Hi everyone and welcome to Jurassic but no welcome to the North one. This is the podcast hosted by Northern Nerd. I am one of your awesome. And I am the other horse Paul.
And I love you do that. It's it's it's weird. Like I said, we've had a few weeks off and it's kind of like a North and South divided here. So it's not been by design.
It's just how things happen. Happy Queensland. So we are joined by the lovely Phoebe. I'm looking at Radiance with the Red Lipstick showing off the Chris for some reason.
And we are joined by an extra special guest. We are joined by the lovely Holly. Holly, as I pre-worned you before we were all alive. So give us a little bit about yourself.
Let us know about your nerd credentials. Tell us about yourself a little bit. Oh wow. Nearly credentials.
I apart from being a massive George van which really helps my fans first. I die hard, I die hard, I die hard, I die hard, I die hard, I die hard, I die anything like that. Any film, any good B movie film, horror film, I love, you know, Halloween 3, season of witch, love it. See great camp.
Yeah, I have loved film since I was a kid and just yeah, just a massive nerd for Buffy and George, I was my biggest, my biggest thing. Yeah, I got all of the Buffy DVDs still and Angel as well. Oh, you kind of replaced me when we did the Buffy episode because I had nothing to see on there. Yeah, that was an interesting one.
And Sammy just went, yeah, yeah. Yeah, now one of the reasons we got Holly on this episode was for her Instagram handle. And again, just to give it away a little bit, bigger, but tall, which again, just screams everything to do with this episode that we're going to do into the end. And again, it's a little bit of a thank you because she's helped the nerds out a little bit as well.
So and that's what everyone knows. We like to give back and I know Becky's in the chat getting all excited because the women of the nerd culture actually did an episode just last weekend on Buffy's so if you're feeling brave and wanting to check out and see what Sarah and Becca had to see about Buffy probably a lot better than what we said a few years ago because I think your sister was on that one wasn't sure? Potentially, yeah, that was it because the Buffy is my sister's thing, not mine. So I was like, why don't you just come on and you talk for me.
You just be me. Come on. You do it. So hi, well it's Sunday, we're back.
The nerds are in the chat. Shed you the disclaimer and then we can get on into celebrating 50 years of chores. Where's everyone's enthusiasm? We'll be giving a bit more confused about that than that.
Thanks for you, baby. Thank you for the dance. Appreciate it. Yes, so let's give us the display on with that little one.
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Keep it kind and keep it toxic behavior out of nerdism. Oh bless it. That's been on the BBC as well guys. That's been a long time since we've mentioned that.
That has been heard on the BBC. Yes. Yes. So we...
This is one of our last episodes shall we say because we did a Jaws episode and... Oh shit yeah. So we had to remove it and well it's in the archive so it's here. I'm hoping it's deleted but yeah.
It's nice to kind of come back and talk about such. I think the word gets thrown around very often and it's almost the disservice but this is a masterpiece in cinema. Oh 100, 100%. The only one thing I am sad about that episode is no longer available to watch is the realization from me that this is a book.
Because I did not know. Even though it's his, based on the story by and the book be a start. Yeah it did not know. So yes shocked about that.
Have you ever had since you learned that in the last episode? Have you gone and read the book? I will let you make your mind about that. What do you think?
I don't know. But yes. It takes me a long time to read for you. Yeah.
Okay. Through Stephen King's back catalogue. Exactly. We've never had a wrong time.
Yes. So that's fair. I shouldn't have put you on the spot. something like that.
So with the two lovely guests on I'm after a holiday with the boss just yet. So Phoebe, as you're taking a mouthful of drink. Yeah. What was your first experience of yours?
Can you remember? I can. And it was with so I got a step back with Jack. And I think we watched this together.
Very probably a little bit too young. In that kind of unsupervised Sunday viewing kind of like just going to the living room and being quiet kind of vibe. Shh. Yeah.
And I can remember him getting really scared and hiding behind the sofa. And then for like weeks after just like just occasionally just going to the the middle of the living room. He'd be like. That'd be a complete thing from that.
Yeah. That was a little bit of a thing. I don't know if he remembers it. He might have like blacked it out with mine now from trauma.
Trauma. Too little bit too little. Yeah. And I just I can.
So that was probably the first and last time I watched yours. It's like decades ago. Whoa. Okay.
So this is a video. Yeah. This is a crazy video. Yeah.
And obviously I agree. It was a complete masterpiece coming back to it. I was like, I'm so glad to have the excuse. Oh, I'm so glad that you're here then because it'll be nice to have a different like someone who watched it a long time ago to then watch like a rewatch.
You're using yours. And you're like, oh, that's crazy. Love that. Because I obviously when you were a kid, you remember the big scary moments.
Yeah. Jump. But it's like the shark eating the boat and stuff like that. But I didn't remember any of the basically the first half of the film.
Complete like. It's interesting. I think I was finding yeah finding the woman on the beach and being like, oh, nice. What's interesting.
It's interesting. Yeah. It's interesting. You see on like the first half of the film because again when you split your doors down, it feels like two different types of movies like it fits perfectly.
But it's like almost like a horror movie at the start. And then an adventure movie towards the end. It's like when they're going out to see the time hunt the shark. And I know Spiel got himself doesn't reference this as a horror movie.
He sees it himself as an adventure movie, which is quite an interesting take. Because I think it's one of the scary films I've ever seen. Not. Well, I always would track it as actually like a hero's adventure.
So you know, like the classic fantasy structure where you have the call to action, the old mentor, the rejection of fate. Like it has all of that. And it goes through that kind of very epic. Um, heroic journey.
Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. It's definitely Brody's like heroes.
He's the heroes. He's the heroes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
What about you, Holly? Can you remember your first, like the element into the world of Jaws? Yeah, I was in the late district with my mum. So be repping my water as well.
Yeah. I think it was just like we were in a, I think it was in like a B&B, just on TV I think. And I was like, definitely, and I don't remember, I remember quid being spoiler alert. Okay.
If you haven't watched it in the last few years, it's pointless. It's pointless. It's pointless. And I remember, I remember the banging on the boat after song.
And I remember it terrifyingly to the point where I, my mum always teased me about this because I went to brush my teeth afterwards. And the water went down the sink and it made like some sort of like weird, gurgling noise. And I basically shout myself and thought that there was a shark in the sink. So yeah, that's my best.
And then I guess I've probably watched it a good, I don't know, a couple of times a year, if not more every year since. So it kind of affected me that much. Yeah. It's interesting because the certain movies that are, like, when I class as comfort movies and it's weird putting jaws in that bracket because you have cycles where you watch movies or if you want to watch something, that's you've seen so many times.
And again, it draws you in. But jaws is always in one of my cycles where I'll probably watch it two or three times a year, depending on, like, say, 10 years, depending on that. The mood as well, again, it's one of those comfort blanket movies. Again, me and Sammy Gusser on a podcast the other week, we talked about another one, The Lost Boys, which still like, feels like a similar type of vibe to this thing.
