definitely not Victor side Victor I can find them because they're the same person Victor Garber. Yes.
He's a vampire of this much. We know yeah, but yeah, okay, so I yeah I think it was overall good episode. It was yeah, I was nice. I'll do another stuff God spell.
That's it That's what it is. That was his first his first credit. Oh Okay, well it's from what I've seen of it online. It's very interesting So yeah Maybe we should do an episode on day by day.
Oh dear lord these things Yeah, so overall thought it was good episode. It was really good Yeah, or really interesting a you know good little hiatus a literal cliffhanger that they had there at the end there Floating in space, right? That's about as close to a good energy get Sorry's a cat for some reason. It's always a cat.
Yeah, I don't get that. I mean which I mean it's not really something we could I guess we speculate but like was there ever any attachment or some kind of like throwback to her being a cat? It's a well not that I could think of I mean maybe something to do with like her like Isis being tied to it In Egyptian God. Yeah, so it could go with that but that's that's literally stretching it.
There are 55 million jokes about her being a pussy I'll let it that out as well. Ladies and gentlemen So yeah, you know overall good episode I love how when you know they first obviously the issue happens There is we started out with constanting having some daydreams about this relationship for the guy that Kyle and I thought was many But turns out to be a man named Desmond and it seemed that he actually really cared about this guy And that was kind of interesting coming from Constantine who's like this heartless bloke He doesn't really care about anybody himself or at least that's the image that he portrays And so we have we get a little bit more look into Constantine there to kind of see that You know there are people that he cares about that he cares about and you never really know when he says like what the truth is because we got two different stories about what happened to Desmond and I'm beginning to wonder which one was which so at first he told Zari that He convinced or he tried to convince Desmond to go out of town so that Desmond would give him his little protection amulet but neuron neuron neuron but neuron killed him to get to John not quite later. We find out. Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah later We find out that John actually lied and what happened was is that he tied Desmond's soul to neuron in order and so when he sent me right back to hell It took doesn't with him now.
Did we I'm trying to remember there's a clear explanation as to why he had to tie doesn't sold to Neerad in order to like to save New Orleans Okay, maybe he needed the offspring of a powerful witch Or a powerful foodie priestess. Maybe they didn't explain that part that well except for this giving New Orleans another day to live Yeah, but other than that it wasn't really stated. I feel like they'll probably talk about that a little bit more But speaking of voodoo priestesses what we find out is that on the box of the bat the cheese On the back of the box of cereal there we go on the back of a box of cereal that that Ray is eating There's apparently like a fun little quiz about serial killers, which is funny because cereal and yeah serial killers So Whatever future they got that stuff from it's just You know, you know who the guy's on the front was two cans son of Sam He was around before any of you were born like that I remember the whole thing but anything I was like alive Like you guys were like literally like to like that was a legit thing like he was a legit big It would have been a lot funnier than what they had tech right As this wow you people in Texas a little better Wow Ted Cruz even tweeted about it like he tweeted a joke and like it's it's kind of funny That's sort of six sort of way where it's like dude. Does it kill a lot of people and yeah?
Yeah, I don't know anyway What's old should you do if you're sitting there you're going through the grocery store and your kid gets a box of cereal and puts it in The cart and then you know you buy it just not even thinking about it You're looking on the back and you know you have a serial killers a notorious child serial killer and a rape of women on the back of the cereal box I mean, what do you do at that point? Do you? What kind of failure has there been on multiple levels for that to get that? Produced in in sold it did not it passes out.
There's pretty well, but yeah, I'd yeah Crazy, but yeah, so they see that the actual most notorious serial killer was madam. I want to say madam's or anyone's not I'm sorry. It's yeah, I'm in her name. It's someone who we find out is related to right.
