Hello and a groovy welcome to Retrospection, a podcast in which we take on an old TV show film as if it should be given, immortality, off-bed garlic until it shrivels and dies. My name's Colin and you with Play Your Brains Against Mine, I get to me who has commanded nations. Yeah you wish. My name's Paul and the full extent of my wild ways is half a pint of lerg and having again.
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you've heard about that much isn't it? Yeah you've heard about it. You think it's a myth. And I like Dracula.
Oh you're very real. And this episode was Sticking a Steak Through Dracula AD 1972 when Johnny Alachard raises Count Dracula from the Dead in London in 1972, the camp goes after the descendants of Van Helsing. They do. The film stars Christopher Lee as Count Dracula, Peter Cushing as Professor Larimer Van Helsing, Stephanie Beecher as Jessica Van Helsing, Caroline Monroe as Laura Bellows, Mmejet, Hugt as Gaynor, Michael Coles as Inspector Murray and Michael Kitchen as Greg.
Well I mean you say it stars Chris Lee as Count Dracula but blink in your mister. Yeah I think he's in. He's not in it much is he? Ahh.
Yeah I guess now I didn't really think about it though. He means no his presence carried through the film even when he wasn't in the scenes. Present? I think that was his birthday.
Ohh. Jokes? It's early. Wow.
I saw an opening I couldn't doubt myself. You know I've heard that about you before. What? It's directed by Alan Gibson, written by Don Harton and music by Michael Vickers who was a former member of Manfred's Man.
And it shows. Right it certainly does. So do you have any info about the film? Well um Don Hatton was a Doctor Who writer.
Was it really? He was yeah. This was his big break into movies. Was it?
I mean was it? Well there's big breaks and then there's big breaks. Oh now I've got the film tune to that. Jim Davis and Quischer on my head.
So did I. I was going to be annoying. Oh I missed those days. So it's a seventh film in the Hammer Dracula series?
Seventh. And there's one more after this. Also contemporary right? Yes.
Satanic Rants of Dracula. Mmm. Mmm. I like it.
I like it. I've heard that. Yeah. So at this point in Hammer's lifespan, James Carrera has pretty much left the film business.
He was the guy that was in charge of Hammer up to that point. Oh okay. And he was just basically using these films as a way to fund these other suits. Oh okay sorry.
No. He wanted to be a big wig amongst the toffs if you get money even. I can't do I think. Yeah okay.
So I thought the money to get from the other body is way. The original title for this was Dracula Chelsea 1971. Worst football pool score ever. Oh football joke.
Hey you got a lap. That's a terrible title. It is yeah it is. And apparently they changed it because by the time it was released Chelsea was no longer the place to be anymore.
Oh it wasn't the swing in place of London. Not anymore. All the swing in 60s thing had finished by that point. So everyone knows that Chris Willy didn't want to do this film and there's all those stories about Hammer saying that people's jobs were at risk if you didn't do it.
You say everybody knows I didn't. Well if you know Hammer everyone knows it. Just not you apparently. No I'm not afraid to admit it.
That's why you're here. Did you show us the trailer? Oh yeah go ahead let's play that baby. Right out of this world.
Dye September the 1872. A hundred years ago to the day. Witness it. Must swear before the name of the devil to keep it secret.
Who knows about vampires for God's sake. My grandfather died from the dead. That's terrible to us. Dangerous and out of all time.
No. The year is 1972. A leap year in horror. A vintage year for vampires.
Oh for the masters of horror to meet again. From the 20th century. Come to me. Come.
The night has over. It'll destroy you. It's a great trailer isn't it? Yesterday.
Today. Tomorrow. Thursday. Next week.
Whenever. I like the bit in the trailer where it goes. You. You.
No you. You will be Dracula's next victim. And there's a line where it's you who witnessed it but it sounds like it's going. You who witnessed it.
There's another great line that says he's ready to freak you right out of the grave. Yeah a leap year in horror. A vintage year for vampires. Also.
Have a good year for wine. You don't have no control in the bar anymore. No. It's clearly been sold on the fact that it's a Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee Dracula reunion as well.
