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Apr 19, 2017 1 hr 38 min

53 - Hearts in Atlantis (2001)

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GET ME MOONFACE! That's right: it's David Morse back up in it with HEARTS IN ATLANTIS. He's not actually in it all that much but it's nice to see his big face. This movie is on the boring side of King movies so we have a hard time staying on topic. But that's fun right? Also Rob is baffled by the most basic hair and makeup disguise. Get weekly episodes and request movies on our Patreon: https://patreon.com/kingmepod Email us at: [email protected] Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/kingmepod/ Subscribe/rate/review on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/king-me/id1071620322?mt=2 Subscribe & rate on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fWr5bSjFLtCDRda6oCeIW?si=84c3c8b55a294467

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Well, I guess that's one reason not to touch an old man this week on King me What if one of life's greatest mysteries moved in upstairs? This is hearts in Atlantis King me King me welcome to King me the unofficial Stephen King movie podcast the official podcast of what were you guys? I was gonna say the official podcast of getting yourself king. Oh and also as the official Stephen King movie podcast That's right.

I forgot we changed them. We're better now. Yeah, also I just want to you know if you like the theme song. It's by a band called the Ramones out of New York.

Mm-hmm Listen, hey if they're playing in your town check them out. Hey if they're all alive Something's a miss you've woken up in a different timeline And if you bought tickets to see the Ramones you've been ahead you got fleas'd what do you want? Some some Joe Pesci type probably said hey, what do you want to and you said yes, sir? Well actually three my friend just texted me he wants in to says I didn't ask for your life story.

Yes, sir, of course Yes, sir, of course. You're being very deferential to this street rat scalper. Yeah, you got good They work in person now mostly. I'll say this about the person buying these tickets.

Yeah, they got manners mama raise them right I'm dang egg we already I'm a avon this week. We're talking about we're happy new millennium We did it we got out of the old 20th century left it in the dust fuck that stuff right okay What is our first post 9 11 movie? Yep? You can feel it.

I'm just kidding. It's a movie about like the innocence of the 50s and 60s. Yeah, this came out Looks like two weeks after attack on New York 9 11. I think we all remember where we were when our sit in Atlanta's came out We were in the front row Water tickets late Just kind of slipped our minds.

Yeah, how old were you in 9 11? I was I was 18. Oh wow, so you were like I sure hate my parents, but I do love this country It was a weird time because you know, I don't like graduating high school you're like oh I don't know what I'm gonna do myself. Oh, but I don't have to go there anymore Life is wide open.

This is great Especially in like coming out of like 1999 in 2000. We were really as a country We were just high-fiving all the time and then 9 11 hits 9 11 half of it three months after I graduated from high school So I had the summer off Domestic terrorism and then from then on everything has just been I mean, it's the country's downward spot sure well I mean were you were you feeling angsty about president George W Bush? Not before 9 11. No, you were like this is a good guy.

No, that's a thing like I feel like a lot of people They don't you know when you're in high school. Maybe you're you know conscious of what's going on around you as far as politics and the world and stuff But especially in 2000 when we didn't have terrorists It's a mold stance to take considering the same building that guy But yeah, it's not at that point everybody was just again. Yeah, we were just riding high We were just killing it every day our president played the saxophone for eight years Yeah, he was just a jazz man Yeah, and we might have assaulted an intern totally assaulted it totally but um but then you know He got George Bush in there and and nobody fair What else there was nothing about the guy like yeah at the time like he was just the president and we didn't have to deal Well, he didn't have to do anything at the time and we didn't have he was reading goddamn children's books that morning Yeah, and struggling. Yeah, and yeah at that point I don't think we would have had the the scathing expose about George Bush the rock opera American idiot Oh had not yet been released.

So no one knew that he was a great album an idiot Much less American one sure and I've won him thankful To Billy Joel Armstrong And Mike Dern and Tracol. Yeah, you know Mike Dern got his name. No, this is true. I thought it was Mike Dert It's dirt.

Okay, because that's the sound it made when he played the bass. I'm not kidding They're like dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt dirt. I swear to Christ my best friend Christ. He told you Yeah, that's the one thing he told me that's that's a terrible terrible way to name yourself.

Mm-hmm Well, I mean it when you're standing When you're standing a few feet in front of Tracol, you're fine. Yeah, that's the other like What people used to say Tracol they mm-hmm, you know in the early 90s really? So things were I don't know if they actually say it in clueless But it seems like something they would say in the movie clues and tracol tracol and then he named himself tracol And then everyone immediately stopped saying yeah, well and then that month was over And we all moved on and he was stuck. I wonder what his real name is entree entree cool entree warm warm entree Frank Edwin right the third it sounds like he invented that is that is more punk rock than very cool Oh my god.

Yeah, so much more punk rock, but when your kid you don't know what's punk rock not even if you're in Green Day Yeah, especially especially yeah, do you have the time do you have the time to talk to listen to me jerk off Hey love the melody love the energy gonna want to take a second pass at that first first Doesn't even fit in you just shoved it in yeah, which is it doesn't sound much like jerking it off at all. Yeah, it was me. Oh Bada Bing Deborah the kids do you remember the kids names on everybody loves Raymond the twin I never watched it Ali. I forgot the other twin though.

You've never watched it. No, okay, man. It's your funeral. It's my funeral I don't know Because all these guys come up to come to up to you and ask what the kids names were on everybody loves Raymond They're not all as nice as me.

Okay, one of them's gonna put a slug in your brain. Yeah a gun to my head Mm-hmm. Yeah, if I had all day, I probably would take me until four o'clock p.m. To get all Ali Jeffrey if you know the third The third son if you know the third son on everybody loves Raymond tweet at us.

Yeah, well leave us a five star review with the answer That's a great idea. Yeah, okay new new bit new rule new rule If you're leaving a five star review on the king me iTunes page, yeah, don't pretend to be Stephen K Just do it as though you were you're Barney Gumbel Just tell us the kids name on everybody loves Raymond. Please and thank you speaking of customer reviews That's what they're called. They're our customers.

We provide a service and they pay us money. Yeah More on that in a moment Shawshank Steve Shawshanking Steve. I'm sorry. Why does that sound so familiar?

Well, I think it was the last episode where we we read a bunch of five star reviews from here And he was one of them and he since I think he made a little embarrassed. Oh buddy by what he wrote. Yes So so he changed it and I say good on you. Okay, let's see if the new stuff here comes All right, the title Stephen King the master of horror Impression yours.

No, okay. It is a question. All right Let's see this is a great podcast for fans of humor and fans of movies. So if you like the New Yorker, yeah Where movies where people from Maine are subjected to horrible things as they deserve Yeah, can't get enough of these two book Hayden boys.

Hey, hey books. Hey them never read one. Don't intend to was this helpful? I own one book it was and it's the Bible and it's hollow and there's a gun in it And then I keep my toothbrush and then I keep that size of suitcase.

Yeah, come to think of it. It's a suitcase. No pages I want to thank Shawshanking Steve for showing a bit more respect. Yeah, he talking about titties no more.

Yeah, good on you. I said that first So yeah, that's good. Well and you know what else there's more than one way to support the show. Did you know?