Let's just go with that Yes, it's it's Desmond's great great madam big brother Yeah, and kind of a Macguffin so she was a voodoo priestess in New Orleans who? was executed for these serial artists that went around New Orleans and And she was a prominent I think she's an actual historical figure maybe I might be mistaken about that She was an actual powerful free black woman who lived in New Orleans during the 1880s and which is a rarity You know and during that time in New Orleans and whatnot as you know considering the South as it was and so you know they go back in time to try and figure out what's going on and One of one of her henchmen ends up fighting John and capturing him and I think it's just absolutely hilarious that the you know that Madam's a running She is absolutely just not at all surprised that a guy from the future is here in New Orleans in 1880 I love how the match will use when confronted with like stuff like time travel and things like that It's nothing a baton. I had it. Oh, it was marilla.
Oh, there we go. Marilla. So marilla. So marilla Bo's henchmen since it's out John because of the amulet he's carrying that was Desmond's and captures him and then so marilla Bo gets the story by pulling out of John and finds out what happens and so they end up because I want to keep her safe because she's gonna be you know eventually tried and executed for these crimes and so they find out through her that it is a I can't remember the ghost name now What's the name?
It's basically a spirit that dies and it's so evil that it came into hell Hold on think I have it. It is a Dibook, Dibook. There we go. Dibook.
I think it's a dibit. You're a DYB. You K. DYB.
You K? Okay, yeah, so it's a dibit and this is a spirit that is so evil and so bad that it can't cross over into into hell It's just pretty astonishing considering hell's pretty bad place. Um, and it's dibit We find out that it is possessed of a weird looking sailor doll and it's going to go in and murder this blonde woman So we have our 18 I had that plan of like let's not tell them that was just wait till he says it and I'm just gonna play it Well, they will find you and they will you know, if you pay enough money that'll actually go and save you from a killer I I used to know that too. It was like oh gosh.
It was in 1972 a little tag by 1972 a group of commandos where let by Oh, I had the whole thing memorized when I was younger. I couldn't do it now though. All right. We'll memorize again in next time Yeah So we have the we have them staying at the party Rake it's not too conscious by the doll and then the rest of the 18 shows up and they take care of it by make running it Make finally use this gun.
So yeah first time for the season. I think I I Don't know if I yes But this is the one that I remember yeah, yeah, they didn't really only effects this year We had one Zari wind burst blown open the door right today. I won today Yeah, they did once a day and then there's been a couple we had the Shapeshifting cancellation spell that John had John's opening help portal stuff and a couple things related to John But everybody else has been pretty pretty light on effects. Yeah Well, there's a firestorm left they uh they have all this money to not waste on effects Yeah, maybe their budget went to air over fly.
I'll probably black lightning It would be my thought because I mean you can't do that without major effects You really didn't do that show without them. Yeah, I mean can't have black lightning without the black lightning. Yes Yeah, yeah and so the Dimic they think is defeated they go and you know strap it down because like everyone knows I'm so glad they paid attention This man is in there everyone knows the dolls not dead. It's not dead.
It will come back and Yeah, it's the chucky the law of chucky anytime you're dealing with the demonic or you know possessed or you know Dubit confused doll you make sure that it can't get out from wherever you Place it right now. You know as we've seen chucky of course It came back in and what it did was and this was the greatest thing about this whole episode and my favorite piece was The divic the spirit escaped the doll as soon as I got on the way writer and it possessed none other than Man that was so great. So we all it was last season right. Yeah, yeah, it was last season after Past it was yeah, what's time?
It was Leo with the puppet it was like the episode right after that where we actually saw bebo for the first time to is where he had that puppet I was I was guessing I was thinking it was gonna be bebo I Don't know Yeah So yeah, but we got dr. Stein the doll it was great also the voice of Make Mike the Mike the Pike yes, I did it was the divic was the divic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but it was actually voice my Paul Rubens Ha ha ha ha ha nice word it's murder It's great.
Yeah, because you know I love Paul Rubens can't get enough of him. This is will you're telling earlier? This is his third No, it's Kyle's telling us this is third appearance. There's a third DC appearance first one was bad matter turns as a pigman's father The second one was in Gotham as a pigman's father now.