Even though they have what? Once seen with each other at the end of the movie. And at the beginning. Oh yeah I suppose as well isn't that.
Oh yeah. Also it makes it look like it's some kind of psychological horror film. And then they intercut all the swinging London stuff in it as well don't they. Yeah.
I love the captain says featuring the band Stone Ground. It's if you're supposed to go wow Stone Ground how did they get those people. It's like hey hey Stone Ground let's go watch that one. Stone Ground.
No. Who the hell are Stone Ground? I have no idea. They're not bad though.
No. We'll talk about them in a minute but they're not that bad. But playing in somebody's living room is probably the biggest gig they've ever had. There's films probably the biggest gig they've ever had isn't it.
It's a de-exist outside of this film. I guess they must have been. Not for long. No.
Yeah yeah I like the trailer. In some ways I like the trailer more than the movie. Yeah the trailer certainly grabs your attention. It does.
Are you talking about any particular points that grab your attention in the trailer? No. No just the general swinginess of it. Right.
I thought that was probably what it was. Yeah. So shall we usually crack on? Absolutely.
Whipped crack away. Alright. So we open on a coach racing down a country road with Van Helsing and Dracula locked in mortal combat on the roof as a horse is race out of control. Yep.
Shooting day for night. Well it's a given that at this point isn't it. Yeah yeah. Some of the blue on the lens and go for it.
I mean we're not showing over night shoes at this point in Hammers life span are we? No. No. And it assumes that you've got some background with the film that you know who's who because it doesn't tell you.
It's kind of like a bond opening right? Action sequence. I was going to say that. Oh yeah.
Alright. Yes. It is. It's like when you're coming in on Bond's last mission aren't you?
Okay I don't want to be coming in on Bond's last mission. It's a happy second. I know where he's being. Yeah.
So we get a voice over. Oh you get the whole thing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
This is going to be embarrassing. I'm not going to miss out with this. So the year is 1872 the Nightmare Legend of Count Dracula extends its terrifer beyond the mountains of Carpathia to the Victorian metropolis of London. Here in Hyde Park the final confrontation between Lawrence Van Helsing breathe.
And his arch enemy the demon vampire Dracula. Very good. How was that? I was alright.
So I've got a problem with this. Tell me what your problem is. Okay so. It sounded like a professional then didn't I like a doctor.
Tell me what your problem is. Well I've got this itch. No it's take two of these. Never call me again.
Boom. That's where you got it from. It's not going to go there. Well if you hadn't you want to get the itch.
Are you done? Are you done with the. I've done. I've done.
I finished well. The first the last film was called Scares of Dracula. It was which we've covered. Yes.
Okay previous episode. Yes. Do you remember that one? For a second.
I didn't. Did you notice for a second I was like. I saw the little light going in your eyes. Oh yeah.
Okay so that was the previous one today's. Okay. Which doesn't end. I think we can do anything in Transylvania.
But the movie before that was Taste the Blood of Dracula. Which is set in England. So I like to think that this is a direct sequel to Taste the Blood of Dracula and that Scares of Dracula was actually set somewhere between the third and the fourth movie. What do you think of that?
I'm sure it's interesting to somebody. Well me. Yeah. No so it just seems an odd choice to miss out Scares of Dracula.
Whereas they've always been quite linear up to this point. Oh do you have any knowledge of reasons why? They had to move it to England and saw this is the only way right. Yeah but it's the kind of thing they do all the time that movies isn't it.
you think of the Halloween movie that was a direct sequel to the first Halloween movie. And then you terminate the movie that's coming out this year which is a direct sequel to 1 and 2 and missing out 3, 4 and however many were up to at this point. Okay well usually that's because someone else has made them like a different company and it's switched offs things have changed. This is how I'm making their own films so you think they'd have some kind of link between them.
Yeah I think they were desperate to move Dracula into a contemporary setting because most horror films at that point were in a contemporary setting. That makes sense. Alright. Mmhmm.
For the record it didn't bother me. Well it wouldn't be would it? No. Well that's because I didn't have to know that.
Well now you do. Yeah still don't care. I've been parted, I've been parted then Holly Jonti. You have?
I've shot the knowledge all over you. I'm licking the knowledge off. What's going on here? Ohhh.