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Yeah, yeah, well, I was done in half the time It was it was it took one quarter less time. I wear Kevin Smith like shorts that come just above the ankle I Wear I wear like Kevin Smith. I wear a hockey jersey for pants It's like they say Gretzky on top Lundquist on bottom those are the two hockey players. I know I don't know one quest Oh, Henrik Lundquist.

He's the goalie for the New York mark. Messier. There's a good one. Hey Messier.

Yeah, what about something with a G? I can't remember Greg Lou gayness The swimmer. Oh, yeah, I mean swimmer in a sense. Yeah, I said aren't all hockey players kind of swimming on frozen.

Oh, yeah I've always said that hearts in Atlantis 2001 directed by Scott Hicks hell. Yeah written the book obviously by Mr Stephen King don't even talk about it and then screenplay by William Goldman Where have I heard that name before? I heard that day before oh, he's written such films such excellent films as the princess bride Misery yeah, which Cassidy and the Sundance kid. How about marathon?

Yeah, how about heat? How about? I don't mean this is this is not his first or last appearance on the show because he also wrote Doreen catcher. Yeah, so It looks like he stopped writing good movies Somewhere in the early 90s.

Hey, no, you're sorry. Don't dream it's over. Yeah. I took the high road Fucking crowded out So okay, I'm starring Anthony Hopkins who Oh, do you mean sir Anthony Hopkins?

Yeah the night okay cuz you said Anthony Hopkins I was like surely he's not dragging a knight through the mud like that go on you know Hannibal Lecter His eating salad with the Queen I bet the late Anton Yeltshin rest in peace. Yeah, it's a bummer. Hope Davis Friend of the show David moon face more With a grossest hair yeah, oh boy Haircut Dave hey Dave I get it. You're over to makeup now.

You're playing a right You think that was in William Goldman script that is all you know his face is a perfect circle and his hair is very gross Like it was dipped in vegetable oil Alan Tudic Tudix the old double peen love that guy love him so much. He's a real Steve Steve's on Steve's on in my book Yeah, oh man very funny movie with Steve's on a second son so road movie call it that Yeah, do the road or do the trip yeah, but with oh Steve's on an Alan Tudic hey, too dick Hello Steve. He's a pretty normal guy Except for when he says the n-word in that Jackie Robinson movie. Oh, I don't know that Oh, that's all I've seen from that movie for some reason just keep her whining at yeah again I don't rewind it in this scenario.

I have my butler rewind it again Yeah And to the Steve pirate from that dodge ball. Oh, yeah more importantly. What's his name in uh in Roblone is K RS-1 yeah, it's K something K2 so K2 S. It's not far from KRS 1 I can't be the first person to have said that no where to have recorded a cover Of that sublime song KRS 1.

Uh-huh did you record a cover though? To put every place with K2 so yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all it's like a An alli yankovic parody make of some yeah when it make more sense to do a KRS 1 song Yeah, I'm poking holes in this thing. Yeah, it would make more sense. I strive to do better every day Do you know KRS 1 at all does he do whoop whoop?

That's the sound of the police. Yeah, I know that song That's it though. Yeah, you got it. You got the thing plugged in you could have done.

Yeah, I didn't want to it I would have sounded great. Oh, think of how good it would have sounded that could have it's too late I know it's too late baby. I'll just do it when like you're in the middle of saying something. Oh, please yeah, please wait for I'm gonna be like oh good sure Yeah, before the drop you monster.

I know tantric everything is tantric this episode. I'm never gonna come this episode a Long time listeners of the show know I try to come once every episode I hate to say folks. I just don't think it's gonna happen this week. Well, we gotta see time.

There's time There's plenty time we have not talked about this movie at all yet When after I said time but before I said there's time where you like where's he going with this time time time? What is he doctor who is he a hoo V. It's a tiny whiny? So anyway, this this movie well, well hearted at lantis What Dan what is this movie about it's about when your your friend is old and the government needs him so bad so so bad Hey, we're those guys from we'll get into it.

Yes the adjustment bureau Yeah, that's what I thought so okay the general so this is a book ended movie It opens with our second in a row. Yeah, yeah, it is it opens with with King alum moonface Morse He's he gets invited to a funeral He gets a fun quirky invitation in the form of an old baseball club. He gets a strip of Graham in the mail It's important to be the bearer of bad news Yes, Jesus and these days, but I'm not sorry about that. She's new They have to write their own So he goes to funeral for a childhood friend of his in his name Chris chambers It should be Chris.

I was mad when I saw that was it John Sullivan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, William Rothhor a roll for our So he goes he was a he was a cheap imitation of a Christian. Yeah, he was a dime store hood of a chamber But he was in Jack Frost and he wasn't kingpin. Oh, we talked about Jack Frost before yeah He was driving to snow storm when his wipers just up working Yeah, go back and I turn into a snowman because the Sun played the harmonica and then he melted to death Yeah, he died twice for a son.

Yeah, so it's some good thing What else do I have to do for these kids? Oh dad? I feel I cherish the time we had well while you were on earth My wonder threat is that I didn't get to see you melt? Watch your daddy melt just pissing on this snow There has to be a yellow snow joke in there somewhere right almost certainly oh Well, it's not a joke so much as the whole movie is scored by Frank Zappa.

Oh, yeah, there's your yellow snow joke So yeah, David Morris gets invited to a wedding I mean a funeral funeral for his childhood friend who died A funeral is when two dead people get married at war was he a soldier was he in Desert Storm? I don't know it seemed I thought it was some sort of a military funeral. It was a coup. He became the president of Venezuela Yeah, his own men turned on him But I'll never forget that summer in Maine.

Oh, yeah, I don't remember how he dies But he dies dies whatever bequeathed Steven Morris an old baseball glove which didn't factor into things quite as much as I expected it to Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm gonna sit right off the bat. I didn't like this movie at all. I I thought this was I don't know the cast I loved her and white knuckling the mic stayed I hated it so much the whole turn real Stacey Jack's over there I was waiting the whole time for the movie to start.

Yeah, I got that yeah So he's while he's at this funeral. He's talking to the father of the dead and dead man Yeah, and he's like well, I'm really father with the bride and he's like I'm really hoping to see my other friend Carol Gerber. Yeah, she coming. Oh buddy.

Oh, man. Oh, a double bad news for you today. Oh, oh I'm just gonna have to shittle over your childhood It is guy in this movie is like a human version of the Ghostbusters remake Did you hear that? This isn't a direct connection, but it feels natural.

Do you hear that Alex Jones? Yes, his custody hearing said that he couldn't recall basic facts about his kids because he quote had a big bullet show I did hear that it is It's it's the ball of chili excuse. Yeah, I've heard it a million times Anyone who's seen the people verse OJ Simpson is very familiar with the bullet chili defense, right? I had a big bowl of chili.

It was laced with acid That's insanity. That's a hey that right there. That's a two alarm chili More or less alarms. No LSD the thing with him got and whole like performance artists.