This is third wanted a DC related problem. Got ham. Yeah So that's pretty cool always good to see Paul Rubens even if it is just his voice And yeah, so we have this shenanigans going about there, but meanwhile we have our Let's see here. I guess it's a BRC team in this Time Bureau people yeah time Bureau people so And this was all Mona related and we kind of talked about it But you know Gary obviously is is into Mona, but he's too much of a wimp to ask her out And I loved I loved how Nate kind of you know shot down the whole like nagging misogynistic bullshit about what he was trying to do Because that stuff is seriously it's pretty sad.
Yeah, but um I'm glad I had that little point in there about that Sorry I'm so broken up No, no, she'll just pull the freaky cable boat up So all of a sudden everything goes dark sorry wheels dead Of enjamy Nope got a four trailer comes out before we've end you I had that on my face with it was already a trail. I already have that you check my trailer You know I posted it the other no. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a big role if I had no it's not a real I promise Okay, well, it's definitely not real because marble has an officially It's a picture of a trailer. That's a bedroom for a bit Like a lawn mower trailer Oh, that's good.
That's good But yeah, so we go back to the time you were here and we have Nate and we have Gary and you know, Nate's trying to kind of I guess You know be a wingman time bro wingman and Gary And it just it just fails measure because obviously for some reason Mona is attracted to the the werewolf Which is I mean, it's kind of neat like I'm glad they're going that direction It's you know, it's an interesting sort of thing. I mean, this is like a humanoid sort of creature And I think it's you know, it's it's interesting way to go about that. I'm you know, I'm glad they're not treating it Poorly, I guess you could say, okay, but there's there's I got a question on this now because it just came to me I forgive me if this is wrong and please I'm as progressively liberal as a date is long and you know, it's social wise Yes, it kind of would be the reality well No, it's not just that because anybody else thinking that legend is going gli on us all of a sudden name one stable male female relationship We've got two lesbians now two homosexuals and apparently a dog and a woman there's not well Ray and So Sarah I know but like right Yeah, so so the psychopath and the naive Like this is like the level of we're never going to show you any like male female relationships ever I'm just I'm just kidding, but I mean it's kind of like I was stuck with it. I was like watching that going All right, I was kind of refreshing.
I agree I just it was something that should be pointed out like they're kind of going Yeah, and I kind of dig it like I'm kind of glad they didn't shy away from the whole constantly thing You know because that is a major part of his character like yeah And they're they're making it like they're not treating it in a sort of different way It's you know, they're just it's a normal thing right and so they're portraying it as a normal thing And that's like you said it's a huge part about his character and so you know, nobody's like oh You know, Constantine and Desmond, whoo, you know, there's none of that and I love that and I think that's great That you know, they're putting that kind of stuff out there It's it's a little bit more interesting with the whole Mona and the werewolf man Because assuming that he is not like something that transforms into a human as long as he's able to give consent then go for it Wow that just happened Like in a Pineapple's breath when he's talking to the psychic lady in and uh, and she's like, uh, you know, yeah big the high school and she's like high schoolers Like well, you know, as long as it's consensual, baby I think it's consensual But yeah, you know, it's consensual fine, you know, you better be careful. You're in Texas. You can literally get, you know executed for talking this way Yeah, I know Greg Abbott's like listening to this conversation right now. I gotta hit squads on the way Well, I'm in Austin though.
So Austin's a sanctuary city for us, you know, say a little yeah, so Oh, but my apologies to George Bush though was kind of a cool one. So Hw yeah W wasn't bad like now you look back now. I mean I put W back in office I said, huh? I mean, I would snort coke and drink with W.
Yeah, well, no, I'm just saying like if you're to what we have now W was like Compared to what we have now. It was amazing Yeah, but I mean, you know, that's yeah Not politics. You know, yeah, I know what you say. Yeah McDonald's versus a tremendous pile of orange horsesh You know, McDonald's is a gourmet food by any stretch of the imagination, but like yeah, surely that over, you know poop You have orange horsesh poop and I'll eat it.
I'll eat the cat poop. I'll eat care I'll eat it Acre man. Yes. Okay.
Yeah, and then there's another scene in uh stepbrothers where he has to lick white dog. Yes Wolf barrel has a poop thing. Yeah, it's all just career. Yeah, it's all just career.
