straight out of the timeline and right into your ears. I'm Bell. And I'm Holcombine. And this is Legends TV Talk.
It also happens to be WrestleMania Sunday as we do this. So there may be random wrestling quotes. Well, this is a wrestling episode. That's why that's why that's why.
And it's a wrestling episode. So it's very, very interesting here. These things kind of fell across here. So wrestling quotes, WrestleMania updates, all sorts of crazy things today.
If you see Kyle make weird faces, it's because he's watching WrestleMania as we talk about wrestling episode on Legends TV Talk. So yeah, really interesting. Anyway, how are you gentlemen doing? We're back.
We're live again. We're live on our regular new Sunday. Yeah, it's a new time slot. We're super crazy.
Time day. Time day. We're super girls. Instead of watching Supergirl, you should watch us.
Yes. And then you can watch Supergirl TV Talk and figure out what happened because really. This is also true. Yes.
Part of the TV Talk family. Yes. TV Talk. TV Talk.
TV Talk. That's what I was looking for. What is it? What is it?
I should know this. Oh. Oh, yes. I think about this whole Sunday thing, though, man.
It's like I record my other podcast on Monday. So it's like now back to back. So like my fiance is kind of like really? You got to go two nights in a row now.
I'm like, yeah, shut up. Kyle gives me a job some point. You won't. I will.
Well, it's time to keep them. Sunday is not on Sunday. So we're doing it tomorrow. So I'm in the same boat as you now.
Yeah. So that means you won't watch my podcast either. You don't even subscribe. You subscribe to the comic geek, man.
I'm a member. I'm not a member. I'm not a patriot on your ass. But I mean, I am there, man.
You don't have a patriot on. I know you don't. I used to be a patriot on a flash TV talk. But then, oh, yes.
I had to wait for that. So I'll bear you. Well, I'm still waiting for my prints from flash TV talk. That's weird.
I got to talk to Boba about that. I don't know why that I got mine. But then again, I drew it. Why don't we do a picture?
We should start a picture out, man. I want some bonuses. Let's see if we can do a picture. I don't think we can do a picture.
What do we have? We have listeners. All of a sudden, Josh was constant. I let's see here.
That is the weirdest one to pull out. Is that where you live now? No. That's like four hours away, no three.
Seriously. No, every time I've ever, like pulling back the curtain, if any of my plane stalkers people are listening, any letter, any time I've ever got a podcast where I just needed content, so I made up a letter. It was always Elizabeth from Oshkosh, Wisconsin, where I put the agent. It's just a thing.
I've always done, from radio shows I've done to other podcasts back when I did action stations for Galactica. It was always like, this is another email from Elizabeth from Oshkosh, Wisconsin, who writes, and I would totally make up something stupid. So that's where Oshkosh, Wisconsin came from. That's pretty much it.
But if you're a plane stalker listener, when she writes in there, it's real. Yeah, yeah. Not that I'm showing my own show, but you know, plane stalker's podcast are your friends. All right, moving on.
Yes. So yeah, so wrestling episode wrestling stuff. There's going to be a lot of wrestling. Oh, yeah.
But I think it's time for a, wait, no, what did it? It's time for the cream to rise to the crop. I can't do a bunch of my voice, but anyway, I think it's time for you to listen. The cream.
Me and Jean don't come and just go to the bathroom. I don't like it. I should, oh, you know what? You're going to snap into a slim gym, no.
I should have got slim gyms. I should have gotten a bunch of little creamers. They're like, you know, all throughout the episode, just like pull creamers out. The cream.
And like, because on that interview, he pulls like, you can just do a regular move every once in a while. But anyway, we should do a Hogan knows best TV talker. That show was hysterical. What about Tropic Thunder?
Oh, I love Tropic Thunder. Oh, Tropic Thunder. No, somebody, Thunder of Paradise. Thunder of Paradise.
Yes. No, I didn't talk about it. I'm a new one. Hogan had a show.
Hogan had a television show. Oh, wait, what was the whole thing? OK, imagine, imagine like, basically like the A team mixed with Knight Rider, but with a boat instead of a car. And in an apparently, I do remember that show.
Yeah. I do remember that show. Yes. And it was amazing.