He's just playing a part kind of thing It's funny obviously because he's such like he's he's the guy that everybody's like we'll go shoot up a pizzeria for But also, I don't know I feel like everybody else is like oh Yeah Yeah, we're like I know nobody cares nobody's going to care in another two weeks He's gonna be doing the same shit he always does right like someone who gets like weird Mike Sernovich guys foaming at the mouth Like no one's gonna no one no one could care the damage is done right like all of those guys are like well He just has to lie in court to get his kids I get that you know what the thing is though like I can really see this defense ball falling apart When halfway through the trial is like your honor. This is a character he plays. That's not true A little bit So this movie what about it so he finds out that now like it's two childhood friends are dead Yeah, and then he's just like I feel like nothing really leads into him being like I'll never forget that summer in me No, there's nothing there's no like The baseball in stand by me There's there's the rigid rifles in the beginning is reading the newspaper C's Chris Chambers step to death And you get the voiceover of him saying that like I was 13 years old the first time I saw it dead body And then they go into a whole fucking source is just like he this guy was dead, but he wasn't always yeah There's no like there's no reason there's no reason and like I don't know That's sort of the problem for me with this whole movie is there's like nothing hooking me into any of these characters Yeah, you also don't really understand why like by the end of it You don't understand why Lila Leland Tony Elgin is best friends with Anthony Hopkins like right I did not feel the weight of their Relationship at all. Yeah, so so okay, so we're transported back in time and it seems like the late 50s early six Right the twist is just taking the nation by storm.

Yeah president John F. Kennedy is just taking and taking a big shit That's right. You know your history Okay Real quick with John F. Kennedy have you heard the theory that?

His secret service one of the secret service guard accident was shot. I have heard that it was I think it was on a The last episode of the crack podcast they were talking about that But the that Lee Harvey Oswald was responsible for two of the shots and one of them had severed his spine Yeah, so he would have been in very bad shape Yeah, since he was like already in a wheelchair That's the time and the secret service agent more or less put him out his misery. Oh my god I have not heard that but like tripped and his gun went off whoopsie daisy, but sorry boss Yeah Jack the servants agent moose get over here Yeah, I think I have heard that and I choose to believe it like nothing is more American to me than accidentally shooting president Yeah, and like whoopsie daisy Doing violent things that have huge repercussions mostly by accident. Yeah, it is the American way and then like covering it Oh boy, yeah, so Here we are in the early 60s.

The twist is taking a nation by storm president John F. Kennedy has just taken a big shit Mm-hmm. Uh, people are still feeling the effects of When did rebel without a cause come out? Oh?

1959 62 keep going It was a 62. Okay, so rebel without a cause people are feeling the the the the the the pre tremors Elvis Presley is shaking his ass on TV Well, but you can't see it because it's from the waist up That's right because those mop top beetles aren't here yet a lot of stuff hasn't happened Yeah, 9-eleven hasn't happened yet. Sorry folks. If you want 9-eleven, you're gonna have to wait I'm gonna have to wait in line just like the rest of us.

Oh my god anyway. Yeah, so Did you know okay real quick? Yeah, you know the music artist Elvis Perkins? No, he does you would know him if you heard him I think I but he's yeah, yeah, who was he doing?

He's a what is he from? He's from now to his guys He's from now times, but he sort of sounds like he's not from now times, but he's sort of yeah anyway He's like he's a singer-songwriter type. Yeah, pretty good I didn't know this until recently he is a friend of the show Melissa Jobin told me that he is Anthony Perkins son. Oh that creep That's psycho.

Yeah. Well, so yeah, Anthony Perkins, you know, you have a gay dad who died died of AIDS during like the height of AIDS That's not why I called him a creep by the way because he died. Yeah, no no because he played the psycho He played Norman's psycho. Yeah, he played the biggest creep of all time in a movie But and on top like that enough right there.

You know like write a million songs Just that's a very charged loaded. Yeah, weirdly public life to have yes on top of that His mom died on one of the planes in 9-11. Can you believe that? What a fucking crazy life that guy has had shit That's all I have to say about that's funny about this.

That's a man's life. That's a man. That's rough. Yeah, that is I know I just like I I bring this up whenever I can cuz like I can't believe that that's all one person Yeah, that's fucking weird.

Yeah, man. Well, is that what you hear about somebody's like? So he's famous and their parents are just like dying in unusual ways. Yeah, but like 9-11.

Yeah, come on. Yeah, she should have done something Just kidding. I'm Mark Wellbier. She's not yeah.

If you were Mark Wellbier. Hey guy put down that box cutter. Hey So the same thing after Sally crash landed I'll fucking blind you I've done it before put my thumb in your eyes Yeah, my one thumb in your two eyes. But yeah, no, he said the same thing in one eye and out the other oh I got long thumbs the all this wallbergs have long thumbs.

That's why our boy band that the wallbergs was such a hit What were they called the the wallbergs? Yeah, what band was he in Mark wallberg was in the funky bun wasn't there another any wallberg was in New kids on the block really? I thought they were in a thing together now. They own a burger Don't say wallbergers.

I mean like I don't know about I heard that they're gonna open a wallbergers where the circus driving is on 35 I'll cry I'll cry I won't leave the state I won't move away By the way Listen as I'm moving away. Yeah by by it still sounds like a bit But it's not a bit I'm actually moving you're moving away. Mm-hmm. What does this mean for the future of the show?

What does it mean nothing? We're gonna keep doing it. We're just gonna keep doing it. I'm gonna have to Skype them in mm-hmm And yeah, I'm sure we're gonna have all kinds of technical difficulties with it, but I can relax This is a natural transition, so I'm not too embarrassed to say it But today I made my Facebook status the following I am leaving New Jersey in search of better internet content and then Jack friend of the show Jack's diggers mom just commented and said you won't find it Awesome, man.

Yes, that's actually that makes sense You ain't gonna find it out there You know like a sailor going out to see in search of new land. Yeah, my white whale is nothing out there But the edge of the world Maybe a maybe a big dragon You will be a big sea dragon like a big sea dragon. It's got feathers for some reason. Yeah That's a dog head.

Yeah, so it's a luck dragon. I was watching an internet video about This is why people to hear me summarize Internet videos it was a video about different voice actors and one of them was the guy who voices Mario the Italian plumber from the video games Mario I know who Mario is I just thought I'd be Mario Mario is his name You thought you could have thought I meant Mario Lopez who does most of his own voice work But in fact I meant Mario the small Italian plumber from the video games. Okay, I may know from such video games as Mario Kart Super Mario Super Mario Kart Mario party different pronunciation Mario tennis Mario paint so that guy he's a real he's a real whoever did the voice of Mickey Mouse where he it's just his voice but with a dumb Italian accent really well Yeah, I mean he's just going eat some me it's a me and that let's ago But they also had the guy who voiced Falcor who also voiced like Skeletor and stuff Oh, and all they did like a super cut of different voices he did and with the exception of Falcor. It's just him going and Like this all the time and he admitted he was like I do one voice I do I do one thing I do well though.

He was drunk. You know, even a crappy apartment What for is that because I went on too long about the internet no Sick balls. I just haven't tested them. Well, that's I love that's such a loving tribute to my sick balls Well, so this movie.

Yeah, okay, so we're transported back in time. It's the early 60s It's the early 60s the band on the Elgin it lives with his mom. Oh, how embarrassing now He's a little boy. Oh and she she works the father's out of the picture.

He's dead. That's why he's out Yeah, but was that I thought they split up before that maybe not I don't know no because she's like Your father didn't leave us with much. Oh, okay. Yeah, so he's dead.