Or it's a completely different movie. But it's kind of feels easy to watch if that makes sense. I have a lot nicer things to say about this one than that one. Didn't realise how much I didn't like The Lost Boys until I started talking about it.
Which was a shock. But yeah, can't come from a resident of the gotha. You were calling still talking then. I know, I hope to shock.
I know, I hope to shock. I'm not the best at all. It's interesting saying you were scared of the same because I think I told them a previous podcast. I was scared to go in the bath after watching this movie as a child.
Oh, completely. I was scared of something cool. Anything. The actual scene.
Yeah. That made club about phobias. And I said that the noise that the sink makes and Chris looked at me like I had lost my mind. But there is a kind of like that kind of slurpy horrible googling sound.
Yeah. As soon as she said it, I was like, I know exactly what she's scared of. And I think that's perfectly rational. But an unrational thing is a signal to come out with a sink.
Yeah. It has a leap back. And again, just talking on your point, you made me a before airfnees. Watching this film when you were probably too young.
I think this is one of those movies where it is terrifying and there's some horrific parts. But it feels like a family movie. And again, I'm not. I will agree to that.
I will agree because my first experience was with my family. And I can tell you exactly when it was. It was this time at How Old Am I Now? 41.
Yeah, 41. So I just had just turned on. Maths is not my strong suit. And 25 years ago, when I was 16 years old and we'd been on a family trip to Florida, I think it was our second one that we had.
And the first one I was a moody teenager so I couldn't give shit about anything. But the second one, I wasn't so much. And we'd done the Jaws ride. And that ride had such an impact on us.
So when we get home, first thing we're going to do is watch Jaws. Because I'd never seen it. My sister went to bed, because she's chicken. And she's never seen it since.
She's never actually seen Jaws. And me, my mom and dad sat down and watched Jaws for the first time. And it was, it was because it was my birthday. It was just turned 16.
So it was this time, 25 years ago. How fitting? When we had the idea of doing a celebration of 50 years, this is where I fucked up. Because I thought the 50 year anniversary was August.
I convinced myself that Jaws was down in 50 in August. Nope, it was three weeks ago. So I was three weeks off getting this wrong. That's fine.
It's only three weeks. Brose, I'm going to mind. There's honestly, there's still people out there to do here who are celebrating this all year round. Yeah, all day before July, like, yeah, exactly.
It's the same. But not that far off. It's fine. It's good.
I would say that though. 50 years of this movie. And I know we haven't got the tag lines yet. I know you're talking about it.
I'm so excited. I know you're itching. But it's just 50 years. I know we've probably all watched this movie over the last few years.
This didn't feel like a 50 year old. Yes, the hair styles and the clothing and stuff. Yeah, a lot of us want to see it's going to be. The costumes place where it is, where it exactly is meant to be.
However, you can get movies made in 2025. That looks like it's just come out of the year. So who's to see it? I get what you mean.
The filmmaking style of it doesn't look like it was done 50 years ago. It looks like it was done yesterday. That's how good this movie is. And a lot of movies.
Sorry. I was just going to say this is gone. Go face. Oh my God, how politely used to?
No, no. So you've been spent forever just holding doors open for each other when we meet first. We just say sorry all the time is more than this. I've actually thought that by the time we went on it, we went on it for people who want to meet for me.
I apologize. Stop, you do want to apologize to their people. It's okay. Right in front of the woman who just told them.
I don't mean to sit this out. But yeah. What are you seeing? I was just going to say, I think part of what makes it a masterpiece is it does feel.
So one of the things that I was thinking of, because I was rewatching it, is that you can see all of the other films that have tried to do suspense the way that Stephen Spielberg invents suspense in this film. Like I think he holds the tension so beautifully throughout. And so many times he like lets you down a little bit only to come in with like a, like it's just that the way he holds those levels throughout the film constantly getting you to second guess, like, is that the shark attack? Is that the shark attack?
It's so beautifully done. It's just massive story telling as well. It's very modern. It's because it's just the execution of it is.
It's not the people who try to do that. Very few people do it as well as it. Even Stephen Spielberg, I think struggles to do it as well as he has done in Jordan. Yeah.
In later films. So I think for it, sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no. I guess you get the precedent all the things.
Don't worry. I just think as a film that was going so ethically wrong in so many ways at the time as well. I think on his feet, the way he did to create such a lesson in filmmaking. Like when you watch the Alex Kittner scene when he dies that whole scene.
I mean, obviously his influence from Hitchcock is so prevalent, but like just the way that he like he said himself that he wasn't thinking about. He wasn't thinking about the film. He was thinking about shots and he's thinking about like showing the audience, you know, these things. And I just think it's an absolute like flawless lesson in filmmaking.
And I think, you know, so yeah, like he said, so many stuff that comes after it and so much influence like from afterwards that his own influence about Hitchcock. But it's just to me, it's just, yeah, it's flawless. Yeah, I can see the Hitchcock thing in front of it. There's a huge Hitchcock fan.
I can see that suspensefulness running all the way through it. He did definitely take a masterclass in the Hitchcock's suspense field, but he manages to do it where Phoebe's right. He leaves you there so long. Because Hitchcock was very quick.
It's good because he was so excited about the fact that he was going to have this huge reveal. It was going to happen quicker than the only time I've ever seen it take in time with it is the shower scene in Saegor. But other than that, he was very quick to be going, right? Okay, this is it.
This is it. You got it. Whereas with Spielberg, it lingers so long that your kind of like your breath is sort of here. You feel like you're just about to go off and then, yeah, you lose it.
You completely lose it. And something that he does that Hitchcock doesn't is he uses humor to like deflate you a little bit. So you have these moments of like the tension building and building. And then something kind of a little bit funny happens and you go, you take it out with breath and then that's when he gets to it and your breath is like left your body.
It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. It's so good. How physical you can get by watching this movie as well.
Before I start unloading, because again, I'm dying of CS stuff. But if I start, we're not going to get the taglines until the power is in. I want to get the taglines! So Sammy, get them out the way because Holly's just got me wanting to see a million things.
Yeah. One stand. I'm just like, no, I got to talk. I actually have a couple of questions as well about the making of it.
That actually cleared up my head. But let's do the taglines because I'm so excited. I'm ready. Obviously, Ireland has everything.
Clear skies, gentle surf, warm water, people flop there every summer. It was the perfect feeding ground. Oh, there's more. The nation's number one vessel novel is now this year's most terrifying movie.
Can you, this is, if I was doing the taglines when we did the original one, I wouldn't have been a shark. I'd be like, yeah. Exactly. I'd have been the moment.
What? On the 4th of July, fish and season will be open on you. The amazing. I love, I love it too.
That first one is almost like a novel. Yeah. Isn't it? Yeah.
Isn't it? Can you imagine like in a world? In a world. In a world.