What was the movie where he was like, suburban commando or something? Suburban commando also agreed. Was it? And he was also on the three ninjas, like a third movie or second.
He was also in Griblins, too. He was best, though. I'm sorry. He was the best Hulk Hogan outside of wrestling I ever saw was Thunderlifts and Rocky III.
Oh, that's right. Rocky III, he was the wrestler's Thunderlifts. And that's one where he fought Mr. T, right?
No, yeah, the movie where he fought Mr. T. But yeah, that's how Hogan and T met for WrestleMania II was on Rocky III. That's how Mr.
T was a wrestler for like seven minutes. But like, see, WWF, like 80s WWF, man. I was in all the way until the degeneration, X-era, where I was kind of like, this is now just dumb. Like, and I guess.
You just got inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. Who did Hulk? The degeneration X. Yeah, I guess.
Listen, they changed wrestling. I get it. And you know what? I came back in the late nineties with a rock and stone cold and all that.
But I mean, I really checked out for about eight years there. Because I went to college, became smarter, discovered girls. I really realized that, you know, that was what I wanted to do in my life. Well, that was my history lesson.
Yes, now it's time for the show history lesson. Yes, let's do that. Oh, no, Jekyllisto, it is time for history lesson. All the lectures to be told.
All righty, season four, episode nine. Lucha de Appwesta. I probably pronounced that wrong. No, you did.
I apologize. You did all right. I'm impressed. It's all right.
Yeah, this was directed by Andrew Kesh. And it was written by Kito Shimizu and Tyrone B. Car, yes. Tired.
Tyrone B. Car, yes. Kyle. I have a episode.
Gladly. Get ready, guys. Mona is frame four, Konaan is escape and is fired from the time bureau. Oh, no.
She evades a mind-wiping meets Konaan and sends him back in time before being captured by the legends. Nate and Zari look into the footage of Konaan is escape and find it have been altered by Hank. They recover the original footage from Hank's felony confirm. Mona's story about the men in black quote, quote, Nate confronts his dad pretending to be on his side and wanting to help.
Meanwhile, the rest of the legends find Konaan in 1961, Mexico City working as a mass professional wrestler named El Lobo. What? Taken. Sorry.
See, I've been taking over the role of another wrestler named El Cura, which is the priest in Spanish. Yes. They capture him only to discover that El Lobo's disappearance led to riots resulting in deaths. They returned with Konaan to 1961 in order to have El Lobo lose to El Cura and el Ujide Appuesta's and fix the timeline.
Sara confrts Eva about Nate and Zari's suspicions, but she does not believe her and has her team go after Konaan. Back in 1961, the legends stopped at time bureau from capturing Konaan while El Cura saves El Lobo's life resulting in El Cura being embraced as a hero. Mona is preparing to send Konaan back to his time who at a time bureau agent finds them and shoots Konaan dead. And in rage, Mona turns into a co-op, co-pay, co-pay.
Oh, wear wolf. A wear wolf and kills the agent before turning back into a human. Co-pay. All right.
Yeah. Yeah. He could chew? A wear Mona.
A wear Mona. A wear Mona. A wear Mona. Let's go with that.
So yeah, this was an interesting episode. There are a lot of things that I liked. I thought it was really fun overall. It's always cool to see Luchy Libre and stuff.
And in fact, actually, the El Cura character I learned this today was based off of Frei Tormenta, also known as Sergio Guiterre's Benitez, who was the same wrestler that the movie, Nacho Libre, was based on. So we will, yeah, we can call El Cura Nacho maybe. I don't know. Yeah.
But I thought that's going to be like, a real character in Luchy history and in Mexico history, because he was a priest. And he basically funded his orphanage by wrestling, which that's super cool. Because nobody would take him seriously if he was a priest. And if they knew he was a priest, he kept his identity secret.
Really neat stuff. But yeah, so this is a super neat little episode. Really interesting things. A lot of relationship-y kind of stuff happened as well, some misunderstandings.
But Kyle, what did you think about the episode overall? I enjoyed it. I mean, I enjoy a good Lucha episode. And I love seeing Konstantin kind of fanboy out about it, which of all things that he would fanboy out about it, Lucha Wrestling.