Anyway so Van Helsing and Dracula, let's get back to the movie, fighting atop the speeding coach and Dracula has him by the throat when suddenly the rain snap. Van Helsing is thrown clear and the coach smashes into a tree. Bits everywhere. Bits everywhere.
Holy naw there's a big bit in Dracula. Yeah, a broken carriage wheel. Yeah Van Helsing is groggy but he gets to his feet only to find a Dracula has been impaled by a spoke from the broken wheel. Which I like.
Bloody unlucky really, if you ask me. You know that idea. I like it, I think it's a good idea. Well it's something they've never done before.
Yeah I think someone sat there and went what's what's sharpened pointy on a carriage? What about a spokes and a wheel? Oh yeah, I think it's a good idea, I like it. When he comes around from the carriage and he's got it in bed and I like to.
I think the worst one that they use in one of the films is from Dracula's Risen from the grave where at the start of the movie someone throws a massive cross which sticks in the ground and then layer Dracula happens to fall on it. I prefer this one. So this is only to cut with shots of a mysterious man on horseback racing to the scene. Van Helsing and Dracula struggle again and Van Helsing tries to force the spoke deeper into the vampire's heart.
So finally succeeding, Dracula goes limp. He does, he goes limp. And Helsing watches as the vampire turns to dust very slowly. Yeah, just his ring left.
I know, make your own joke. Yeah, and I did. And it was a music in my head. So sorry, it's fine that a job is well done.
Van Helsing collapses and dies. That's what you do after a job well done. Have you been watching again? It just collapses and dies.
Now the effects of this sequence aren't too bad, I don't think. The dissolving one? The disintegration. Yeah, I mean we all know how they did it but it's pretty good.
It works. Yeah, I have no problem with it. I mean it's not as good as the original Dracula movie but nothing is. Yeah.
It's just nothing happening. You've got a clue I'm talking about. It looks fine. So mysterious rider arrives and he picks up Dracula's ring.
Someone has to. Yeah. And he scoops up some of his ashes into a glass of oil and he heads to a glass of church. It's a very modern looking veil though.
It is. It is and I think it's the same veil that they used in taste of blood and Dracula. Also, having him dissolve in his ring left, very flash-goordany. Oh, well there's lots of links between flash-goord and Dracula.
Okay. Oh god. Yeah, that's particularly, particularly horror of Dracula where they did it first. There's an imprint of Dracula's hand on the floor and it blows away and it just studdly the ring.
They're completely sold out in flash-goord. Okay. So the guy goes to the mysterious rider, the guy goes to a church where there's a funeral taking place and it's Van Helsing's funeral, that was bloody quick. Yeah, well you had two those days plague, you know, all that stuff.
It was the 1800s. It wasn't like the middle ages. I didn't say which plague. It was a.
Oh, there's always a plague. Oh, right. Oh, it was always a plague. Yeah, it was always a plague.
Love someone that was unclean. You're probably going to get one post Brexit. I don't know what you mean. So as Van Helsing's coffin is lowered into the grave, I'm a serious man.
Oh, sorry. If I'm in fact, I thought Helsinki was coughing. It's like he's dead. Look, anyone here that died?
That's what killed him. Yeah, he's dirty coughing. Told you. He's begins with coughing and ends in a coffin.
Yeah, funny that. I don't know. Not really. So the mysterious man who's obviously a servant of Dracula at this point.
No, just on the side. This guy is Johnny Alakard, isn't he? Yeah, I can't. I assume so, yes, but he's the same actor, isn't it?
It's the same actor, but he's a descendant. Yeah. He's a descendant. Yeah, that yeah, because he talks about his line doesn't he later?
Yeah, because he doesn't get changed until later. Yes, that's right. So he's he's a descendant. So you know, a servant of Dracula and he buries some of Dracula's remains in the cemetery grounds and puts a stake in it.
Yeah, but he took from the wheel. I mean, from the wheel. I don't mean a piece of meat on it. No, because that wouldn't last long.
Although neither would have wouldn't take. But they built things a lot better in the 1800s than they do now. It still would, but it would. Maybe it's got a special varnish on it or something.