There's another one, which is a bit lengthy. If you forget what terror was like, it's back. I took it. See what you missed the first time after you closed your eyes.
That is the letter one. There is a creature alive to do which has survived millions of years of evolution without change, without passion, without logic. It lives to kill a mindless eating machine. It will attack into vow or everything or anything, actually, the web is anything.
Try to imagine meeting the devil with jaws. Ah, there's a fight about eating. No, they don't. This is why I love doing taglines because it's just really dawned.
These are my favourites. Actually, there is a great white man eating shark hanging around these parts. It has been terrifying. Is this terrifying?
It's a terrible commercial coming in. It needs to live. All of the heroes do do the music. The terrifying lotion picture from the terrifying number one bestseller.
When the beach is open this summer, you will be taken. It's like a nixon here. It's all getting very, it's almost like a bit of sexual threat. It's not like a bad tool.
It's just wait for this one then. She was first. Who will be next? I've got a couple more.
Do you like fish? Don't get personal questions, am I? Sorry, I love just read the last line. Do you like fish?
Well, he likes you too. Wow. George just wanted a friend who was misunderstood. Oh, gosh.
If you want to survive fish and save them, don't go in the water. I've got two more. I'll get through them before I lose my shit. So, before you go swimming, you should have read that one before you guys, you know.
You'll never go in the water again. That one's always the one that's came out. You didn't imagine the voice over my anything going, you'll never go in the water again. Yeah.
In a world. Yeah, they have probably with sharks. Who don't like people? No.
And yeah, they aren't out of all the taglines I have done for any movie that we have covered. They are probably actually the Batman and Robin one consists a little because they are probably my favourite. They don't. That's Holly said.
They don't meet them like they used to. But um, No, they don't. They don't at all. Because I was bursting as soon as Holly mentioned about like everything about this movie, how it shouldn't have been made in effect.
Yeah. I guess one question before you do that. Of course. Just wanted in your make leading to where you go on.
Was Martha Vinya happy with them shooting there? Oh, do they are they still really pissed off that that film was shot there? They made a lot of money. They made a film.
Oh, yeah. Basically, a lot of the residents are in it. So there's only like eight people in it are actors and the rest of it. From vampires in it all from Boston.
So I just heard that they weren't happy. Oh, no. Basically, they all over the moon. Like the problems with the shoot.
This movie was mainly shot in 45 or 55 days. And it was shot over a hundred and sixty. It took that six and a universal lost their shit because they were very don't go past like shooting. Like doubling your budget.
That's how the budget was four million and it went to 12. Was like 14 by the end. This is where the chaos reigned because the original film as Spailer again self said they were originally sent out to make almost like a Godzilla style film. Like where the shark was prevalent in all the different things and good old Bruce not working changed his focus and as I said he decided he was going to make a Hitchcock film where that's where a lot of the shots and a lot of the because what people don't realize when they were writing the script to Jaws they didn't have a finished script.
They were writing scripts on the night before for the next day. Literally it was that chaotic. Spielberg was getting threats on a daily basis through the producers wasn't giving them it. That he was going to get fired.
He's coming big. I've done a lot of research this is because I've been in love this movie and I find out as much as I could. Spielberg shimmed himself because an actress from Hollywood came to visit them because they were having parties and stuff and said the rumor in Hollywood is you're done. After this nobody is going to be working with you.
The studio is basically black less than you because of what you're doing for this movie and he just left the party went warm and just went what am I going to do? And the writer and I can't remember the writer's name because he was meant to play a part who's been the guy who worked for the newspaper. He said that's the one. Yes he said when Spielberg started this movie he was a boy.
By the time he finished Irikian the money was because he stood up for himself and went right this is how it needs to do. Like Half-Afe for the movie the studio wanted to pack up and film it all in blue screen. Oh shit. He was having a very different film.
Yeah he was like we were not talking about this today. No he's like the effects the dude and there was only two scenes the shark actually worked on. Yeah I was going to ask you about that because I watched him. I didn't actually watch the film because it wasn't that long ago I'd watched it and honestly this is just etched in my brain.
So I watched him dead meets Kill Count on it because he always does a run of the film basically and it was talking about the malfunction of the of Bruce and it showed you a clip of Bruce working for a second and then like it was real. So we all said he's in the motion and then he just was. It wasn't just Bruce that was a problem because they were actually filming in the other scene. What they had to do is film in intervals because they were supposed to be in the ocean by themselves and I sailed past them.
Right decades and they didn't have the technology back then to digitally remove them. So they're basically the one who said this board's gone film for five minutes another board gone film for five minutes. So each shot you were dating it was that's why it was taken Dias and Dias and Dias but yeah I just needed to get that I would be headwinds probably said about the problem. No do you know how it feels?
No do you know how much feels when you've got that thing just sitting there? No I got a set. Yeah so we got on the movie as well and because I know there's a lot of famous scenes there's a lot of like things that change the game with the movie as well but can we spend a few moments with the bornen because I think with any type of movie a live and die with the bornen. Especially this one like this one absolutely terrified me and again this watching as a kid didn't quite understand all these two people have won for a swim in the water.
They'll have a bit of fun like slashing around not knowing like. How'd you seen Friday the 13th? Yeah I got that. The introduction to the sound the noise and just the sheer violence of that scene is just blows my way and again I don't know if it had the same effect on you guys when you saw it for the first time.
It is one of the most terrible like there's a lot of scary moments in the scene in this movie sorry but that is one of the scariest things I had seen to that point. Yeah I think it's so terrifying. The for me her being called like Chrissy Watkins is being like pulled from side to side that the brutality of it like not doing anything so you just don't you know you don't know what's coming and to open with that as well is just like fuck like I don't know like it's and then when the water goes calm and just the you know the floating like bell you know all you hear is just like okay this is where we're at. The other thing is that you have that magnificent organ and it does kind of like you you sit and go what but then it's all calm and it's daylight and it's sunny and everything's all happy and you're like what the what?
I think this was straight in that as well. The restreant and like you could have overdone that or overkill a lot of the thing but it's kind of as I always said it's the the brutality at the point but then it's the stillness and calmness that terrifies you even more like how will you find it yeah. Because I think that's one of the things I was thinking of exactly that same moment where you're she's being dragged through the water but you don't really see anything other than like from here up. Yeah there's no like over violence and I think this is one of the reasons you probably can watch it like in the family film because there's not a lot of like blood or gore in it and yet it does that like my favorite thing of any film is it withholds the monster from you.
Yeah. That's probably because the shark wasn't working so they like physically didn't have a choice but to withhold the monster but I actually think it really works in the way because that's where you're like you as an audience your imagination goes wild with what's happening and I think that's like a much more effective storytelling. It's just how calm it was after the attack how still the water goes. And that's what I mean about the levels of tension and like relating afterwards you're like oh and then make sure that you're like like we're just gonna she's just gonna leave.
