500,000 Kids Targeted Daily on Meta. This Expert Has Been in the Room. | Outcry Witness Unspoken

An Instagram account could rack up 16 violations for sex trafficking before being suspended on the 17th. That is not a glitch. That is a policy. This is the conversation Meta does not want you to hear.About This EpisodeHaley McNamara has spent more than a decade inside the rooms where tech companies are asked to protect children — and where they quietly refuse. As Executive Director and Chief Strategy Officer at the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, she has written the recommendations, engaged the companies, and testified under oath. This episode is where that decade lands. JoDee and Haley walk through the 17 strikes policy, Section 230, the Dirty Dozen list, and what it means that for the first time this year, NCOSE named a person — not just a company.Meet Your Host: JoDee NeilJoDee Neil is a former prosecutor, survivor, author, and fierce advocate for women and children. With over twenty years in the courtroom and a deeply personal journey of healing, JoDee brings rare expertise and real compassion to every conversation. She is the author of Outcry Witness: A Former Prosecutor's Guide to Healing and Justice After Sexual Violence.Featured Guest: Haley McNamara, Executive Director & Chief Strategy Officer, NCOSEHaley McNamara is one of the most knowledgeable voices in the country on how tech platforms enable sexual exploitation. She has worked inside NCOSE for over a decade, led the organization's corporate engagement strategy, and was deposed as an expert witness in the New Mexico Meta trial. She is not theorizing. She has been in the room.Episode Timestamps [00:00] — Introduction[02:59] - Scale of Exploitation Amplified by AI[04:01] - The Vast Hidden Problem[04:55] - Tech Companies Prioritize Profit Over Safety[09:46] - Section 230: The Legal Shield for Big Tech[13:48] - A First Crack in Section 230’s Armor[15:35] - Internal Meta Data Reveals Massive Abuse[16:42] - Meta’s Tolerance for Exploitation[17:46] - Section 230 Protects Dating Apps Too[27:51] - The Overwhelming Burden on Parents[35:56] - Google Chromebooks and School Safety Failures[38:43] - Envisioning a Safer Online World[40:28] - Global Tech Regulation ExamplesKey TakeawaysAn Instagram account could accumulate 16 trafficking violations before being suspended — sourced from sworn deposition testimony unsealed in November 2024As of 2020, Instagram had no dedicated report button for child sexual abuse material — engineers said it was too much work to build500,000 children are targeted daily on Meta platformsBig Tech spends approximately $200 million per year lobbying Congress — roughly ten times the gun lobbyThe bipartisan Sunset Section 230 Act, introduced December 2025 by Senators Durbin and Graham, would repeal the law two years after passageTAKE YOUR NEXT STEP🗓️ Book Your Outcry Witness Strategy Session A private, ninety-minute session with JoDee designed to help survivors navigate healing, understand their options, and move forward with clarity and confidence. 👉 https://jodeeneilcom.as.me/OutcryWitnessStrategySession📖 Grab JoDee's Book — Outcry Witness A former prosecutor's guide to healing and justice after sexual violence. Part memoir, part practical guide, entirely for survivors. 👉 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1965766196/🔗 Follow Haley McNamara's Work Visit endsexualexploitation.org and search the Dirty Dozen List to see which platforms and products made the list this year.🏢 Corporate and Workplace Consulting 👉 https://jodeeneilcom.as.me/StrategySessionForVistageMembers🎤 Inquire about JoDee Speaking 👉 [email protected]