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EPISODE · Jul 13, 2026 · 50 MIN

52. Welcome to the Liminal Space (Buckle Up!)

from At Work with The Ready · host Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin

Volatility is just the new normal, and it's crushed everyone's appetite for complexity at the exact moment complexity demands attention. Executives who used to love a whiteboard now say "just tell me the answer." Five-year plans read as fiction within months. Employees trust leadership less than ever and with AI in the mix the old moats (talent, pricing, product, position) are eroding or gone. So what's left? In this episode, Rodney sits down with Sam Rothkopf, co-steward of The Ready, to lay out the firm's new thesis: durable competitive advantage is the ability to execute in complexity, and the organizations that win will be the ones built to benefit from change. They get into why discernment beats endless experimentation, why execution is strategy now, and what it looks like when a company gets it right. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Sam Rothkopf "stewardship": Miniseries episode Jon Roth Sky & Depthfinding IKEA's AI and virtual design transformation "Transfo A and Transfo B": AWWTR Ep. 43 "Action Meetings": BNW Ep. 80 with Sam Spurlin 00:00 Intro and Check-In: what have you completely changed your mind about? 05:09 The moment: volatility has killed our appetite for complexity 06:39 "Just tell me the answer" 09:30 AI speeds you up, but doesn’t change your direction 12:54 The old playbooks are defunct and leadership trust is at an all time low 17:41 Built to benefit from change is the future 21:42 Experimenting that leads to new outcomes 23:48 Finding your business’ spark 27:16 Example: IKEA finding their spark 30:44 Finding your spark doesn’t have to be a journey 37:04 Where The Ready’s thinking has evolved 38:00 What "execution is strategy" actually means 42:00 Treat volatility as a resource + the transfo A/B conversation 43:34 Sam’s disposition towards change and volatility 47:16 The inner work: creativity needs a grounded self 48:00 Wrap up—Leave us a review Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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