Oh, that special varnish, okay. Yeah, yeah, it's coated in special varnish. Got it. So we cut from that to an airplane flying overhead and one of the funkiest theme shoes ever put to film, I think.
I like the transition. And as a credit, play out, we get shots of modern 1972 London, don't we? Yeah. And you know, like how we get mashups in films, like we get G.I.
Joe meets Transformers. You know, this could have been like a Dracula meets the Sweeney. Oh, we got a lot of that, don't we? It would have been good, don't we?
Oh, way through this film. Just come in the curse, what, I'm like, shot it with a Sweeney and we, I'm that a garlic. It would have been good, right? It was just like punching and...
Well, it would have been nice if later when we meet Inspector Murray that he's actually Regan. That would have been... Yeah, yeah, he just grabs the woman and goes, you slag. Well, I mean, he's written like Regan anyway, isn't he kind of?
He's a little more thoughtful. Yeah, I suppose. But yeah, the music's fantastic. And it's kind of like a 1970s, some like a Jason King type theme tune, isn't it?
Yeah. Yeah. That's very groovy. So then we got to a party in a swanky London club.
Yeah. And did you know there's a guy dancing on his own in a green jumper in glasses? Is there really? Yeah, it's like he's at the wrong party.
He's like going next door to the mathematician's shindig and he just turned up accidentally. He's just on his own. And moving backwards and forwards, dressed totally different from anybody else. That would be awesome.
Don't you wish you were in the 70s when you see films like this? Just like some parties? Yeah, no one seems to give a shit what they look like either. No, it's great.
Yeah. We should have been born in the 60s, not the 70s. That's right. We missed a great period.
We did. So there's a bunch of hippies that seem to crash the place and they also book their own band as well because I can't imagine that they live there and book this band. That's one of the things like the woman, like the mother of one of the people who live in this place are like, I don't like your friends, you know, and he's like, well, I didn't invite them. So at what point did they realize that the band must have come in, set up the instruments, set up the microphones, tuned up the instruments.
At what point did people go, hold on, did you invite this hippie band? It's not like they just burst in and started playing music. They must have been there a while setting everything up. Yeah, but maybe they're so posh that they're polite and they didn't.
Nobody wanted to say anything. Oh, right. They just just took it and walked away. Yeah, that British thing.
Oh, look at these. Oh, you said something useless. Right. Yeah.
Okay. Maybe that's what happened. So amongst the trendy young guys and girls, Jessica Van Helsing, Johnny Alucard. Where are you going to nice son, bro?
Yes. I think I should get one of those. Have you been on those? Nope.
No, no, don't do that, pal. Laura Bellows. What? Sorry.
And a couple of other dudes that no one cares about. Wow, that's harsh. One of them is dressed like a monk. Was a monk, Garber thing in London in the early 70s?
I don't recall seeing it anywhere else, do you? No, no, maybe it was. We just don't know about it. Maybe the monks are the swinging ones.
Swinging monks. Yeah. I remember those. But they're always hanging from Bells, aren't they?
That's true. Yeah, at the end. Right, end of Bells. Someone say the...
I'm not going to say it. No, no, they're in my house. You see where I'm going. Yeah, it's not going.
Yes, that's where you were going. I'm not going there. Okay. So the old funny dude, he's looking on in horror as the young people dance in smooch.
And the monk guy lifts up a tablecloth to find a couple underneath it. Still at it. Caw! He says, just carry on Dracula.
Yeah, but why they're having sex, she's eating an apple. You've never done that? No, well, I just drink spivlicol, right? Oh, that was rather smart of him.
Thanks. That's surprising to me. Don't make you say about carry on Dracula. There is that kind of feel about it.
Yeah, but it's only in this bit though, isn't it? They kind of lose it later. Yeah. It is a film of many tones.
It is. It's a horror film. I guess it's a horror film. I mean, I suppose it's classed as a horror film.
It's not very horrific, but sometimes it feels more like a police procedural than a horror film. Yes, yes it does. It's got very weird changes in it. Yeah.
It's a band pretty cool, don't it? I like the song Alligator Man. Oh, yeah. I'm an alligator man.