Yeah, sorry Oh, yeah, well, we'll try to reel it back in here. Sorry. We had a little uh, you know sidetrack tv talk Which is what happens frequently on this podcast. Um, but yeah, so Yeah, as long as it's consensual motor can, you know, do whatever with Wolfman, uh, I don't care and I think it's cool and I'm glad They're not making it weird.
Um, yeah, so there's that Is weird because it's technically be it would be technically beast reality Well, I think I think that is not a social norm yet, but I think Wait, whoa, you gotta back to straight up. There was an operative word in that we must point out Social norm no, no, no what you said the next word yet yet. It's 2018 anything can happen. No again.
No Anything can listen animals Can't give consent. Yeah, like because that's what he's like, oh Me that's one step away from equating Homosexuality with that it's like well, we don't have bestiality yet, but hey, we have gay marriage so how far away can we you know what I mean? It's like it's that slippery slope. We are we you're not subscribed.
I know you didn't Know but I'm just like saying you know everything everyone's got their thing this is Yeah, okay go Like why can't I marry a giraffe? It's like a giraffe can't give consent like that's just a ridiculous argument. Oh, hey No, sorry Anyway, anyway, yes, so I think yeah If the wolf man guy can get consent then everything's fine and it's great Right, uh if he can't understand that concept then we're in a really weird territory there, but he seems to have intelligence he can speak right? So like yeah, he can speak he speaks um, I'm gonna zoom it's Hawaiian.
Yeah, I know he's from Hawaii Yeah, yeah, yeah in the words quite on Jen Does not make one intelligent Oh, man, and not only does George our Well, take about me. That was great. We like same same brain Oh, that's great. Not only does George our he doesn't say I can speak.
He says I can spec That's spec. He's like boy. I'm not a little sick. I actually thought it was more for us gum I'll spend our like a box of droplets.
You never know what they're not going to do it tongue out. I don't know anyway. Anyway, uh, yeah, where were we? I think it's time for speculation I mean, I don't know We get the quality to be reality so I'm not sure where else we I mean we get we get B squad with Zari Charlie and john they go off do their own thing.
Um, I didn't talk about right. Yeah The episode ends because it's kind of important. Yeah, because it's sorry that Zari turns into a cat Charlie can transform again and And reality is fractured. Yeah, so It comes down to like john keeps trying to have plans to save Desmond and first he tries to uh, not meet him at a bar But that doesn't happen.
He meets him a week later. Yeah, and so these A week later like he's memory start happening. So you realize it's that you know Zari's like well Sometimes these things are destined to happen like you're supposed to meet so it's like okay Well, if I'm supposed to meet then I'll meet him fine But I'm gonna go back and break up with him before we get serious and before he you know Gives me the charm and all that kind of stuff so he goes back and he does that and we see the charm in his hand disappear And so it looks like it works, but there's this huge time quake thing that pops out after that and where we're left is uh, uh Uh, uh, Charlie is able to shake shift. She somehow was unaffected by the timequake.
So is Zari. Yeah, um, well Well, well, it's unaffected is a is a is there in the time for choice of words? I don't think I don't think the way for I was was it? No, that's a good question.
No, I think the way variety was still in New Orleans. Oh, yeah, okay. That makes a lot more sense I didn't remember exactly where it was so basically yeah, sorry and Charlie are in the time stream So they're safe except for Zari's a cat now. I'll get into that and then some else John's gonna be unaffected too.
Sorry Oh was he though? He's From from what the the preview for next week is like he's unaffected because he still remembers everything Okay, so I guess a little bit of speculation. Yeah, so he'll be the only one in the regular timeline who is unaffected And Charlie but Charlie's in the time stream with the Um, so so yeah, so that's interesting. So I wasn't sure I wasn't sure I didn't see the preview for next week because it's CW I don't know why this video doesn't like preview their shows.
