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EPISODE · Jan 12, 2026 · 1H 5M

5.02 David Closson, David Schrock & Stephen Wellum • Interview • "A Case for Abortion Incrementalism"

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ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview David Closson on his COA Longform Essay "A Case for Abortion Incrementalism"Timestamps00:30 – Intro04:30 – How Did David Closson Become Impassioned about the Issue of Abortion?06:40 – What Should People Take Away from David Closson’s Book?09:00 – What Did Francis Schaeffer Argue For? Why Was No One Else Arguing Against Abortion?12:36 – Anything to Be Encouraged or Discouraged By in Recent Years?16:53 – The Differences Between Abolitionism and Incrementalism19:00 – Is There a Way These Movements Can Work Together?22:50 – Bill HR3755 and Abolitionists25:50 – Are Incremental Bills More Effective?27:47 – Is It Necessary for Pro-Life Advocates to Oppose Abolitionist Bills?30:20 – Are Pro-Life Advocates Against Equal Protection Under the Law?33:00 – The Different Roles of the Three Branches of Government37:11 – Different Strategies Available to Us40:20 – The Need for Cultural Renewal45:05 – Has There Been Any Movement Towards an Abolitionist Bill in Texas?48:38 – What Would Be Effective Against Chemical Abortions?51:28 – An Area Where Abolitionists & Incrementalists Could Unite52:35 – Are Pastors Being Trained on the Doctrine of Humanity?55:43 – Are There Particular Places in Culture Where Christians Should Be Involved?1:00:00 – The Responsibility Our Churches Have Toward This Issue1:02:05 – Final Thoughts & David Closson’s Prayer1:04:36 – OutroResources to Click“A Case for Abortion Incrementallism” – David Closson“Abortion in America After the Fall of Roe: Important Advances and Remaining Challenges” – David Closson“We are Abolitionists” – Free the States“Immediate, Not Gradual Abolition of Abortion” – James Silberman“Abolitionist Perspective on the Texas Heartbeat Bill: Three Quick Observations” – James SilbermanAbolition vs Incrementalism: A Panel Discussion – The Danbury Institute“A National Survey of Churchgoing Americans: Social Issues and Worldview” – Center for Biblical Worldview“Planned Parenthood closes Rolla, MO facility, will continue telehealth” – Nancy Flanders“Planned Parenthood closes 20 clinics after Medicaid cuts, warns of grim future” – Praveena Somasundaram“Two New Studies Provide Broadest Evidence to Date of Unequal Impacts of Abortion Bans” – Blomberg School“How Many Abortions are Occurring in America Post-Dobbs?” – Mia SteupertTheme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for LifeGive to Support the WorkBooks to ReadLife After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today – David Closson

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