Yeah. So yeah, no, I enjoyed it wholeheartedly. Now, from last episode, we talked about how we don't like Mona as much. She was a little bit better in this one, but she still, yeah.
Yeah. I know. Yeah. No, I think this episode with her character, when she's not like this super-ditzy kind of naive character that sort of like stumbles into plot points, I think it makes her a lot more interesting.
And I feel like that's kind of where they're going with this, especially with the where-mona at the end. That's kind of an interesting reveal. And I feel like she's less, she stands with her convictions, I guess, more and she's more determined. This is a good person when he's talking about Konane and everything and her struggle to try to save him and rescue him and whatnot.
When she has a purpose and she's tasked with doing something, I think it makes her character a lot more bearable. Yeah. What was the episode? Well, look, it's starting to look like to me a season of filler episodes with occasional movement, which is OK.
It's telling me I think that for the first time in this show, they didn't know what they really wanted to do. I think what season two, season three, they had this whole thing worked out with Damien Dark and they had this whole arc planned from the beginning. And it seems now with magic, they didn't know what to do with it. So they've kind of been feeling their way through it a little bit.
All the way through, from Mona starting off as almost a Naive's chow, Scott Pilgrim's style, just completely Naive's not so much self-absorbed, but very, very pixey-ish type of character and taking her to this. Woman of her convictions, progressive, I guess, person who's going to stand up for herself, all because she got scratched across the abdomen because that was the last time we saw her. It's hard for me to deal with. It's a too big of a character shift for her.
I embraced the character shift. I do, too. It was more likable. But you're absolutely right.
It was kind of like a. They didn't buy it. They didn't earn it. They didn't sell it, right?
It was just like, OK, so there's not a time in between. I guess she just gets scratched and then all sense she wakes up and she's bringing characters. They never kind of planted the seeds. I guess maybe they kind of did, but it just never seemed to come out in her actions until that moment.
And with her bringing the prison situation, making it better for the magical creatures, you can kind of see. But her being steadfast in this completely different person just sort of popped out in this episode. And that was kind of interesting. And again, I'm glad for it.
And I could get around that in one regard. If they explain it later, Gary's like, you were totally different before that scratch before you got these powers. If she's suddenly more self reliant and steadfast, because she's now developed these powers from what I'm assuming is the scratch by the werewolf. OK, I can come around that, but you better explain that to me.
Otherwise, it's shot you writing. Yeah, because maybe the whole reason why the attraction happened between those two was because she was a were, Quapay. Yeah. You think you think you have a forehand?
I don't know. With the attraction, it makes sense with the writing. But if it was the scratch that turned her into a werewolf, I'll buy that too. I think it's totally the scratch.
And that makes perfect sense. I didn't even think about it until now until you mention that. That's totally why it happened. And yes, I could see her being one the whole time and not knowing about it.
Because she really appeared out of nowhere, just like these magical creatures. Well, out of hell. But she could be something where she doesn't know what she is. But she had parents.
And it's obvious she's had a life. I can't believe that all of a sudden she's a werewolf. Like that she's been a werewolf. She's known she was a werewolf, or at least had werewolf-ish tendencies.
And then just hulked out in the middle of this. I can't help thinking it was the scratch. I can't help thinking it was stuff from last episode, which again, I can get around the personality change. But other than that, again, I mean, yeah, we saw it.
Did you guys catch Naran at the party, by the way? Yeah. Yeah. That's all him.
Yeah. What a waste. Yeah. And it's just, again, it felt like, OK, you guys are going to have five more episodes, I think, till the end of the year.
It's time to start getting us invested in these characters more, getting us invested in what is going on, so that when somebody gets hurt or dies, what you always do in a legend is finality. Somebody's got to die. And of course, it's going to be Hank. You need to make us care about him before you go off and kill him.
Because if you don't, then it's just a, it's, you know, I really would like to see them start building towards something and getting us invested in it. Now, I can admit that I'm not a magic guy. So if they might be building this towards something, and it just might be missing me for the first time. And if it is, I can get behind that.
But I'd like to see them move something. Overall, I thought the episode was OK. But I mean, to be quite honest, I had to rewind. I fell asleep.