It's ridiculous, but anyway, um, yeah, so we're left with the team Is fighting the crazy Stein ball Yeah, and um, and then the John Zari and Charlie are the only ones who are not affected by this timequake Everything else is like Mona's dying. She's cutting the belly. Uh, the the beast man escapes Um, but he's I'm sure frozen somewhere and we you know we get this idea of this operation Hades Uh, so but of course it doesn't seem like anything's gonna happen on that because everything is frozen And so before we get the speculation or any final thoughts you guys want to you have the episode No, I'm good for speculation now. All right.
We are a go for speculation. So now it's time for some speculation How many times do you say speculation in a minute? I would say more time speculation. I'm gonna speculate that I could speculate on speculation With a speculum I'm gonna use my speculum to speculate that I will say speculation or some derivative thereof at least Speculation more times where speculation is used to represent a integer from zero to n.
That's very speculative All right, it's time for speculation. I push the button out Gotta let this trail dog bumps great stuff. We'll tell you how to find more of this stuff later. Um, so man props to will again Uh for calling neuron, although he did pretty much list every match with easy villain Don't applaud just don't Give this into we're gonna give this into yeah, uh, so I'm not very familiar with neuron.
Kyle. I don't know if you are as well. No, I'm not Can you give us like a rundown like who is this guy? Let's give us some details.
Well, he's a high ranking he's a high ranking demon in hell He's like, you know, it's like say there's a triumvirate of some sort of like Satan and all this and you know He's like one level down, but he's always trying to move up. Uh, so he he basically he's hold stick is the art of the deal He's he's you know, oh wow, he's trump. Huh? All right moving on.
It seems to be good at his job. Yeah He's yeah, he's big on deals. He uh, you know for your soul He'll up your powers or he'll do this and you know he'll help you but it'll always cost you something immense like uh The flash story I was talking about and it was I think 96 or 97 Um, he took walli at one point. He took walli's love for Linda Like he didn't take his soul.
He took his love for Linda And then Linda he took Linda's love for walli and she made that deal to keep walli to let walli keep his soul So I mean he it's what he does It was kind of great and he did that so that the souls of the uh, because what happened was the rogues got their powers uplifted upgraded And neurons took their souls out so they were dead inside So they the rogues were normally just thieves go on this mad like they were killing thousands of the rogues of power If they're on jet so imagine a code right? Yeah, so imagine captain colds gun just going to town and weather wizard just you know and mirror master was just throwing people in it was It's incredibly great and I definitely recommend that it's it's great reading paul Ryan was drawing it. It was mark wade writing It's really good near on is yeah, he's uh, he's an artist. He's a very clear.
No, he did fantastic for him. We don't talk about him. Yes Even though he comes from Wisconsin So I've always liked near on from that he was involved in day of judgment same idea Um, so I mean with that in mind, I love it. I think you know that it kind of went in for me The project adi saying now I'm kind of wondering is hank did hank have to make a deal with near on Like it's so it's a little bit of sense You know and that would explain what is gone all the time or is hank near on God, I hope not.
I don't think he's he's not not too but he's probably working for the the embodiment of the wrong I think he's I think he probably sold the neuron for something like, you know Don't forget his dad had left him. He was an angry guy and to get ahead in life He could have been like I saw my soul to the devil to you know become this thing thing and all of a sudden You know neurons like I'll take your soul and you can become the head of a government project and blah blah blah blah So yeah, so okay, that can make sense. Yeah, so he sells a sold a neuron to get, you know higher up ranks to where he is or whatever Now here's a question that I have though could Because so he wasn't on board with a magical creature stuff until he saw that they could be controlled That's when he was talking about project Hades now. I'm thinking I'm thinking two things here number one is this him gathering Creatures instead of souls for a neurons army could be number two Is this hank gathering an army of magical creatures to fight neuron to try and get it so bad?