He's dead guy dead in the ground Yeah, and she works for what we find out is a very bad man. Yes She works for like a real estate company. Yeah, so But she's always working and not around very much so Anton Yeltsin is kind of left to his own devices He's a real latch key kid. Yeah, and it they rent the downstairs in a house and They're downstairs.

They rent the upstairs. Oh, is this our house? Yeah, don't is it? I thought of somebody else's house that they were just renting from I thought it was their house.

Well unclear All right, well, she's like your father didn't leave as much except for the giant house That we're renting out to Anthony Hopkins. They're getting getting income that way Why are they there so much if if they're just renting it to him is my question to you? What do you think if it's a separate house that Anthony Hopkins is living in no, it's the same house I thought it was just divided up into like a mother-daughter kind of thing maybe I'm saying the upstairs bit and We're saying the same thing are we yeah, all right We're saying that they live in a big house together. Yeah, and they rent the top to him I just thought that somebody else owned the house and they were also renting oh No, I don't think so I think that was like the whole thing was like we need extra money, so we're renting the upstairs.

All right. Yeah, that's fine It doesn't it's fine So Anton yelching Wow our first fight He he meets Anthony Hopkins Anthony Hopkins is hanging out on the front porch old Ted Bratigan Yeah, good American name Ted brought this fucking this Englishman. Yeah, he can't like he cannot be an English man I don't mind no, it's fine his delivery is so tied into his accent But he's talking about how into football he is American in 1950 something yeah, that seems weird to me talking about all what's that guy's name Jim Jim Brown Jim Brown No, who's that Jim Brown is uh The guy he was he's in a bunch of movies but a bunch of black exploitation movies. He's like In the 70s and shit No, I'm thinking of um He's a Native American who was played by a white guy in an old biopic about him.

Maybe his name's not Jim I have Jim in my head. I don't know. I'm not just talking about I'll figure it out. All right So it's Anton yelchins 11th birthday his mom gets on the free library card Jim Thorpe going and Oh an adult library card.

Yeah to the porn store straight to the polling store How many kids have one of these she says Anthony Hopkins is basically telling him how actually having an adult library card is could be the best gift because you could Read a bunch of fucking books the greatest gift of all yeah If he doesn't grab you in the first hundred pages about it down find another one well I did I pulled that clip because I That seems like something that like Stephen King. Yeah put in there. Yeah in like I have my we didn't read the books Obviously, and we're not gonna talk about this is probably we shouldn't even be talking about Stephen King He's given right to an hour to talk to you and if you can't wish him the best find someone else Yeah, here's the thing I do really like Ted Bratigan. You like the character I do But like I said, I don't see it didn't feel like he endeared himself to this kid very much well right I think The I think this movie is about the wrong person really the movies about it follows Anton yelching around and gets into like his You know from his everything is from his point of view, but I don't think there's anything like about him Yeah, there's nothing I don't know how changed he is he is is Anthony Hopkins That's that was so weird at the end of this movie when he said he specifies He's like I never saw the future again Like I can never read people's minds again just that one day just one house like who cares totally in a lot of ways Like the stakes like I don't know there's the I mean Anthony Hopkins says he's like you're gonna kiss Carol And it's gonna be the kiss by which all others are measured right it's going into a little too much with a little Point but also like yo you took that moment away from the movie right like yeah Yeah, I don't know you either if you do that you can't have it happen in the movie.

Yes or just don't do it and right? Yeah Yeah, so I don't they're in their initial conversation. They're talking about that that I Had to pull this fucking clip. These are the only two clips I pulled the first.

Oh, I hate I know what you pull yeah, and he's talking Here is Did these many years brilliant but foolish about money and Give them to flatulence Yeah kids always think farts are funny first of all very patronizing very second of all what a weird way to phrase that Yeah, they always think farts are funny. I think farts are funny. Yeah, everybody thinks farts are funny really funny. They are I don't know why Anyway, so also also terrible fart noise he puts his hand on yeah The crook of his hand between his thumb and index finger and blows it to their almost like there is a balloon Yeah Almost like the way you like where you blow if you were holding a harmonica.

Yeah of all the things you can do no You gotta do heels your hand up to your mouth Yeah, or I you want to see something need I figured out yeah, you can do it between your fingers See guys But that that already is way better than what Hopkins is doing hey if you can please donate to the Patreon Every episode of the show is a fuck you to the people who like us No, well, we love you. Yeah, Anthony harp harp is That their Anthony harpkins needs to war show. Yeah, any harpkins. Yeah, the harkins So he that would be a good that's what I'm going to start calling cherub babies who play the harp Will Anthony harpkins they so it's the way see that ever going Anthony Hopkins asks The young man if you'll read him the paper every day.

Yes, I guess he says like his eyes are going on You can't read guys past experience guys. You're the only one here folks Past experience tells me you're in the paper no man. He's well. He's gonna be a Nazi.

That's true What's interesting here is that for a while? You're not sure if maybe he's actually just a commie. Mm-hmm. Ruski.

Yeah, he might be a commie It's unclear. It's a commie with powers. There's um, so they they start like kind of hanging out He was reading the paper in the morning and then like Anthony Hopkins is like, you know Just like laying some knowledge on him here and there and talking about, you know What is life is gonna be and yeah, he's we come to find out that he can does he see the future or can he read mine? It seems like a bit of both right.

It's unclear. Yeah, he seems we see him see the future But when Anton Yelchin takes on his powers, yeah, he can just read out in two dicks mind right so You know, we're sort of getting that and then his mom Anton Yelchin's mom here. Hope Davis is like uneasy about their relationship She's like kind of weirded out that this old man wants to hang out with this young boy But you're standable, but she allows it. She's like alright.

I'm just keeping an eye on this and Yeah, and then he gives him that that speech about kissing Carol right and then they that night that night they go to the fair and They're playing games even candy and they come upon Alan to take the booth Oh, we forgot to mention that Anthony Hopkins is prone to falling into trances And that's that's when when little Anton Yelchin touches him That's because he thinks that he's like stroking out or something because he's just kind of like staring off into the middle distance and muttering about who knows what nonsense and You know, he tries to shake him out of whatever fit He's having trying to shake him out of a trance and he says something like it's better if people don't touch me Yeah, he also at this point has mentioned the low men, right? He did say yeah, he says He talks about the low men and not what does he say? They're not short. They're just men of It's not ill repute but something something along their low down.

Yeah, they're dirtbags In nice suits in nice suits. Yeah, so he goes out to this fair with his friends and someone's mom is there Yeah, she seems nice. Yeah, it's Carol's mom It's Carol's mom and they so they come upon Alan to Dix booth where he's doing that on was three card Monty It is in fact, I'm to it is credited as Monty man. Yeah, so he's playing he's doing a three card Monty And everybody's gonna pick up Queen and nobody could do it and and Anton Yelchin can do it every time because he's reading minds Baby, yeah, this scene was kind of silly to me because because I don't do it It's like all right.