We're just gonna forget about this. What happens to her? No she's gone. What's going on?
Because isn't the dude they're just sitting there lying in there? It's just like a small town beach cop. That's where we're going next to the town sheriff. And everything's like but everything changes obviously you're going to daylight.
You've got the noises of the place you've got. Hey you've got the music completely changes. It's just you are you've been put from one place to another and you're like your brain's gone. Shit am I.
What is going on here? I'm like what's happening in the town hall? Yeah. The sound the thing that I get throughout the sound in this film is perhaps you've been telling.
Oh I generally understand. Oh this is really cool. Great. What I also think is really effective is how much the sound of children playing on a beach sounds like someone being attacked by a shark and to use so effectively to confuse your brain in like moments of ambiguity as well.
So you have like a shriek of delight and it takes you a second to realize that it's kids playing and not someone. Yeah. It's like that when Brody's obviously Brody's away at the whole and he's watching you know what? You've got to see where he's like hurt and he's like you've got people coming in his face and he's like trying to lure over and you're right to the sound of like kids got because of movement from here there and here left and everywhere.
My favorite shot of the whole thing is that slow motion shot on him like onto him. I love that. That is used in such a the best way because you are it that your heart sinks in that moment. I think that's where Spielberg is master than this.
He doesn't overplay a lot of the shots. He keeps things at a distance or when he does like a clever shot like the zooming. It's like a one off he won't repeat it. So you like not to play like when you've got like J.J.
Abrams, he does the lens flares and literally everything you can see. This is kind of like a. How is he supposed to know you're in the future Paul? Let's play it all.
It helps me out in the 25th century. Or if you do like the summary and you're like kind of following through like she doesn't like your signature. It's there's a lot of different aspects. Spielberg doesn't kind of all clear but just to touch on what you said as well, I'm gonna get me sore box a little bit as well.
Oh great. Take a seat everyone. Because I'm taking a couple of weeks off and he's come back with the soapbox. It's one thing that I do heart on and like I've said it numerous times on the podcast a lot.
It's always scarier or when the director or when the movie lets you make your thoughts or use your imagination. It's what you don't see is more scary than what you're doing. A lot of modern horror movies don't always kind of get that. I think I was sure this gory death or this monster thing which again sometimes kind of habits play us.
But if you look at like I just said the Texas Chainsaw Massacre or even Halloween stuff, it's the things that you don't say like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre I've said in New Times it's very little blood. There's very little thing. It's more noise screaming. It's like grabbing someone pulling the door.
It's like you kind of imagine what's happening behind that. Oh here in someone get put under a hook or here in someone. And when Jaws did it because with the technique the camera guy actually made himself, he made the box where it's basically the level of the water is like all we're going to show like a certain level where it's basically what's under that murky water. You never see where your feet is.
You never see what's there. It's like what could you be standing on it? What could be nibbling on your toes and stuff? It's like I bet you have seen this now and each one of us has curled our toes a little bit under our head.
I actually have my foot curled round because I am in a constant state of I can't do the same as I thought. I feel like something that's trying to see is coming in to see is I can't do it a little bit. But I'm not saying I'm like what if I can't see it? They've also not seen me down this deck of the woods and the water is very clear.
You genuinely can't see it. Like what's that shark? What's that shark? It's the only thing I feel to be looking towards like oh what could it be but yeah it's like that fear of the unknown that is always going to be scary.
Like again if this movie showed the shark all the way through and stuff that unknown aspect when we actually see the shark for the first time like when it's like I know could you get a little bit of a glimpse during the killing of the little boy I can't remember the boys near now with like when it's like um Alex actually. That's it. The killing of the boy. Alex.
Um and all when they filmed that scene that would take so many different shots because the problem is the kid couldn't steal the water long enough so you kept them popping up and that's where it was starting getting real brooding. Oh professional. They couldn't like any of the shots. Shut up.
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. That was the first.
That was the first. That was the first. That was the first. I do not contain the travelling children.
No you just even do my own hand like you know. But that was the first little glimpse of like a Bruce that we see. Then that was like in the distance and you see like after effect and then we got away at was it in any minutes in the film before we actually see the full shark or. And you only see him for four minutes.
He's only in the whole mill. The whole movie he's only in it for four minutes but I didn't know it was because I generally didn't know what until right now was because he was broken. Yeah. I did not know that at all.
What I want to do for just a second before I forget to do it is we need to see a huge thank you and well done for Werner Fields who was the editor of this movie. She did a fantastic job putting this shit together. She really she did that good of a job. She went in Academy Award for it.
This was the this basically I don't want to say it didn't by any stretch of it. It was doing very well without this but without her skill this movie doesn't look as good as what we wanted to go off. Really really doesn't. I just wanted to make a massive mention of Werner Fields.
She was there she was incredible. One thing again I think it would be a good point to talk about. Let's just celebrate the cast in this movie as well because whenever they hit what they did like the people they got involved and all it would have been very different with the people who was meant to be clear the certain roles that they got but Richard Rifis is just a godsend in this movie even though he had been in this movie when he's come out and said it afterwards he thought the movie was going to be terrible. Telly actually watched the movie and was like shit this actually worked but his as hot is kind of like the light energy that kind of where if I don't think if they didn't have him in this movie it would be very dark and not as like because the certain actors are the certain times where you need a little bit of light a little bit of comedy a little bit of to bring in and to change the tone and like Robert Shaw as Quinn was again.
I know there was issues with him being on set a time show he said but I can't see anyone else in that role as well I'm even like Rob Scheidt. I can't get to see it. Roy Scheidtne sorry as Martin Brody who is he embodied that role as well like you felt like his like every move and like he actually felt like a family man and an war when they were writing the script and stuff as well. The day before they were sitting with the actors and they were getting tip points to see what the character was so they had huge involvement and huge seer in how these characters went and it's a testament to the people involved that they've got these kind of performances as well.
Well Robert Shaw wrote the well he wrote the final version of the USS Indian Atlas speech. It was written for him by I can't remember somebody involved who was a bit in the Navy and has told him the story and just he needs to fact story he needs the motive for why he hates that shot so much and it's so long and then Robert Shaw said to see the silver give me this like give me this speech and I'll go away and I'll rewrite it because he's writing plays and stuff as well. So he wrote that like cut it all down and that ending is what Robert Shaw wrote so yeah without him that speech I mean yeah. And it's one of the like most intense points of the whole film because you kind of suddenly you feel like like the stakes kind of just amp up.
It is so real. The impact of like the lone survivor but and also there's a touch of like the movie dick kind of revenge. Yeah. Your downfall kind of.