I think the way the guys were taking that dog dude out of the cage. I think it's the other way around I think neuron I think he's getting these creatures so that neuron has an army because neurons big thing is And I think they talked about it today is to go after this organization I forgot to tell like the triumvirate or whatever so okay now we're going into the spawn movie And he's gonna try to build an army of things that can go after you know these top three so he can move up You know that's that's kind of the key is demons want to move up like that was a big thing Uh, so the rhyming demons were a lower cast below that they couldn't talk So, you know, he was he's above that so Ettrick and it's a lower class demon than neuron So yeah, again, I hated DC universe magic don't get me wrong But for some reason I loved underworld unleashed and again 1995 miniseries It was in all the annuals DC used to do that all the annuals like had this one story So underworld unleashed was what they did. So I highly highly recommend it's gotta be in trade paperbacks somewhere So cool, I'm gonna get it digitally. Yeah, it projects interesting.
Yes, so Try and trust me that flash story. That would be the one I'd be well. You'll love it I'm telling you'll come back and be like, okay. Yeah, because it was it was Wally West at his best I mean giving up his soul for Linda or kids love for Linda You know, they would sit there and talk and they would you know, they thought bubbles under it He's like, you know, I feel absolutely nothing for her just pretend so that she doesn't think anything's wrong You know, it's like, uh, it was it's a I'm gonna go read that story again because I love that story So so yes, it is a tree paper back and yes, you can get it digitally.
Yeah, nice excellent Um, so okay, so then what does this mean though for the legend? So yeah, we got a little bit of backstory in the actual continuity So we got a lot of his backstory from you. Well, thanks So I kind of get an idea what he's trying to do Um, but we don't we never have established a hierarchy of magical creatures or demons. I guess really in the show Uh, I'm assuming that's probably something that's gonna have to come down the line to really explain narrative motivation Uh, and yeah, and so I'm really curious about the project Hades.
It sounds to me kind of like it's going to be a thing Uh For it's gonna relate to Nate's dad. Obviously and it does make sense for him to have sold a salt and neuron and that he's uh, I keep saying near-odd instead of near-odd. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I'm thinking neck-on like every time I just think it's near-odd is neck-iron about the K So yeah, yeah Um, so yeah, so yeah, it's gonna have something to do with Nate's dad and that's gonna be very interesting Uh, especially because you know, it seems like Nate is over that like daddy issues phase And so it's not like he's gonna do something stupid to save his dad Right.
I don't see that being the case. Oh no, I absolutely think he will That just did it puts Nate in a position where he's gonna find like kind of I wouldn't be surprised if they take that flash door and he's like No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, I'll give you my soul for my father Like I could yeah, that's Nate As the day is long it is but it backs it backs up Uh, it back tracks on the stuff that we saw happen with nate and dad in the last episode, right? You know, and that's that's the thing like, you know, I like it when they do these character development moments And it is nate you're absolutely right. I wouldn't be surprised that they do that But I don't like it when they set these precedents when they have these characters build past these moments where they struggle with some kind of issue or whatever They get past it and then immediately they they go back and and be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no You know, we'll do all the work that was done in the season, you know half season before this so well parents do parents parental relationships Are some of the most complex in our lives if you think about it, you know, not to get, you know, too off base here But I mean of course it's gonna be complex like that You're gonna want to do certain things and you're gonna want to set boundaries with your parents And you may find this out like when you guys get married with in-laws and stuff is like hopefully you win the in-law lottery But speaking as some guy was married for 10 years I mean sometimes you do have to set boundaries with your family and yet, you know, you'll sit there and you and your spouse will sit there And you'll come up with this great plan of setting a boundary because maybe a mother-in-law or whatever is like just in your business in your finances And everything you're like, okay, absolutely We're not gonna tell you this and then you'll get on the phone with your mom Okay, it was me I was talking about myself And I'd be like and I get on the phone with my mom and I'd be like six seconds in and I'm like and mom Deb is being a total and I can't help it, you know, it's like your relationship with your parents goes so far back And there's so much there's so much muscle memory involved in that that no matter I don't think any amount of character development that they do there is gonna fix the fact that Nate wants his father's respect his father's love and his father's admiration And giving himself up for his dad in any way shape or form is gonna be his go-to, you know?