I learned this one from this guy and since I had it He's just doing the same thing doing the same thing and slowly yeah, he's just like yeah Yeah, I'll put that one here Oh, and I'll switch these two around and put that one back old switcharoo and let's see I think the Queen is here So same that shuffle every time yes same like three card Monty shuffle that you always say There's no like slight of hand or anything like that. He's not cheating which he should be he should be that's where I thought He was going was he was gonna be like your chicken your pocket or something like that. Yeah up your sleeve We should have written this I know we should have helped out William Goldman. Hey, hey Bell Goldman Get it together.

All right your shit. You lost your touch. Yeah, and we'll talk more about that when we get to dream catch. Oh, baby so I'm too big is not happy with Anton Yelchin and he wins his money back and all the money back for his friends that lost it And then he tells me to take a hike Oh, and there's and this is a hard thing for Anton Yelchin to do because his deceased father according to his mother was He had a serious gambling problem.

He never what was the thing he never met a blind straight He didn't like something like that something like that and it's explained to the 12 year old who said that by another 12 year old Then a blind straight is for suckers. Yeah, did you know that? I don't know the blind straight is I still don't know They explained it in the movie. Oh, he says it's someone with them middle car.

I don't who could care It's not What are you looking for? Okay, we'll press on here. Thank you, Jud So then the kids they go in the Ferris wheel and Anton Yelchin is on there with Carol and then they share a kiss a little smooch A little smooch. She's like I believe we have an audio clip of that That's it then they get off the the old Ferris wheel right?

Yeah, he kisses her and she's like would you do that? I mean and then he sort of like turns away like whoa boy puts his like was right right down the camera and says what a pisser Yeah, and she's like you do it again though, and he's like done. You're like oh baby baby One baby And then so another main thing here is that Since it's his birthday. He really wanted a bike this one bike.

That's in the fucking window of this store and There's that scene that that takes place there So Anton Yelchin is outside the store looking in and there's like a little boy with his dad and the boys like nobody You can't hear anything that's going on in the store But they're just miming all this stuff like dad I really want this bike Anton Yelchin's bike the one he really wants and And you know this one this is the one and so Carol being like I don't know She got tricks up her sleeve she goes in there and she's like oh this bike not cool But this bike over here this bike is very cool. Whoever the boy is that wrote this bike I would like him very much and he's like dude. I really look this boy can study and dad's like dude. She's fucking playing Yeah Bro bro, you're gonna fucking play these women man.

They just play games So on the way back from the bike store. They're they're both like we like each other so much Thank you so much Carol and then we run into these fucking bullies. Oh Oh I got the sleepies. I'm really sorry I have the sleepies and the burpees and I ain't talking about the exercise regimen I can't stop sleeping and burping into the microphone These bullies No, but the one well yeah, I mean they're like clearly rich kids They're like private school kids.

Yeah, they're in uniform And the one despite not being on the baseball team always has a baseball bat on him Yeah, he carries it like he's got a like a sheath yeah That he's got a quiver. Yeah, he keeps a baseball bat in yeah, and he always he's calling Anton Yelchin I think calls me to see a bunch of times it's like an old-timey way to call him gay yeah cuz no one was gay yet Yeah, yeah, no gays. Yeah, that wouldn't they didn't start making them until they started poisoning the water. Am I right Dan?

Well, it's all that fluoride. That's right. Yeah, good for the teeth bad for the gums What's that mean? So so they were like about to oh the fucking bully does like a creepy thing where he grabs Oh, yeah, it's like did your tits come in yet?

You know what I better just grab and check it make sure no It's real gross. It's real gross. They don't show it yo Okay, so later when they're cutting back and forth between the mom in the hotel room and the little girl Why we jumping that far ahead because nothing matters this movie's not told in carnal We're anyway, yeah, it's book ended well I want to talk about this bully talking Anthony Hopkins real quick real quick. I want to say okay, yeah do it What is it it can wait?

What so these kids are gonna rise by these bullies and then Anthony Hopkins interferes yeah He interjects himself and he calls like a leader over and he's like you like calling little boy sissies But I know why you like that little I don't know what your little bitch your little bitch your little your little little little Donny Benjamin bitch Donny bitch Hey, it's not done. Don Benjamin was the boss. Yeah, how are you doing? How are you doing?

But he's basically like I know you're gay. What are you a little dole in style bitch? And he's like we got to go guys and they're like what did you say he says? I know you're gay I totally miss that he doesn't say come out and be like I know you're gay, but he's he's like I know why you're doing this wow yeah, you wanna join here I mean if you have it ready, but if you have to look for it for even one second.

I'm not interested I am already okay. Let me get a microphone on it. Hey Plug it in I already made the noise how you did the noise it would be a waste not to It's all vamp Big yawn ain't seen nothing yet But baby you just It's like I know you dark secret Whoa, I'm sorry Carol. Yeah, so that's the scene interesting Yeah, sure how I feel about that that he's threatening to out him yeah, and Mostly just like I don't know he has this incredible gift of understanding people and Harry Doolen's a shit Yeah, we know this we do couldn't you have just pulled him aside been like hey man.

I know what's up I just wanted to say I think that's I think that's great. I think it's great. I think it's great. I think it's great I think it's so great that you got your own thing going You also have to understand that this is the 60s and even though you know Anthony Hopkins is not it's not outing him He might not be okay with it either and also you have to remember that this movie was from 2001 also And again before gay people before people we haven't said when but it was definitely after 9-11 In a lot of ways being gay was a reaction.

Oh my god not true. Yeah gay people are from the 70s everyone knows that so then So then the mom is she's invited on this business trip because she works for this real estate agent And she like she feels like she can do the job anything she put her mind Yeah, yeah, so it's his big convention So it's like it's a big deal for her to like get ahead in the company and this is part of it This is part of the job. It's really it's a way for her to Just better herself sure in her mind now The way you're telling this is Better at misdirection than the movie is yes, although I don't think the movie's even trying to misdirect really I know well, I think she's like her point of view though. Oh, well.

Yeah, I she doesn't she's not doing anything She doesn't she certainly doesn't realize she's in any kind of danger. Yeah, the guy her boss is like this sleazy guy big business fat So yeah, he's not like he doesn't say anything particularly creepy or anything He's just like well they establish him as a hard misogynist before they even hit the road Do that wait? Yeah, well, I mean not as a hard Anyway, I'll see you later and No, what happens it's no good So Anthony Hopkins he takes Anton Yelchin out of the town they go see a movie and then he's like he takes him to this bar Kids love bars and be farts now Dan when you were a little boy ever go to a bar. No, never I don't think so.

I've been to know I know I had a good Mom. Yeah, all right. Well, let's know you know, you know my mom's a stick in the mud My grandmother actually worked she was a bartender for a bit and Like a cliffside we yeah, like I remember going to the bar like a couple times You know like those old bars where it's no windows very dark inside, but also red. Yeah, what was the name of the bar?

No idea Okay, all the kids allowed Friendly bar. Yeah, we could have plugged it. Yeah, no, I'm gonna give him that bar in the side park Which is surely not open anymore a nice plug. Yeah So they go to this bar and Anton Yelchin just starts like the the woman working behind the bar She she starts talking to him like hey, you look familiar.