Yeah he's destined because like this is how he's going to keep doing this until he dies doing it. One of the things I've read about it this week I don't know if it's 100% accurate I thought it is because if it's not it could be just like I said movie story or anything. The story of the USS Indianapolis I can't say the word for some reason and it's a true story to get it in the movie they had to get it declassified because it was a class like everything that happened on there on the mission was classified it was like it wasn't like it's one of those stories what isn't out there I've been told because the US movie didn't like wouldn't know to get it in the movie they had to get declassified so they would allow it to be the speech to be in now I've read it somewhere I've not heard anyone say it so again that could be made making sure but I think it'd be really interesting if it was true. I'm willing to believe it.
I like it. It doesn't say whether it is I'm not you know all it says is and the Wikipedia page for the USS Indianapolis is in the scene in the 1975 movie Jaws one of the main characters quent the entire scene and her thinking into a wider public spot like 30 years after the events occurred so it doesn't say whether or not it was classified or classified yeah would they tell you if it was or wasn't I don't know I do I love that scene and maybe so right you are is such a real moment where because up until that point it's felt adventurous and everyone's gonna get shocked and yeah let's do this and then all of a sudden the realization kicks in that shit this is real this is you know so once being through something just as bad and how he delivers it is a masterclass in acting it is perfect and also there's also this thing in that quent that Shora is doing as quent which I find fascinating and I think probably speaks to real life experiences of his relationship to alcohol where you have this very jovial sing song that's personality that then falls into this kind of like very intense kind of the reason I drink is to escape this yes but then when the crisis hits it's all packed in of the vessel oh he's so serious and he goes from being incredibly drunken jovial to can you put down that fire like it just like it just very very and I find it and but all times you believe he's he's cut the whole time yeah that bit when he starts hearing the him like brook it and he goes to the fire and you see that and it feels very compelling to watch him change he like changes the tone and the energy of the whole scene it's like I love it it's like I could watch his moments you know exactly it makes me want to go watch more Robert Shora because I want to be able to stay look at how he's done other things because if that's him it is like well it was towards the end of his career wasn't it yeah I died two years afterwards I think two years after so what was he like and he's like you know the very very top of it there is one person I think cannot not go unmentioned is the amirzen meh of this well and Mary Hamilton sick vandalism trying to make me a real thing this is a public disgrace I love it yeah the worst thing about it again I know this was filmed like it's in the 70s but this and again when we talk about Jaws the first time not to get to political has been stuff as well it's so true to life and it's so irritating that things like this would happen in real life if like people think all the money like the one I can say about the before is during the pandemic when we're coming out the first time that I lock down when the government decided good ideas like oh eat out the safe like to save so they'll get in people to go into restaurants and give money off while the pandemic was still in full throw it's like have you not watched doors and learn lessons the big shark that's not a shark this time it's a disease you're getting us to play with that and stuff you know it's amazing that people in power are in an type of situation still nearly stupid mistakes or like and again it's on screen it's on cinema that that's why it works so well because it's so fucking true yeah 100% where the mayor talks the coroner into changing the coroner's decision what is the most it's one of the most chilling moments in the film I think because you can just see the tragedy stretch out before you write at the beginning it's you know what it gives it's the same it's it gives me the same feelings as pologust for some reason there's a scene where Brody is like shaking him and like because of like the realization and he's getting him assigned to get you know quint on board and whatnot and you just see the realization he's basically shit what the fuck are you on and you get that same realization in pologust with the whole you move the bodies but you move the headstones but you never move the bodies and you have to realize asian there and then I only just watch the fog not long ago and it was the first time Jamie Lee Curtis and no wasn't Jamie Lee it was the mum Janet Lee Janet Lee had such a mare moment throughout that whole thing this ceremony was going ahead hell or high fucking water but when she had the facts put in front of her she went yeah this is not happening I was like oh my god is that what it's like is that what it's like? I'm not sure unless it's not Mary Hamilton players absolutely perfect I want his blazer I'm pretty sure that's what I was happy I was lazy if anyone can find me that grave blazer with white anchors on all the wheel pea humanie it is fantastic the water pea way oh the water pea way isn't it is so proud and I get it I do get the fact that you know little towns like that rely on you know money to come in but you got to ask yourself what cost is it worth the people who you know you want them to pay money you don't want to die for it and you also have like he has growth in character like like it's very slow it's real slow but real slow that last moment when he's like my son was on that beach too and you see the kind of like the gravity of what he's done hit him yeah yeah yeah yeah he is he is he is so good and it's like so so good and I just wanted to make sure we go for mention and obviously the sick vandalism line is one of my favorites sicker vandalism I'd like to give a shout out to the people that are the lesser known people in the film which is the child fish arks guy who I absolutely love oh what he's my favorite also the Ben Gardner character when he's on the boat and he's got his little like black and red plate on and he's like sailing through when they're going out and he's talking does that thing about how I remember he says he's so big a bad bit better than I was my mother's brother's brother and they just he was just like a resident I think I'm not sure if I let him go. I don't know if I left this guy.
Just like, actually, favourite. The people in the town hall as well, I just like, I just like, I can face it in that crowd. Do you know, there is one bit of this whole movie that makes me feel a little uncomfortable and it is shock and given that the subject matter of the whole thing is something that I am incredibly interested in, but it's the morgue scene, whether it's doing the autopsy. Oh, as we mentioned, it's brilliant.
Oh my goodness. That, that, that, like, that gives me, like, for me as well. That gives me chills, like, to the point where I, like, it's living in a morgue place. Well, I thought that was where you thrived.
It is, but it's, honestly, it just gives it, I can feel it. I don't know, it's that, and another movie as well, that I'm not saying because it's something that we are going to be doing in the future, but it's when they put the stuff off, like, up there, like, there, and also, like, the vehicle. I know exactly what the hell they're talking about. Yeah, and it just makes us feel so uncomfortable.
I'm getting warm thinking about it, because it's not a nice feeling or a place to be in, even though I would live in there if I had the opportunity, but for some reason, that, just that one right there. Doesn't sit right where there's a freaks us out of it. Yeah, and I'm happy you've mentioned the, the morgue scene, because I think it's, it's not often talked about, but the performance in there as well. Like, you've got the Martin Brody, the Roy Shire, Shire, is innocent in that where he's just like, oh, this is what the toilet's in this, like, he's never seen a shark attack or anything.
So he's just, these are the body parts that left. And it's like Richard Dreyse's, Matt Hopper, who's in sore, incredulous, in fury, like, sees fury, and he's just trying to keep himself together, but he's, like, controlled, trying to, and he's given out, like, taught and threw it as a, like a, as a scholar would, like, someone in that situation, like, talking about all the different, like, the technical terms he uses. And it's like, the moment he's in there, he can tell there's no comfort for him. He's, he in every second, and he's just wanting to do a space he do the best job he's can.
Yeah. And you can tell how angry, but he's trying to ruin me in professional, in one of the most fun professional places that he's probably ever been in as well. Yeah. And his, then, after that moment, then, is his delve to being one of the most childish people as well, where he's making comments and all that, they're all going off to die and stuff like that.