I did it. And then I had a moment or a second. And then I woke up, and they're in the wrestling room. I'm like, oh, shit.
I missed one. I had to go back to where Ava and Sarah were talking, which is where actually I started to pass. And that was all that. So but otherwise, it wasn't terrible.
Yeah, but speaking of 180-degree character changes, like we saw with Mona, I feel like Ava's kind of full of the same thing. This was, Ava and Sarah have had their kind of like rocky relationship stuff in the past. And it feels like this time Ava is to the point now where she doesn't care about the creatures they're apprehending. And she makes them very valid points.
She's like up until a couple weeks ago. You guys are standing them directly to hell. And so they sent two. They sent two.
They said the fairy godmother and the unicorn. Where's my nipple? Where's my nipple? Yeah, we might have to put a Gary's card in the middle.
Where's my nipple? But yeah, and so there's an issue of trust here because Sarah doesn't know who to trust, because Mona is saying one thing, Ava is saying something else. And Ava seemed to have sort of had a change of heart. We're like just two episodes ago, or three episodes ago.
She was all four giving the magical creatures better conditions. Yeah, two. It was the episode with Nora Dark. Yeah.
And so we had all that kind of building that character building stuff. And we see Mona getting put to use as far as her abilities to wrangle these creatures and stuff. And then now all of a sudden she's like, I don't care. It doesn't matter to me anymore.
I care about other jobs with these people that work in this department, which that's a really compelling argument. It's really interesting for them to pull that, where it's like Ava is worried more about her employees and whatnot than the treatment of the magical creatures. Because everything, it's on her head. She's the big honcho.
She's the person in charge. And it all comes down on her shoulders when stuff goes wrong. And so basically all she's wanting from, she's wanting Sarah to be a partner. There goes Kyle.
Something awesome has to happen in WrestleMania. Yes, just go. She's. Well, that was a good one.
Just keep going. OK. OK. This is your WrestleMania break.
Go ahead. So many update. What happened? How about it?
It's been Brock Lesnar finally. Seth Rollins beat Brock Lesnar? Nice. That was your WrestleMania update.
Now, back to the show. All right. Sorry. No, it's quite all right.
And so it's about support, right? And Ava wanted Sarah to back her up in her position. But it was against her better judgment to do so, because she knew something was wrong. And so it's like does Sarah support Ava 100% like you're supposed to do in a relationship?
Or does Sarah go with her gut and get to the bottom of this, which is ultimately what she did, which caused the relationship split, which I think is a really interesting way to handle that, where there's both sides are making valid points. And while Sarah is in the right, Ava also is responsible for the lives, basically, of all these people that are working with her. And so the piss off Hank means everybody is no longer employed, no kind of stuff. So what did you think about that, the way they handled that in everything?
I think they needed to throw a wrench into Ava and Sarah. They've been too happy for too long, and it's a CW. And so we must have drama. Right?
Yeah. Of course. OK, this seems well enough. And Ava has always been somewhat of, like, I'm the boss responsible, blah, blah.
I would dare say that some of the changes she's made towards more towards Sarah and being somewhat softer, and all that was more out of the character for her than the behavior this week. Like, she's never been a consistent character for me. And to tell you the truth neither has Sarah was seemed to have. Again, it's a chemiseu and cart.
Like, I'm not sure how many episodes they've written. But nobody in this episode I felt from Rey to Mick to other than maybe Gary felt like they were themselves as far as speaking goes. They all kind of felt a little off. I think you're right.
Yeah. Because what was it? Because Sarah, the way they referred to, gosh, what's the freaking name? Conane, the way they referred to him, I was like, this beast is hurting people.
It's like a backtrack. A backtrack. And a lot of how they progress as characters, right? Right.
So you're right. Well, it's kind of weird. There's a lot of characters that are just sort of forgetting all the development they made over these last couple episodes and going back to the whole monster sort of thing. And then, but Sarah kind of, I guess, did a three.
So she did a 180. And then she did another 180 to come back to her, what she is now, by the end of the episode, which is contrasting with what Ava has become, which was for her to do a 180 back time. She was originally where she's more stern, disciplinary kind of thing. So there's a lot of turns in this.