What's your deal? And he's like oh my name is whatever the fuck his name is little Anton Yelchin little Yelchin Bobby Garfield And Bobby off you up and then she's like oh any relation to Bobby Garfield? Yeah And he's like that's my dad and she's like I thought you look familiar And then she like shows him a picture and tells him like a few stories about the guy and all the stories are like really nice Yeah, she's like I was he was a real cut up and he always left with more than he came in yeah always one money Never and if anybody needed money he always helped him out like he was just like an all-around good guy Yeah, and in this when they were explaining when he she's going over that and stuff I wasn't sure if it was real or if like Anthony Hopkins had set that up, you know like like he planted memories No, no like if it was an organic meeting no I thought maybe Anthony Hopkins had like been to this bar before and just told this woman like I'm gonna bring this kid in Just tell him some nice shit about his dad. It's hard to say yeah hard to say cuz he does bet he does make that bet right Right Hopkins makes a few of that it's a classic Hopkins bet right he bet Yeah, he bets a bunch of money on a fight with like ten to one odds fucking wins bro because he got the future He's got that big brain.

He's he can shine check out the big brain on and Hop check out that big brain on hop He was smart Yes, and can so Yeah, so yeah, I don't know that's a tough call. It seems like I mean Ted Brodigan was many things But a lie was not one of them right so maybe it was all real isn't it great that accent doesn't really come up at all in this movie No, it doesn't it's a it's horrible That's just horrible So when they're leaving the bar they actually they see a car like passing them and it has the low men in hats Whatever fuck they're called. Yeah And then this is This is this is no good his mom calls him from the hotel where they're saying and She's on the phone, you know, she has everything going all the stuff, right and the boss who looks like he's all like kind of dishevel a strong kinship He comes over and starts like groping under while she's on the phone Yeah, and this was like this was hard to watch cuz she's like She knows what's about to happen and she's on the phone with her kid and she like gets off the phone real quick Cuz like she doesn't want him to hear it. Yeah, yeah Man that was fucking that was rough.

Yeah, gotta go grown up stuff. Yeah, it's like well tough It's a real joke. Yeah, so Yeah, so that happens and Anton Yelchin's he's like he sees some signs around town that are like code for showing me where Anthony Hopkins is Have you seen Brad again? He's a he's a mongrel that we love him.

Yeah. Yeah And while that what he's like he sees this he knows like you know that the heat is coming down on yeah It's also I don't think we did a great job of establishing that Anthony Hopkins is like being pursued by these low men and like they kind of get into How mate how they're like the government? They're like the men in black sort of there. Yeah, well, they it's Jay and it's Kay Yeah, well Smith is in this movie and he says I make this look good They kind I don't think they do a great job establishing it in the movie with a Really like the only time they they get like any sort of detail into it.

He's talking about how You know, yeah, I can I can I have like certain powers or whatever and there are people in high places that might want to exploit that Are they from that place the company the company? Oh an early iteration of the company? Yeah, like oh baby I like that like what was shield before it was shield back in the agent Carter days. I was called shield I'm not sure like that but they're bad, but yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, like because by the time like fire starter comes around right they're like they're well established Mm-hmm.

So they must be in business for quite some time. Yeah, it's a good. This is what this is when like weird deep Government ops really the black ops CIA. Yeah, this is where it really starts kicking in a high gear All right in the public conscious see if they had thought well man if they had just connected those dots if they had called it the shop Mm-hmm, and I would have loved this That's really all I needed and I wonder if that's well Technically I can't wonder if that's in the book, but it's one might one might wonder.

Yeah. Yeah what I wouldn't give to talk about the book right now So yeah, so then at the same time that the mom is being assaulted. They're cutting between that and the bully Herr Dolan. Yeah sneaking up on little Carol Gerber.

Yep little Gerber baby. Oh, that's right. That's what you thought. I just got that I don't think I realized her last name was Gerber.

I thought he was just saying that you're a baby because he was like You know what else is a baby? Gerber baby. Yeah, he's like sneaking up on her while she's like reading it on her You know wooded Glen their babbling brook. He's got his trusty baseball bat on him a phallic symbol now that I think about it Oh, wow, I guess this is a good movie.

Nope. It's still not no. No. No, I think it is so he sneaks up on her and he like winds up and Like did he just like crack her in the head?

Yeah, I didn't know what was happening I thought he assaulted her since that's what was happening to the mom Oh, you thought she was being like I thought she was gonna be like beaten and assaulted. Okay, like That's they're not gonna show two right kids and you're not you'll imply it, but yeah Yeah, I just thought that's what was going on and I was so relieved when all he did was dislocate her shoulder. Yeah, thank you so So anti-elching finds her in the woods and like drags her back like puts her on his back Yeah, Harry's or the whole way back to the house poor brought again Somehow he knows that that's happening and also that the mom was assaulted. Yeah, that's fuck man Yeah, and then there's that there's a one shot of the mom carrying all of her bags from like up Jesus Christ It's got like a black eye.

Oh god and like she's got this like very distant look on her face and you know She's just assaulted and but like she got a stew fucking like go home and like Oh my god With a kid being a brat about her being like don't hang out with my son right so right so they rad put So I feel like she really gets a raw deal throughout this entire movie I'm not kind of feel the same way she so the little girl she dislocated the shoulder right and Anthony Hopkins is like I have to You know pop it back in But I have to like look at it. Yeah, so she's wearing like a button down shirt and then like an undershirt Camus all that's called. I thought it was just like a Whatever but so he unbuttons the shirt and like sees the shoulder and pops it back in and like Kind of just at that moment the mom walks in and she's just been assaulted She sees Anthony Hopkins with like two kids one of them is half dressed and she's like what the fuck like do leave Yeah I'm gonna call the police and and both the kids are vouching for and they're like no no Just got my shoulder was popped out and whatever and she seems to buy it But she's also like you got you're not staying yeah, you're fucking out of here and She actually calls the low men on on Hopkins right because they're they Wow what happened what happened? I don't know I just ran on steam They are all the one after this day.

I know I know they're offering a reward is what I was gonna say right there I don't have a job anymore. Yeah, I could really use the money right so she takes the money and But they don't they well, they're not actually giving her money. No, they will know that's his bet money Oh, is that what it is? Okay, it's his gambling money.

Yeah, uh, so that okay, so then he gives she gets the gambling money whatever Anthony Hopkins gets picked up by these low men and they just gets driven off Yeah, like he's you know just sort of waves goodbye to Anton Yelchin as he's like I I'll never forget it Yeah time of my life. Yeah, I'm Bobby Bobby traded for the world. Can you fly Bobby? Yeah, so he takes a little Anton Yelchin takes the money.

No goes home He's like well, I hope your happy mom my friend is gone Yeah, they took him and you and he says like in light of everything that's transpired with her I didn't appreciate him yelling at his mother. I know he didn't know yeah but there was no like sense from the like the Narratorial perspective that like there was no dramatic irony. I guess right. Yeah, you didn't feel it.

Yeah So he's just like there's nothing I don't know there's you don't you don't see that play out really all she does is like Apologize to her so much like what else could she do I guess but also and then they just they move away Yeah, that's it and he just you know, she he says like you only ever think about yourself right which is uh, yeah Which is a shitty thing in that moment especially So he so Anton Yelchin says goodbye to Carol and his friend and they drive off and then the last scene is what David More's he's like he's at the house. It's all run down now, and he sees this like young girl Killed me. She looks a lot like Carol Gerber. Yeah.