And then, he's already working at that. Yeah, he's been all petrined with the music. Oh, I can't deal with this person's being ridiculous. In more, again, they're trying to, he's trying to help, but he's just, because he's not getting his way.
And then his interactions with, uh, on the board is just hilarious when he's getting taught to make the ship not and he's just like, so like, this is so beneath me and stuff like that. And it just grows from then on, like, again, and all Richard Dreyse probably does get the plot as he deserves what he has magnificent in this movie. And he's, he has, he's upset a few people this week, so cancel the appearance. Oh, well.
I mean, I mean, I was thinking exactly the same thing. How old is he? He's a lot. Yeah.
I was worried when you said he doesn't set people. I was like, oh, no, not Richard Dreyse too. No, no, no, no, you've been frozen in yours and closing. Yeah.
Yeah. I was done by me. Oh, and Sam by me. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of my mum's favourite films, so I'll never forgive us if we never frozen for that one.
He's 77 people. He's done his time. He's not feeling well. Just don't have one social media.
We don't have anyone, anyone famous people on social media. That's one of my stuff. But yeah. What's coming?
I love his character in this and I love that the expert who's been brought into do a job that people won't let him do. Yes. From the moment he steps off the boat, they're like, tell those people not to go out and he's like, just instantly in chaos. But do you know what I love more than anything is how quickly I'm in Broadway?
Get on. Like instantly like they're on the same page. They're quite friendly with each other. It feels like they've known each other for a long time.
And when he just like turns out to do this. Yeah. Of course you're fine. I don't know what you're saying.
Well, yeah. Are you going to eat that just takes someone else's place? Yeah. He's so comfortable with them.
There's just such a kindred spirit between the two of them. I do, if I just want to talk about another favourite one of my things before I forget it is where Brody gives his son the boat. And for his birthday, I think his mother's like, you know, he's always just sitting on the boat. He's not in the water.
And then she's looking at the shark boog while she's talking. It's very similar to the screams of the kid to get out. Almost. Yeah.
I love that scene. It's so great timing though from it's okay. It's totally fine. And then just seeing like horrible shark attacks and then just no.
Get out. That's the thing. That's one of those scenes that nothing happened. But again, give me fear of the water.
Like after watching that scene, I was like, I'm not going to know what. Like you've got no chance. Like literally say that you want to get you on the boat. It's the shark and get you on the boat.
I can get you on the boat. And then you land on the boat. And obviously that is such a call back to later on when the shark does eventually get into the Granny Bay. you know the granny pillars the college and it's the board that he goes for first and knocks so if he doesn't do that the kids are fucked they are they are shark food basically so that board was such a um saving grace i mean sorry for the dude who was honored to have gotten like but yeah i love that scene little moments like that and this again comic relief like you do find that part really funny it's also one of the reasons why it's hard to sit like like all of the chaos behind the camera was well documented but it's almost hard to believe when you when you see like the breakdown callbacks happening because actually the final film feels so cohesive yeah yeah that is kind of it feels like it's been well-visioned but actually it's just not problem solved incredible bits of like i always think of when brodie's trying he's learning how to tie a knot and it's taken him ages and he ties that knot and he's like i did it and then there's that noise from the what and you're like it's like one kind of excitement that way it's cut and then when he's charming you know when he had like the you know and the step ahead i thought he had a good problem and one of them and it comes up with his head both yeah that bit of it for me yeah yeah at the most moment one of the most famous line in cinema history and it was ad-libbed wasn't even in the script we're gonna need a bigger board yes we're absolutely absolutely jingus and he has just killed with a very guffied head and it's took and it is one of the most famous lines in movie history sort of movie history as well because this the ending goes down in infinity as like one of the beak-reaziest scenes as well i'll come to another one what was done by mrk which i found out this week which blew my mind i'll be completely honest with but um the bit that they tried to do on mythbusters to prove to see if the shark would blow up the contest they actually disproved that it would actually work unfortunately i fucking hate mythbusters i absolutely hate them shattering shattering dreams exactly they really do it's like Neil deGrasse Tyson when he's like well bb8 if he was a real drug he wouldn't have been able to rule across it and fuck off Neil deGrasse Tyson exactly but how do you get out of this exactly how do i do that job leave the sort of planet alone as well leave the little round robots there piece exactly and mythbusters can get fucked as well yeah so like didn't i know but how did you feel about the end and or did you feel like it kind of tied everything up in a nice little ball i think though i think it needed to be massive like yeah it felt like it needed to be massive and i think it's enough there's enough throughout that you know compressed air you know like who said at the beginning about like messing around with these um so i think it's following all this yeah it's enough to kind of i think they were talking about the idea of him like jumping down on it and then i was like that's unrealistic so we'll shoot it but for me i just yeah like that bit when bready is you know just like blow up and you're like yeah just fucking blow up and then i think it had to be big other like you know after everything has happened like yeah especially you've just you've just not lost quint so you kind of are a bit heartbroken over that so you really do want this to be like a massive chescendo but can i just ask i only wash it a few weeks ago and and i don't know i don't know if this is me just me it being me but does anyone else feel the end is just slightly rushed just a little bit so there's like i feel like there was a moment where we went we're here to here it was all good there's certain elements to it and this is the bit i was going to come to did you know there was only possible one side i know i didn't but i'm so proud that you got to did you know in there i've waited a long time for you to say that go on sorry people was meant to die and it was it was a freak accident with the filming because there's only one live shark seen in in the jaws film it's one night it was a real one real one it was a cage it was the cage that was filmed in australia and they could only find 15 15 12 foot they needed a 25 footer for a thousand so what they did they built the cage smaller and this is spielberg's words not mine they found a little person to go in the cage uh-huh they give it uh i know Richard riff is in the biggest people to try and make the shark look bigger they turned away while they were still filming and the shark attacked the cage and got on top of it and got all the film and they're like we will never get that shot again of having a shark on top of the cage and dragging it down but the problem was there was no one in the cage so with with the being the one in the cage they couldn't film who was death so what they did is they changed the film and had hupa scurry away and the shark destroyed the cage and have hupa survived so that happy accident meant that's a bit of a badness i i i so i didn't feel it was rushed i i also think it had to be a big it had to be ending because they like spielberg has held you in suspense this entire film yeah you have to have a big chaos otherwise you end up with like a kind of clover thing where the big reveal just feels actually kind of like oh that's not actually as bad as we had this whole time felt yeah yeah no i thought that actually the first 90% of this film and i kind of like the bigness and the way that the pacing like like while they're at see the pacing kind of goes slow and then it starts to speed up and then maybe yeah maybe yeah and then you have the kind of big hollywood block buster end to a potentially car chase but with a boat in the shark i know what you mean though i think in terms of like that's it like very both of them up and then and then they swim into shore and then that's it yeah it's just it's just it's it's i'm not saying this is conjointed or anything like that it's just the last watch i just was like oh i thought this went on a little longer and maybe that's just being like you know really greedy and one in this hall like anyone's jazz the revenge that's what you want you know what i've never seen any of the other ones i've only ever seen jaws which will not be a surprise to anyone but yeah i've only ever seen jaws and i wouldn't mind watching the other ones but what i'm interested in now and i really i'm going to kick myself and i've done beforehand all watching the documentaries that are out there on it because i didn't realize like and berry we've already done an episode on this this is so shocking my memory is i didn't i couldn't remember the like all the craziness that went on around production of it and i always heard that mr vignette had issue but that could have just yeah i could have just pulled that out of anywhere to be fed up i think mr vignette still live on the fact that they've got chores like they still have t-shirts and send jaws was filmed by yeah i follow i follow up a podcast and team who they went last year um for a holiday and i was saying they're huge jaws fans i've got some fantastic photos but i want to go for more to only just go and do the bridge jump just want to go and just want to go and jump off that bridge just to see i jump