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but yeah, I think you're right Who knows maybe maybe legends will do unlike every other CW superhero show and not break characterizations as they've solidified Yeah, that's that's wishful thinking. Yeah, I want for Christmas CW But but yeah, and so so we have that we're gonna have to figure that out But the first thing we're gonna have to figure out is what happens to the timeline now because we have this timeline go through and everything's frozen And the only three people apparently who aren't affected by it are Constantine Charlie and Sorry, yeah, so so this will be this will be interesting and I was asking you guys earlier, but I don't recall there being any sort of hints or I don't know clues as to Zari being a cat in disguise Aside from you know, the Egyptian goddess Isis. I think it was because Isis is a great for her character. Correct Was Isis a cat?
No, well The other thing I can't quite do is that it's the Egyptian and Egyptians love their cats. They did they worship cats to answer together cat boom Sorry, yeah, and she's and she's still got the stone which means she said got the stone no, it's like the The leash the collar. Yeah, the collar is the is the bracelet right? Oh, was it a bracelet tag on it though, right?
Yeah, but yeah, yeah It's Zari's bracelet as the collar and the galaxy is on Orion's belt. That is also true. Yes So, yeah, I don't know I feel like it's going to be one of those things We're gonna get a lot of Constantine character development because he's gonna have to come in the realization that he can't change that and that's something He's gonna have to live with and uh, it's gonna be interesting because Zari's not gonna be there to kind of you know For some to make that realization is gonna have to do on his own because usually Zari is the one who's like oh, I know You want to go back in time and save your dad or your cat or your dog or whatever But you can't do that and I'm living proof I have experience and this kind of stuff So I'll help you through it. She's not gonna be there now.
So, right? What do you think's gonna happen with that? It's gonna have a really negative impact on Constantine? Talk to the cat.
I think you're gonna He'll have some magic invitation because again the McGovernor the week as it has been every week is magic and it'll be like oh love I can understand what you're saying. Yeah, I love Boys that would be yeah, that would be great. I would love to see that Magic talk to cat spells like the doctor do little spell Um, yeah, so I don't know what do you think me is this gonna be a positive or a negative result on Constantine? Um, I think he's gonna figure out that what he did was wrong.
So it's gonna be more of a positive thing is Are they so he's gonna have to go back and like relive that whole thing again, but and undo it And so he's gonna go back to the same timeline, which is gonna cause a problem Yeah, so he's gonna go back and try to stop himself from stopping himself right from yes Yeah, so that'll be interesting actually see that panel so then so at one time there'll be three constantines Wonderful. Yeah, you'd be more constant If only there were three seasons of the MC Constantine show Yes, because then he's asked would not be on my show Actually, I think it probably would have still would have happened I don't think it would have happened at all. I think if he had his own show he'd be in his own world It'd be a swamp thing and and a Faust and my mother's a wagon or whatever the hell else they got going on over there and just Well, technically there is a Faust because um it's written because there was Felix Faust No, Felix Faust was uh in Constantine Oh, wasn't that would probably be why they didn't do that that makes sense then because I really do think Faust would have been a better fit for this season because of just his level of power and he's a justice league guy and you know, he's just malevolent as hell yeah, but Felix Faust in the In the MC show was an old guy so he wouldn't know he's not that much of a threat right? Yeah, yeah, so I probably wanted to use him.
You're probably right. Yeah But I think I think that's the whole time quake is related to the else world's crossover that is happening next week Um because in the trailer for next week they talk about how reality is changing and how reality is different So you see in the trailer you see a bunch you see a movies pepperton So you see Gideon in her human form with um with Sarah and Ava and then you see like a militarized time bureau Which is very different than what it is now So they also they also did say that there is going to be like a tie-in to else worlds for their mini crossover Okay, I was under the ocean though That's uh the reason why everything was changing was because uh the monitor gave that dude the book and he sort of rewrote Right he wrote reality just like the spirit destiny just like spirit destiny didn't season do Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I guess that's that's what's interesting here is that like since the current maybe that's what it is Maybe the current reality is frozen by john constantine's actions And so this rewritten reality is unaffected by that So we're not going to see ripples from the time, you know thing hit the flash or hit the green arrow Anything like that because the monitor gave this dude the book and he rewrote it So else world is all going to be Completely separate and I guess well no because they're going to resolve else worlds at the end of the crossover Right, it's legends has no effect on else worlds. Thank god. We'll say we'll say that right There's not gonna be cross over there, but there's there's another there's not another legends episode next week, right?