Well, she she turns out to be the daughter of Carol Gerber, right? But fuck this casting are they are they like sisters or something same girl? No, yeah, just with goth makeup on it Isn't that the same girl it for sure is no way See Miss Gerber cuz that that girl is like a little like a little Gerber baby And this this girl's like a teen at least it's the same person. I'm telling you man.

Hold on. I promise you I See Miss the fuck telling you look at the credits. I'm looking at the credits There's no men extra is young man. Is she's not credit.

She's not credited which leads me to believe it's the same person What but they should have the slash? How is but she's so much bigger. She's not she's wearing a big coat. This doesn't make any sense at all But how could they be the same person all right?

Well, it's only one's heart and it's I'll never watch you again Regardless regardless being in which you see the commercials for Fargo season three. Yeah, you and McGregor. I'm double-duty. Love it I love first off you McGregor love him national treasure and he's doing he's the successful brother and the fuck up brother Yeah, deal me in and what's certain Mary Elizabeth when I'm dead.

Yeah from a Scop program. Yep And Ramona flowers have you seen a ten clover field lane? I saw some of it But then I got so high that I had to go to bed So I have to revisit it, but I liked what I saw very good Yeah So then the movies over then the movies over he just sort of like talks to this young girl who apparently is the same girl But whatever all right is like say was your mother Carol Gerber? She goes my mom's dead And he says all right hot topic pump the breaks asked you a yes or no question Yeah, and then she's like and yeah, he says something like I used to know your mother a long long time ago She says you're the boy from the stories.

Yeah, the boy from the Ferris wheel That's right. That's what she says and she she's like my mom used to talk about you all the time She was in a very unhappy marriage. Yes, but that's it basically is like he gives her a picture of her mom And that's it that's it that's it. That's it.

That's it. It comes and goes Much like you're right life itself. Yeah, I know I've always known. I've always thought how do they do it?

But her hair is blind no because they don't like it doesn't seem like they do anything else in this movie like a special effects Wise or anything they don't biggest effect is when Alan Tudeck is playing the card money really slow Yeah, they had to pay all that extra money to slow the film down. Yeah, I don't know okay Well, you know what I not to step on how did this get me? It's terrible their toes too much even though they do it to us it seems like every week. Yeah, yeah You're croaching all my territory man look no hard feelings it's dt GM But hd tgm.

I'm just saying look if you're gonna talk about Stephen King the least you could do is reach out and put Rob on the show I think they're really good for him. I would love it But how much do you think this movie cost to make oh man see it's got Hopkins Hopkins was like a big deal yeah the biggest deal But nothing there's no like it's very bare bones except for maybe like I could see them putting money towards like building That's like cityscape where they go and see the movie and the bar and all that shit Yeah, I can see that whole thing being like a bad kind of thing. So I'm gonna say 20 million okay, see I thought like way less than that okay Just again because it's just like a straight drama with no special effects now I was like you could make I feel like you could make this movie for like 50 10 $15 million Yeah, you could do it you totally do this for time is a real get-out situation. Yeah how much?

30 okay, so hold on it grossed it grossed 30 million nine hundred thousand okay Total yeah, and that was 80,000 short of the budget. Yeah, so it was like 31 million dollar 31 million dollars to make too much I know so much I know all that money very little yield That's very bad. Mm-hmm, but the movies over right the movies over. We're done.

Okay. No segments this week segment I said no, I don't know that hurts my parts. Well, I don't know it's just like rapes. Well.

Yeah, it's always gotta be the rape scene I know we have like a standing thing where there's a sexual assault it we have to pick the second worst thing Yes, because that's the first but god honestly like everything else is so inoffensive in this movie that like I don't I feel like my hands are Kind of tight it maybe I don't know I love I did love hearing okay. Here's what I didn't like okay apart from that Okay, it was it was it felt very first of all that seemed very protracted because it was intercut with other stuff Yep, and it was The audio component of it was very upsetting yeah anyway, so that that no was standing The payoff for the football story that Anthony Hopkins tells oh where's like you dad now we're at the same game Yeah, and it's like this old man. I forget his name I was like Bronco von Bjerren. Yep Bronco von Bjerren.

He was 98 years old running back Chicago the bears It's like they put him in no one thought he was gonna do anything for the team But he got a few yards then they gave the ball to him on the next play you got a few more than seven and twelve Just drove all the way down the field now bears won the game the payoff for that sucked There's no yeah, there is because he's telling himself like the kid a little Anton Yelchin Here's that story in his head as he's carrying Carol home stupid to be like I can't do it But I gotta just like just another just like yards just like cold to over work Yep Cult Bixby I decided his name. I mean I didn't like this movie at all no it wasn't good and my My least favorite part is definitely it's it's the rape and the aftermath of the rape It's there's no point to it. Yeah. Yeah, it's so offensive Like to watch this and this like this the movie besides that scene is it's completely innocuous like there's nothing To it really there's no I don't think it has any much of a lasting effect.

Yeah, but like that scene It's it's like it's like they show too much. It's like especially kind of I don't know gross to watch And then you see the aftermath of it, but there's no point to it There's nothing like there's no reason. I mean like to say that there's no payoff to it is like it sounds shitty But there's nothing no reason for it is like story-wise in the movie There's nothing to be gained from that at all. I think I think the better version So what this movie is going for what I got by like look overlooking all of its flaws Is that it's a coming of age story in the style of like like through the lens of the loss of innocence?

Yeah, that is there's no Building up of like character It's just like a degradation of like the romance of being young for sure so like I Think in a better version of this movie that doesn't feel so out of place Right so like well because everything else is like hinting at it But that just is so like loud in comparison everything else right and so imagine they don't show that that scene in the hotel at all And we just see her walking from the train you just see that shot of her With all her bags like the next day or whatever and she's like to shoveled and she's got that distant looking rise And you know like from meeting that guy earlier and seeing what she looks like you know what happens right you know and I don't know they could have done something they didn't have to show it if you like and they could have done something Where I don't know it for lack of a word it mattered. Yeah, no I do agree like afterwards like she's you know obviously very distraught and Antoni Elishan is like a shit to her but like as like a little boy would be a shit to his mom and There's nothing well, I think we know what happened what happened and we're like oh Antoni Elton don't do that right now But right you don't see anything from the mom's perspective really I just really don't like it It doesn't work and it's so like it's not like we haven't seen this in movies before But even in movies where it's treated like very callously and as a plot device right you still don't get the feeling necessarily that It's like it feels out of place even yeah in the way that this does yeah, but yeah Yeah, very much on a fan that parts were hurt parts were hurt Yeah Toodic I'll give it to you. Yes. Oh, he's so happy to see him always yeah, great.

That's it moving on great in the book I'm working on now. There's a spooky monster. Let's talk about our King tropes kids in the 60s bullies Adults returning back to their hometown touching people and getting their powers man boy love Chris chambers the exact costume of Chris chambers. Yep.

That's it. That's all I got yeah That's good. That's a good little list of stuff. Yeah, I feel pretty good which brings us to our final segment IMDB answer Oh wait, you know what I did not see one goddamn sign in this movie.

