5.08 Charles Lyons, Jordan Howe, Trent Hunter, & David Schrock • Interview • "Protestors are Coming to Your Church Are You Ready? Twenty-Five Action Steps Before the Day Comes"

ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as David Schrock & Trent Hunter interview Charles Lyons and Jordan Howe on their respective articles for Christ Over All and Center for Baptist LeadershipTimestamps00:25 – Intro03:43 – The incident at Cities Church Hits Close to Home06:08 – How David Met Charles Lyons08:00 – Charles Lyons’ Story22:32 – Having a Plan in Place26:23 – Distinguishing Between Different Incidents & What to Do28:48 – How to Onboard Well for a Safety Team33:08 – What Did It Look Like for the Ushers to Remove Disruptors?37:32 – What Should Be Said to Them? What Type of Force is Righteous in that Situation?41:54 – The Value of Having Song and Other Strategies to Have in Mind45:50 – The Mind of the Pastor in the Moment to Act49:00 – Closing Thoughts & Ending on a Note of Song54:10 – Closing Prayer from Trent55:58 – Outro Resources to Click“Protestors are Coming to Your Church Are You Ready? Twenty-Five Action Steps Before the Day Comes” – Charles Lyons“When Worship is Attacked, Churches Must Be Prepared to Restore Order” – Jordan HoweKingdom Defense MinistriesCity Hope InternationalTheme of the Month: The God Who is There: Contemplating the Doctrine of GodGive to Support the Work