Yes, there is okay. There is okay. So that makes sense because we'll have there'll be a resolution to that time quake thing I think and so that would be yeah, that would be a good explanation as to why like current reality didn't get affected by else worlds And it was just the else worlds realities because the time bubble thing froze everything and I think they're gonna pretend It's I think they're gonna be two different things. I don't think they're gonna mention else worlds on the show I don't think because I don't think they want to turn attention to the fact that they're not a part of the crossover Like I think they're just gonna be like whoa Yeah, I can see that I thought they might want to have like a soft crossover kind of bit, right?
Yeah, I just I wouldn't be surprised if they're all kind of like well this sucks, you know, like why even draw attention to it Yeah, I'd be mad. I mean, you know if you feel kind of like left out Yeah, but I mean it makes sense though because the big crossover with all the shows it was I don't know There's a lot when it was like four nights five nights long, right? That's like, you know, three I think three nights is a three hours. That's like a movie long thing.
It's a good time to tell a story Right when you start when you're pushing five nights five hours. That's it's a bit much. Yeah, I don't disagree It is sad though. I agree.
I agree. Yeah, I would have loved to see legends face off with the monitor and superman Oh, yeah, that'd be cool. I'm so excited for this crossover. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
All right. Well, uh, anything else to speculate on guys? None for here. All right.
I think I think it's time for our favorite part of the show the ending. Oh, I'm sorry Aside from that mix quote of the week All right, here we are at the favorite portion of the show and we got a couple of quotes for us this week and Kyle lunch take him away Out of my way or i'm not that firm all of your lip Oh, I know what I can't even say that one. So I'm not even gonna say I know I'm not gonna be whatever man pants. Oh, sorry Wait, you should do that again.
I did it for you. I was like, I know a woman. I can stab Yeah, but I don't like that. I was just no.
I'm not going with that one. There's like a B2. It's gonna be whatever man pants But I like the stabby. I'm sorry I do but it's just like it's just like well.
He is a killer and everything But in this thermon just like me saying it's just like oh, it's too much It's too much apparently i'm okay with homicide. So you know, I'm like, oh, let's make a joke of it Abel loves yeah, Abel loves serial killers because everyone needs a hobby and apparently hers is knowing everything about serial killers because that's healthy Yeah, uh, well, I don't know what I like to whatever man pants because I thought that was a pretty good uh, aside from you know Him calling her the c-word am I mean clone? Yeah, um, I think whatever man pants is a pretty good burn All right, Kyle, what's your vote? Whatever man pants.
All right, let's do that one Whatever man pants and there you have it our mix One of our other portions of the show that it's what our third favorite No, yeah, because we're all second for sure and then I just make it a pretty fun This is one of a favorite of a section of the show and that would be Nate's quote of the week Now it's time for the Nate's quote of the week We have one Nate's quote of the week this week. So here it comes ready Hey catch a proder Tick-tock hey catch a predator. What was that? You make quote of that was definitely That was the best Nate quote there.
Uh, and there you have it. There's a our Nate quote of the week Unfortunately, we don't have a Ross review this week. Thanks Ross Uh, but it's understandable since we missed the last couple weeks. Uh, so but again, we'll we'll wrap it up.
Please. I'm dying Yes When he just dies to be wrap it up, please. I'm dying We're just about our time So, okay, uh, just a brief recap up here. Uh, we're gonna high east to April.
No, don't fret. We're not after next week Sorry, yes, we're back next week Legends the tv show is on hiatus till April. We will be back for two Episodes going back to the two episodes that we missed right and then a special episode who knows and you know what here's the thing folks I want to bring up one thing if you like flash and you're not listening to flash tv talk You're gonna want to tune in in a couple of weeks for grandma ester is eggnog and do something something calling show Christmas calling extra I've got it. There it is.
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