It's weird. I don't know. It did. It just felt off.
It's always a lot of things. I mean, but overall, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that was an interesting sort of thing with Sarah.
And Ava, I think you're right. It is the CW. They do have things they have to push. And the drama is one thing.
And so we have that going on there. And since it is the CW, we have to ship. And there's a new ship on the show. A new ship on the ship, I should say.
The wave rider has a ship. And it's a new ship. We need to get John Wesley's ship on the ship. And then we can ship him with someone.
So it'd be John Wesley's ship. The ship's John Wesley's ship. Yes, maybe. Jigarick needs his wife on the ship.
Then they can ship. That's true. That's true. Because now I can't think of Jigarick's actual wife.
John. John Garrett. Yes, absolutely. But I was about to be like, you do know John Wesley's ship doesn't have a wife?
I was talking about that. Did I initially say John Wesley's ship? I do believe you said that. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's pretty much out on that one.
Yeah. John Wesley's ship's here. I did not know that. Oh, yeah.
I mean, go for him. No, I'm not saying that negatively at all. But yeah, he's going out. He's like, yeah.
Big time loves the. I know. He loves himself. You know what?
Before he took the check on that. But I pretty sure he came out a little bit ago. And I'm like, I think he takes the fellas. Yeah, which, you know, I'm more powerful.
Wow. If you're wrong, if I'm wrong, I have to. You're going to have to. Oh, I let it this out.
This would be edited. And we may have to do the Facebook show. Yeah, the live show. Maybe you want to hold a sausage.
Anyone's reporting this. No, no, no, no. But that's cool. I know.
Yeah. No, no, no. Jigarick should have his wife on the ship. So then they can be shipped.
Yes, yes. But yes, this new ship that we were talking about, of course, is Zarya Nate, which if this is out of nowhere, it's just completely out of the blue. No idea. Didn't see this coming at all.
But I mean, it makes sense they had to do something to break Nate's infatuation with Amaya. And so I kind of figured it was going to happen soon. But I didn't figure it'd be Zarya because Zarya's kind of like taking a back seat recently. Yeah.
Right? Oh, yeah. And so maybe this is just the way to get for more screen time. I don't know.
Kyle, what do you think about it? OK, yeah, by the way, just so you don't. He is 100% all the way. OK, cool.
I'll confirm. John, what's this shit? We can keep this in next. Yeah, I'm not a homophobe.
You don't have to edit as much. That's what you're really cool. Oh, we will edit this. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I liked that Zarya is having more screen time because I really do like her character. And I liked her episode last season with the time loop episode. So just having her have more screen time is phenomenal.
That was actually the season. That was just the season. It was the season. Was it the season?
Yeah, but it was before the log log log. Yeah, we had a six month hiatus. So it felt like it was last season. No, the time loop episode was the second to last episode of the season.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Zarya's time loop episode was last season because they had the disco episode. Again, this season. No, trust me.
No, because Zarya was the cat for like three of them. No, no, this was the one with the bomb on the ship. This was from last season. How sad is it that we have to sit here and try to figure out which time loop episode of the time loop episode?
Yeah. I'm 100% sure this was last season. OK, well, I'll. It dealt with the disco.
It dealt with the disco. And then the beginning of this season, they brought back the disco thing. Did disco in the disco? Yes.
OK. So there was a season three episode 11, Zarya's scapes time loop. OK, so there was that. OK.
That's the one I'm talking about. OK. And then, OK. Well, a lot.
And then this season was the other. I wouldn't even call this one a time loop. The one with what they were trying to pick up. It was an incredible time loop.
It was literally cause an effect for Star Trek. Like, they can't have it go back and redo it because they screwed something up. OK, well, cause it affected me. The fact that there's multiple time loops in the show, this is the reason why you should watch Legends of the Mar.
It's the best show on television right now, like hands down. Better than Flash? OK, I'm going to go with you now because I don't like something for a five. Sorry, yes.
They just embrace themselves for who they are. And they understand that. And because when you do that, when you say, this is what we are, this is the show that we are, and you're still able to keep it creative and keep it fun, which they have. There's been a couple short-jumping moments in this show.
