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EPISODE · Mar 10, 2026 · 1H 15M

/538/ Muskism ft. Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff

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On the operating system of the 21st century. Historian Quinn Slobodian and tech writer Ben Tarnoff talk to Alex Hochuli and Alex Gourevitch about their new book, Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, and why we should ask "what is Musk a symptom of?" If Fordism characterised the mid-20th century, are our times those of Muskism? What are the touchstones of Muskism that the authors identify: fortress futurism, financial fabulism, state symbiosis? Who is the real Musk, that of vehicles, energy, infrastructure, or that of the post-industrial stuff of social media, finance, AI? What does Muskism promise people? How does it legitimise itself – if at all? Is the state actually dependent on Musk, or is Musk dependent on the state? How much of Musk's right-wing turn is necessary to Muskism, and how much is contingent? Is the racial component central? Links: Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff, Harper Collins /57/ Übermenschen of Capital Pt. 1 ft. Alex Gourevitch  

On the operating system of the 21st century. Historian Quinn Slobodian and tech writer Ben Tarnoff talk to Alex Hochuli and Alex Gourevitch about their new book, Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, and why we should ask "what is Musk a symptom of?" If Fordism characterised the mid-20th century, are our times those of Muskism? What are the touchstones of Muskism that the authors identify: fortress futurism, financial fabulism, state symbiosis? Who is the real Musk, that of vehicles, energy, infrastructure, or that of the post-industrial stuff of social media, finance, AI? What does Muskism promise people? How does it legitimise itself – if at all? Is the state actually dependent on Musk, or is Musk dependent on the state? How much of Musk's right-wing turn is necessary to Muskism, and how much is contingent? Is the racial component central? Links: Muskism: A Guide for the Perplexed, Quinn Slobodian & Ben Tarnoff, Harper Collins /57/ Übermenschen of Capital Pt. 1 ft. Alex Gourevitch

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