off that bridge i'd love to go on this year like all the magic and the documentary is out next week i think oh is it the next geographic one yeah i think it's correct oh yes yes because the person's protest he had something to do with it because he's a his collection on jaws he's called Jacob Walsh and he's part of the yes i've some podcast team his collection of jaws is just it's out of this well he even has the barrels like the actual barrels if real full size i'll find one of his videos of his collection because he's like a little bit glass on top i just want to know what his house is like a little museum it's on it's crazy but he's got something of the most rarest of rare jaws um collectibles we're just talking about the barrels as well how fucking clever is this movie that whenever you see a barrel popped out the water you've got fucking chills yes i do i was like waiting for barrels i was like this to make yellow barrels exciting in affection it's not show the shark but to create but to see the illusion with the barrel yeah and the guys when the guys are like at the beginning when the guys are out at night and they're tracking their like christmas ham or whatever it is and yeah it's going to catch the danger to that like chase and you can see the dock like moving again without showing anything but just showing that like dot moving closer closer yeah oh that is just classic movie making as well like it's a bit in switch it's like um it's almost like seeing going back to the wall side of the film where you see the damsel and distress are tied to the real wheel line you see the tree incoming it's like how will you untie us with us the fact that they've got that in this movie is where one of the idiots gives the the roasts to the shark pulls the dock away and you see them clamoring up and it's almost like a scooby-doo-esque moment where these legs are going round and circles it's like is he going to make it and you're like i've seen that movie like literally other said probably so hundred times and each time i get close to the taping one is he going to get him this time yeah is it going to change yeah yeah and that's how good this movie is like the elements to it like them little aspects is this is why this movie make mistakes and again i know i didn't want to do like a talk for movies but it's hard not to but i want what i want to ask you is as well this is going to be hard for you i don't know what he's already talking about the scenes but what is your favorite scene of moment in this movie oh what if one that one that i've already mentioned oh i'm telling you what i do like is when they were the first images to quint hmm he's on the chalkboard yeah that's a part of a horror movie and it's great that it's great that it's like a huge draw to shark with a little yeah he's either the one that's doodle the shark with a little kid in it or someone else has and why would you do that he's literally just lost her child in this room and it was one of the worst drawn pictures of a shark i have ever seen yeah i i think for me my absolutely like there's so many like every time i watch this film i never get bored so many things i'm always like the next one but i just for me i think it's always it is when they're in it's when they're in the cabin and they're done like quits on the speech and they're singing show me the way to go home and like and i think it is just like that i don't know just that banging against the boat and hearing in the boat i think it's just because that's what i remember something it has a kid like i just remember that being so that moment being so terrifying just they're like banging on the tables but then anyone else do you get a little bit teary when they're singing that song especially when they all like get into it i'm like i get really emotional i'm like oh god and then they do the whole scar thing like showing off this guy and who hasn't done that that's what i love about that scene as well the reason is this one it's like every emotion you can think of you get upset you get sad you get happy you laugh it's very lads lads lads lads lads scene like because you don't mind it though it's kind of like oh it's like when we used to like open the rugby loft and all that lads and you said oh look i've got this stuff i'm just like oh please shanties it all happened oh no please but like for that one moment though for that one moment there's no argument there's no bitches there's no talk about sharks there's no nothing but just them singing and as they start to get more into it because it's same richard drifers who started off to then the all-star oh no yeah yeah yeah yeah and then he starts with that and it just builds up and builds up and then all the majini and then the all just banging on the table and i get really fucking emotional listening to it i don't want that minute to end but because it reminds us of red dwarf it's so weird it literally takes me because of the red dwarf is singing that i think it's rim is death day and this thing and that song is well and i'm like oh remember he is but no i do get it really is because of the fact that we're in such a moment of calm and chill and they're all for once they're all on the same page with each other just a little bit like what's going on and then just a second it comes literally knocking on the boat yeah quite literally but the scarns as well i got this one well i got this one oh this one now like my heart yeah well i think my favorite bit is where they've like they've attached themselves to the shark and they're doing and the engines are burning and they're doing that kind of like chase through the water and then suddenly you have that like you know they realize that they're gonna have to either cut the shark loose or do something and you have that kind of moment of like trying to like figure out what they could do and then suddenly it's like you have that kind of like real peak moment and quince trying to get them like yeah he's like yeah yeah yeah and he just the whole time when they're in in the business of it he's so like just like yeah yeah okay he's just he's the one that they rely on and seeing like they're the kind of younger men as they kind of like panic as they're trying to um yeah as they're trying to catch the shark only for them to realize they're gonna have to if they want to like keep the boat they're gonna have to put in a real scary moment after that as well I think it's done really well because as you said quince the captain he's always in control and you always think they've been in control then he has as I said he have moment where he realized he's smashed the video and then he's forcing the mortars past how strong it could be because he's realizing now that he's fought that when you say him panicking and just basically losing it you think are they actually gonna make it that that's why yeah that's not a question and it goes from like and what I really love is that at the beginning of that scene you have everyone's got a job to do and they've all planned it's kind of the plan is in action and it seems to be working only for it to then twist and they lose control and things start to go wrong he has that kind of like no we're in this now there's no way like my legacy will be complete like it feels we are like we're committing to this and he has like a weird line about the taxi like I can't wait to show the taxi dermis yeah and then in the next moment he's smashed the radio and it's like we're basically in this to the death yes like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like yeah and he goes from being like friendly jovial captain like ally to actually someone who has committed them to like serious mortal danger and I love the the the shift in quint in that moment is really fascinating to watch it's almost demonic in a way like this is all about he's very captain ahab that's exactly what I thought of when I saw that I was like oh this is this is maybe difficult action this is revenge at all costs there's a scene of bit earlier as well that's said shit is damn he's fine because like Martin Brody in this is sort is like a is the innocent he's there as an everyday person just to the experience it but he realizes something that's happening that the other two don't and it scares it scared me I don't know if like if it was thing it's just a simple line it's like shouldn't we be trying to like bring the like make the shark back follows to sure what seems like the sharks dragon us further and further say so it's almost like he realizes that therefore into the the the sharks trap which again I didn't realize it till like I've watched it a few times and I got a while ago but when I was younger I never really kind of got that aspect to it yeah so kind of not just for a little bit I was like oh shit I the sharks a lot clever and like then what gives it what probably the people are given it all was meant to be for but it's just like yeah such a chilling scary little thought of thing or the sharks playing with its food it's like same come with me yeah come with me type thing yeah I like that and I feel like both men and sharper trying to exhaust each other yeah the ball track the ball player game with each other yeah it's both a tugging which took a war game I actually have some alternative customs if you're interested charan has someone wasn't it for a quint quint yet and but as feel like I know and for the role for the role of Brody I it's what you'd be able to not imagine anyone else playing in these parts but Brody was originally offered to Robert de Val first okay I like it I don't think I thought you were gonna say Robert Redford and I was like I could kind of see that I could actually kind of see that yes but no Robert de Valle for Brody yes Charlton Hessen expressed a desire to Spielberg was like no no thank you um for and there was also Lee Marvin and Sterling Hayden offered the roles of Quinton they passed it up and Spielberg really wanted John Voight um Timothy Botton's Gene Meigle Vincent, Joel Gray and Jeff Bridges um but it was George Lucas who said I've just done American Graffiti and Richard Dreyfus is perfect for this role and you know them two being the best as buddies at the work they went down the role with their Richard Travers.