But for the most part, they understand this is a ridiculous concept. But they don't overplay their ridiculous cards in their hand. You know? Yeah, like their trailer.
Yeah. That's where they put out. So they're going to cross over. Yeah, exactly.
Like stuff like that. You know, they get it. They understand it. That's what's important.
It's one thing to do what you think the show is. And it's nothing to understand what the show is. And it's not to do that well. And yeah, I think that it.
But anyway, you were saying about time loops and Zari and Zari. No, I'm loving that Zari is getting more screen time. I'm just not understanding where this whole relationship, where this whole chemistry is coming from. It doesn't make any sense.
It's horse crap. It's 100% horse stuff. Now they're about probably about the same age. So I could see that being a factor.
But they're not the same age. They're not the same age. He's like the ultimate pedophile. She's negative 50.
It sounds like a cradle robbing. It's more like it's more like it's something necessarily when a sale of podcast robbing. Yeah, yeah. You can go with your just robbing.
Well, no, I was going to go there. Yeah, a test for robbing. Well, yeah. Yeah.
Well, but I mean, here's the thing. Here's what he here's what kills me. Is that if you want to put Nate with somebody, that's fine. But all right, this will be the second person that Nate has quote unquote fallen in love with, who's going to be out of his timeline?
Like you can't bring somebody into the to the to the bureau. You have to give him somebody who's been displaced from time who eventually has to go back to her own time. This doesn't make it. It's annoying and stupid.
And to tell you the truth, the way he was mourning over whatever the hell her name was last year. But you know, yeah, like it, none of it makes any sense. Now I guess she's got to crush it. I mean, you could see it going back.
I think we mentioned it last year. She's kind of crushing a bit, but it's still just. Oh, it's annoying. It's from he hasn't been on the wave rider for a long time.
And so I mean, maybe absence makes the heart grow funder. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, it is kind of strange just to see this sort of kind of come from out of the blue. And yeah, you're right.
Well, I mean, we did mention it. I think a couple of episodes last season where it sort of seemed that way, but it's just one of those things where I'm going to let these dogs bark. OK. It's one of these things where it just, yeah, it does kind of seem out of the blue because there's been nothing this season.
I don't recall of them sort of appearing together. I don't know. Well, wasn't there something like a few weeks ago? Like I think there was there was a hint, but we didn't really address it.
I'm sure. And like they had a moment where they're talking. It just it's cool. I think when he found Charlie on the ship, didn't she talk to him about it?
Maybe. Maybe. It's just but I do agree with you, Kyle. OK, well, I just I I want to see if you got to put him with somebody, that's fine.
But then you know, instead of introducing an annoying character like Mona introduced somebody at the Bureau that that you know is good for him like that. And maybe I don't know, tire into the DC universe. I'm like Mona or anybody else you're trying to use these days. Yeah, I do agree with you, Kyle.
It's great to see Zargent some screen time because she has been kind of on you. I do like her character. I also agree with you, Will. It seems kind of weird to put Nate with another person who's out of time and who will eventually let you go away.
So you're setting it up for failure again. I didn't think of that beforehand. That's good. Right?
Right? That's so crazy. And so and I don't know. Maybe that'll just make a drama.
Maybe that's what we're doing it for. But it's just yeah, it's it's it's it's maybe they just they have that's the reason like because they do have too many characters. Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot of characters to deal with. And so in that way, I think it makes sense for them to make it someone on the way brighter.
And since sorry, he's been having the least amount of screen time in that case, it makes sense. So I get it from that perspective. But yeah, it would make more real world logical sense for it to be somebody who he's working with at the Time Bureau than someone who he very rarely sees. Right.
You know, yeah, so so God, his mother is just awful. Oh, she's terrible. What? What the hell?
And what good child bearing hips? Who's saying anything? Like mothers who want. Yeah, yeah, mothers who want grandkids.
And he's not lying. You'll find this out at some point. No, I mean, like never make an honest woman to that girl. Just saying.
She's a wonderful girl. What the hell's your problem? And why are you waiting? Anyway, moving on.
