522: Liz Robbins on Writing "See It to Be It" with Billie Jean King

Joe Favorito welcomes award-winning journalist and author Liz Robbins to discuss her new book, See It to Be It: 11 Champions Leading Women’s Sports Today, written in collaboration with Billie Jean King and Ilana Kloss. Robbins shares the origin story of the project, which began with a 50th anniversary piece she wrote for the International New York Times on the US Open’s milestone of achieving equal pay, and how a chance email to Kloss sparked a creative partnership that ultimately became the book. The conversation explores how Robbins and King selected the book’s eleven athletes, including Caitlin Clark, Naomi Osaka, Chelsea Gray, Mackenzie Coan, and flag football pioneer Diana Flores, balancing household names with emerging stars across a diverse range of sports, backgrounds, and identities. Robbins explains the philosophy behind the selections, emphasizing champions who are not only elite competitors but advocates driving change within and beyond their sports, and shares the stories behind some of the book’s most memorable moments, including two athletes who broke down in tears upon learning Billie Jean King wanted them involved. Robbins also reflects on her own career path from Cornell lacrosse player to New York Times reporter covering the NBA, the US Open, and immigration, and what she would tell young journalists today about storytelling, persistence, and the enduring power of knowing your subject deeply.Connect with Liz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-robbins-493277108/Subscribe to the CUSP Show: SubstackThe CUSP Show is hosted by Joe Favorito (@Joefav) and Tom Richardson (@ConvergenceTR) and produced by Sam Henry (@s_henry11), LJ Holmgren (@LJ_Holmgren), and Danny Hagenlocher (@DhColumbiaSPS), with social media efforts led by Lissa Ruiz and Sydney Cristall. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thecuspshow.substack.com