I've returned it down two times before he actually took the role. Jeff Bridges is way too cool for that. Yeah yeah I like it. Could you imagine the dude?
Yeah you would want me to be like yeah like neurofibular. What am I gonna be? Shit did any of you have you been to Florida and got on the ride? No I would love to.
I got my universal studios cup though. No I love that. Oh I've been on it so many times. I didn't appreciate it.
I didn't appreciate the first time I went on it it was just it was it's more around the area so until I saw the film and then I started to piece it all together that area where Joel is is Martha's Vineyard. It's all set out to look like Martha's Vineyard and obviously you've got the big giant shark that you know you've photographed taken but the ride itself the smells is unreal. When you, so you have flesh is flesh is pure flesh it absolutely stinks when they do the when they have the big like blowout moment at the end and you kill the shark and you save the day. Um yeah it absolutely stinks but it was such a fantastic ride such a shame that it's got why it went I'll never understand why Universal thought that was a good idea to get rid of.
I don't know if I'm going to have a list of how I thought of them. I can think of why they might have thought that was a good idea. Yeah it's a shame. It's one of because I know apparently the like Universal's getting built down and it's one of the ones I hope they do bring back but from talking to like people like when I was there in Florida it's just about licensing where to get their licensing for the rides and stuff they only last for so long.
Yeah the back of the future one needed to go. Oh my god by the end it's not. No it was so good. I went on it probably over lost boys now back to the future.
It was at the ride it was down south. It's got a good ring to it. Oh shut up. What I was saying was is that it was to shovels.
They weren't looking after it. So the weren't it was literally when you when you go in it you do feel like it's in a delorean unless you literally land just a little bit further forward and you could see everybody because the whole thing was just it was tattered it was torn there was no love in there anymore so I can so understand it was a good ride though. It was a good ride though. The only thing because they were Florida very different to the UK and other places health and safety wasn't one of their strong points so as Sammy said when the shark was blown up the flames got to the point where it it could sit high.
It was an interesting take coming out without their eyelashes. Why do you think I drove for a very long time? I lost some in jaws. It's an interesting way to highly point out because the merchandise that has came from Oh yeah.
It's got one of the most iconic posters like the t-shirt range was out there and all for the 50th anniversary now which we are celebrating like the things that you can go out and buy for jaws now. I'm sure a few things I've just been buying like the Funko Pops. That is so cool. That's the big one that's in if you've got the universal studios now is the the cup it's like a jaws cup that you buy for 50 dollars.
Yeah, it's about 60 dollars to buy if you buy it on ebay and stuff like that so it's not going to go in my collection at any time soon. Oh and that's not the only one that's going to go to Florida now. So what was it just isn't a mug? It's just like you know the cups you get where you got like it's not a mug it's like a refillable kind of yeah but they do like themed ones every swaffing but everyone's going crazy for the jaws one because it just looks hilarious.
I'll put a picture in the discord and stuff when we've done. Yeah, would you? Because these ones like look like I could make them so I'm guessing that's not the ones that we're looking at. The thing is that with jaws it's 50 years old now it doesn't feel like a 50-year-old and I still think in 100 years we'll be still talking about jaws at the same level at the same intensity.
I know the sequels have a wide variety of success shall we say and even had the piss take out a bit from time to time like if you watch back to the future too they have the hologram where jaws 16 comes out and get you and stuff like that which is just hilarious. I think again just to I know that's because if there's anything else you just want to talk about just to wrap up a little bit as well. Yeah it's one of those films that was lightning and the ball it probably is a film that the way they wanted to we wouldn't have got the movie we got. It was a happy accident to me.
It's a happy accident to a degree and as you mentioned before a god send with editing and a god send with the right people involved who were willing to basically go out in the limb and I know we talk about cinema releases now when a movie comes out it's probably six four weeks then it's starting to come on digital download and then you can buy it rent. This movie was on the cinemas for a full year after its release. It was released in July people in December and January was still going to see this movie after cinema. Imagine if that happened now how angry people would be because come watch me perform.
That'd be fucking raging. That's crazy. I've just seen the club by the way that looks absolutely glass and pure money and I look so good and pay money for that. People actually just want the parks to get them up and walk out the parks.
Yeah no telling me. Oh 100% of the florida's on me doorstep. I'm like yeah I'm just up in the universe. I'm just just gonna pick a cup up.
There we go. I'll take a case for the like George. Oh yeah just imagine universal stuff. What are you doing with that?
What do you think? I'm not going to pick the whole thing but this is me crying to play us. I do have the lego set as well. Oh I feel like I've got a lot of stuff.
Honestly the merch this time not just now it's been like the last few years. I have an awesome t-shirt that I generally just cannot find which is probably one of the nicest printed jaw is like on a t-shirt because it feels like it's not like a transfer like one of my now feels like a transfer. I wish I could have done it actually. It's really nice.
So again I know I've talked a lot so I'm going to do a culture. Anything that you guys want to mention or say about all things we haven't talked about that you really want to get out of the way? I think you're the only one that I use too. Go on Holly you look like you're about to say something.
No I was just going to say I don't think so I think like yeah I mean it's nice to be asked to come on and chat about a film that is just so much massive. I mean my friends and family like pretty much every single person I know I've made to see it at some point and if I don't quote the whole thing throughout they're lucky and they get switched off in five minutes. It's such a funny thing when the film is like such a massive part of your life. But I think we've kind of talked quite a lot about it.