I don't know. Like I just I just think if I would be so embarrassed if my mom said something like that. And she's she's one of those like, you know, she calls my dog her grand dog. You know, I know I do kind of want to like email your mom and be like, you need to mention child bearing hips in front of the house.
No, that would be a very short subject. We're not going to go there, though. That is not a podcast talk. But I'm fired.
It's I blame. Oh, no, I blame the whole garden. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, so so that was yeah, God. Yeah, I should stop drinking. I should stop drinking too. I can't say any trouble.
No, no, it's fine. It's all good. I'm just you know, it's not something that I wouldn't talk about or that we wouldn't talk about. Are you sure?
Because I can go into now Dr. Phil. So tell me, Bill, what's the? Why can you know?
Make that type of joke about child bearing. What's wrong with the child bearing hips? You know, it's it's yeah. All right.
Moving on. Oh, look at that horse. Yes, let's let's continue to beat it. No, but yeah, so that was that was kind of interesting there.
That sort of out of the blue relationship that we got going on. But there's also a another. I don't know really how the blue on this one. This is sort of Nate's been struggling all season to kind of get his dad's approval.
And now that he has proof that his dad is up to something mischievous, he immediately doesn't trust him. And I wonder if that's just going back to him, you know, having father issues to begin with. And let me ask you this guy. Was that surprising for you guys to see him immediately sort of like, all right, we got to look into this.
My dad's doing something bad. Or did you guys think that he was going to have the whole? No, no, no, no, we got to trust him. You know, if he's doing this, it's for the best kind of thing.
Will, what did you think? Did you think that there was going to be a Nate rejecting the fact that he thinks his father's doing something bad? Or did you think he would actually go all in on the don't trust a pink? No, it's within his character.
He doesn't. He hasn't trusted his father. I mean, they were always very, very tentative in their relationships. Thanksgiving, the holidays, things like that, you know, on how to deal with each other.
So it was a very, very delicate piece they had. I think that, you know, the minute this happened, boop, it goes over. And, you know, he's, yeah, it makes perfect sense from the character standpoint, as well as, you know, Hank's just a dark, weird cat. And your mom is weird.
No. Yeah, Nate's mom is weird. His dad is weird. And yeah, I don't know.
But what did you think? Did you see that one? How many did you think that Nate was going to try to defend his dad? No, I didn't think he would try to defend his dad.
I think with the history that those two have, I think he would be like, OK, I could see this as something that he would do. So he's not super surprised. But I mean, they were starting to get along. And as we see, we see Nate wanted to get in on everything, but just to find out what is going on in the end.
Yeah. So I'm OK with all that. And I'm fine with them not going the expected route of trying to defend the dad. Yeah.
I think, yeah, when he said, he's like, nah, when Nate was talking to Hank, he's like, I just want to know what these things. You got to let me in on these things. I was like, oh, come on. At first, at first, when that happened, I was like, oh, really, Nate?
And then Zari popped out. I'm like, oh, good. Yeah. Yeah.
And I was like, oh, OK, cool. That makes sense now. So why did you say that? I never thought that was anything but what it was.
I immediately was like, he is getting close to his dad to look to get into spy on him, really. I never thought for one second that I was anything other than that. I knew that was a ploy on Nate's part. Yeah.
Well, with all the weird characters, just that we had this entire episode. You're doing a great point there. Yeah. I was like, no, don't do this with Nate.
Come on. This is the most solid relationship that we have with this entire show is Nate's problematic relationship with his father. And for him to just be like, oh, daddy, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
And so there was for a second there. I was like, please don't tell me that you're doing this. And they didn't. So I was like, cool, OK, great.
So they got me. Or they didn't disappoint me on that. So that'll be interesting to do. Let's see here.
Yeah, now we have we're moment. We talked about that a little bit. So this will be an interesting thing to see. We'll save a split.
Oh, yeah. We kind of talked about that a little bit. But yeah, do you have anything to add on that? Just that they'll be back together within two episodes.
Something like that. Yeah, I do. I don't think they're going to keep them apart. I think there's going to be more proof that.
Oh, sorry. I think there's going to be more proof that this awful and all of a sudden things are going to, you know, she's going to realize how wrong she was. No, I'm sorry. And then Sarah will be in trouble and we have to go rest.