Oh, I did it brings us to our final segment I am DB they just cheated us this isn't fair I MDB where we compare our opinion of the movie against the average user score on IMDB calm 31,326 souls Wait in I'm just waiting for the day that that gets old for me They voted on this movie awarded it's a lot it is a lot I had not heard of this movie except for the show so it's weird to me that 31,000 people had Given a shit enough to rank this yeah 31,000 people which is still 50,000 people fewer than dollars this movie came in Gross under the budget right 31,000 people 326 more people give their opinion of the movie and awarded it an average user score of 6.9 out of 10 stars now I personally refuse to change that because I think it's a funny sexual number If you take the period away, yep, it's a perfect 69. Yeah, it is. It's not the first time I said that my man any who's old And he who's no if I'm being real like a four flip four to a five somewhere there. Oh, yeah, it's not a seven It's certainly not a seven four point five.

Yeah, that's where I put this even like Anthony Hopkins Like you can't hop into give him this little to do yeah, I'm a couple of weird monologues and that's it. Yeah, bummer Yeah, this movie was it was just boring. Mm-hmm. It was just really boring Yeah, and like you know, it's not fair to be to compare it to stand by me, but you have to it's the same in so many ways We can compare it to every other Stephen King movie where like bits of other movies are present here It's almost as if they just like clipped out like stories and shit from previous movies Yeah, and pasted it all into this one thing.

Hey question about the low men. Do you think that's like willy-lo-man? Yeah, do you yeah? I actually do think that like willy-lo-man the death of a salesman Yeah, do you know think that I don't know why cuz like again my whole thing about how it's like a it's like a loss of innocence Coming of age thing the low men there are these these singular monolithic White of their individuality people come in to get this guy who's like this force of kindness and wonder in the world He says read books expand your mind and the low men for low men.

Yeah, low men Yeah, I really low men was Jewish and Stephen King is a noted anti-semite. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of Steve King Different guy a little topical humor for us on the show Shows over yeah, shows over over shows over That's the best thing on the board by the way, I love my favorite we should go back and rewatch those The goves movies what movie is that from the night shift a big rat movie? Yeah.

Oh my god Remember we just had to watch a big rat movies It's a simpler time. Yeah, I pre 9 11 Yeah, that it's I don't know I do kind of miss the times when it was just like yeah big monster in a basement kind of a ship Yeah, that movie is a movie unto itself though. There is nothing like a nice shift This movie like hard saying a lot of I feel like doesn't happen unless you get like a successful Shawshank and Green Mile And and they're like we could take some of these other like low-key magical kind of Stephen King stories and make them good Yeah, and this was not one. No, this is actually this is based off of Shorts are it's a short story in the book hearts in Atlantis, but it's not the story hearts in Atlanta Yeah, although the title is taken from that book.

Yeah from this short story. I'm assuming yeah, it's it's a What do you call the books with many stories? It's a book of the four short stories and this one is For some reason my computer is not working. It's called like the Something that the yellow jackets like something like that.

Yeah, but we can't talk about it anyway, right? So I wish you were there actually making a movie called hearts in Atlantis based on the actual hearts in Atlanta Sorry hearts in Atlantis to still brought again. Yeah, are they really they are? When's it coming out?

I don't know Have you heard about this? Look, are you sure it's not an IMDB hearts in at lantis guys. This is is this an exclusive? Oh Hold on Stephen King short story is getting a thing a thing a thing Stephen King's heart's in Atlanta short story is getting its own film adaptation.

No cool If you're a fan of the 2001 heart's in Atlanta Land is Stephen King It's a it was an article on the AV club. Oh, did you notice that this movie is who is dedicated to no Synodemotographer named piotr so but Jinsky, okay, am I saying his name, right? Yeah Am I I have no idea? I don't know.

I thought you might be stoked. They dedicated to him. I thought who is a cinematographer So I assumed he was like an important cinematographer. I'm not familiar with his work Ransom is the only the Ron Howard movie ransom That movie is that what that's from?

Yeah, oh Do you hear a little crackly? Wow cool. Wow, we're like a more like a shoegaze band. Yeah, uh No, I didn't know that was that yeah, is that the recording or is it just my headphones that sound like that?

Hey, is it better? Do you hear it in yours? Well, then it's just the there we go. Are you good now?

Yeah, we should cut that if we remember Yeah, we won't that's the movie folks. Yeah, that's it So guys again rate review on iTunes leave us a nice nice word do it as Stephen King telling me who the third child from Everybody loves me remember so far. We've got Jeffrey and we've got Ali just need that other twin right please and thank you So check out the patreon. Yeah, check it out check it out.

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What's the next movie Rob? I've never known It's been over a year. I've never known never known Next movie. I'm like baby.

We're going back to the cornfield. Oh, no, I really don't want to do We got like one veto for the show. Nope. No vetoes.

Yeah, I also really don't want to but it is the last one for a while That's good. Oh god for how long? You don't have to count. No, it's just like about it after it's a while.

It's a really months What's the full title of this one? Is this revelations or do we do that already? It is revelation children of the corn seven? Yeah, the seventh corn kids movie.

Yeah, here. I was thinking this would be a fun loopy franchise dead ass wrong It has been I wanted to be set in Germany and and it's it's all about that corn that got exported from from three Three yeah from part three urban harvest. Oh, that was a good one Remember when the ladies had split open like the turkey from National You want to know you want to know the summary of the next movie sure when a girl named Jamie repeatedly con tries to contact her Grandma repeatedly contacts her grandmother. Yeah, just won't stop saying hi to granny repeatedly tries to contact contact her grandmother to no avail Yes, she investigates by going to her apartment in Omaha, Nebraska The scariest place on earth didn't we establish that Omaha is like a town with like a hotel and a like there's a Hilton It's like a full-on town right in six six six don't they like she's like isn't there another hotel?

She's like yeah, there's a Hilton in Omaha. It's like a joke. Someone makes anyway Yeah, only to find that it's been condemned and overtaken by possessed children This was written by a user and it's children exclamation mark as she digs deeper She discovers a dark secret about her grandmother and awakens a dark demonic force. Oh, fuck's money perhaps that wants Jamie dead And we'll stop it doesn't sound like there's much corn in that movie.

I didn't see a lick of corn We'll say this it's straight to video. Yeah, like the last three or four. Yeah, we're getting into a certain era of movie poster style though Which I can't really describe but I'll post a picture obviously if you listen on sound cloud you see that we put the movie posters with each Episode yeah, so you'll see it there. Maybe on Twitter or something.

Maybe But that's all I have to say this week. How about you? No, I guys okay. Well, check out introducing the first appearance podcast.

There you go Oh, yeah, you can follow us on Twitter at kingney prod you can email us at kingney potty gmail.com or also on Facebook So you can look us up there. We're pretty active on there I just read an article about the AV club not about the AV club. They wrote it. Yeah, but it's about The shining Stanley Kubrick's the shining verse MacGaris is the shining.

Uh-huh and whether or not Stephen King is on solid ground in hating the film Hmm. Yeah. Well, it's pretty interesting. All right, I'll share it to the page.

Yeah, so thanks for listening as always We'll see you next week for corn kid seven revelation until then I'm dang egg we already I'm Robbie I'm Robbie on Stephen King

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