Stick around to the end of the podcast and you'll get a burst of it. Oh, can't wait. I'd rage just as an old lady before telling off her rather painfully posh son who's in a success because she says that he invited him on and he says, I've never seen any of them in my life. That's right.
They're just all strolled in. They did. So the monk guy just sort of takes a piss out of them. I might be funny, but I'm on the tough side because this monk dude, he's a rock prick and I didn't get that good of a lock.
Well, under his hand, have it. Yeah. Oh, God, no. I'm having flashbacks in previous episodes.
Better tick-tied. Oh, God. I bet he didn't. Oh, he didn't.
He didn't go to anybody. Hey, retrospective back in the now a bit, eh? Yeah. Never left to have it, did you?
Well, I gave it off for a while. 20 minutes. It brought me back in. Did it.
All right. So the friends realize that the fuzz, as they call them, have been called, but they reckon that they have about four minutes before they arrive. Time for another song then. Yeah.
I think this is where we get Alligator Man, isn't it? I think it is. Yeah. This whole sequence probably felt silly in 1972, don't you think?
They think it was kind of like an old person's idea of what young people are up to at that point. If a film had come out in 1968, you probably would have got away with it. But yeah, it's past the time that this would have been because, you know, this is 72 glam rock, you know? Yeah.
I mean, we're into exactly that point. Yeah. It's definitely out of date. Even when it came out.
Yeah. That's hammer for you, then. Yeah. That's true.
Yeah. I'm learning that. Big round of the pulse is stopped about two years before, as well. The pulse of the carbs, which is fitting for the regular film.
Absolutely. Yeah. And the young group make their exit. But Johnny Alakard, he's pretty cool about the whole thing.
He just kind of saunters Cooley off, but not before he taunts the old lady with a priceless ornament there. He ultimately just knocks off a table and smashes dick. Yeah. He is a bit right.
Yeah. Absolutely. What do you think of this guy's performance? Oh, I times I quite like it.
I like that he has a good face for like some demonic evil like Granny can give occasionally. Mm-hmm. You know, it works pretty well. He reminds me of, oh, there used to be a TV series about these poets, a camera where it was called.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, like everyone's hanging on their every word and they think that it kind of comes across like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. He has a certain magnetism. You know he's had a bond connection as well, don't you? Yes, because he's made me some money penny in Dr.
Nol, right? Not quite, no. Okay, what's the bond connection? No, license to kill.
Yes. He's the guy that's sent to bring bond back. You know, the, you're a loose cannon on deck. Oh.
And then he gets blown up. Okay. Remember that guy? No, of course not.
I've got things to think about, Paul. Oh, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I do. Yeah.
He's just a little card, Monk and Greg. That's what I'm calling them all now. Oh, okay. He's just Monk.
I'm calling him Monk. Right. Go ahead. You can do that.
I don't know what his name is. He won't care. I could curlesse to be honest. No.
They walked down on the street and Monk gets some funny looks for the way he's dressed. So I guess it wasn't a 70s thing after all. Oh, well, you think he would, he'd be the only one out of all those weird costumes to not get funny looks because the Monk's a monk, right? I mean, you know, he could just be a real monk.
Yeah, exactly. Everyone else is wearing wacky stuff. The 70s. Very judgmentally in the 70s apparently.
Right. So they're going to meet up with everyone else in a coffee bar for coffee and Coca-Cola. It was such an innocent time back then, wasn't it? Yeah.
Is that the cavern? The cavern, yeah. I mean, where's the diamond white? That's what they'd be doing in our day, wasn't it?
Well, isn't this the next morning or is this at night after the party? Oh, come on. Would it matter? Okay.
No, no, I guess not. The young people hanging out in a coffee bar. That was a thing once, you know. People still hang out in coffee bars?
Yeah, it's not the same thing, is it? I could just see you in what it was. It should be good. Go on.
In coffee coffee. Yes, yeah. Drinking coffee, talking about demons. What, my demons?
Yeah, you're in demons. It's just an exit space around you. Those people are dragging their kids away, covering their eyes. Are you following me again?
So they're all bored and they're looking for new scenes and happenings. Yeah, neat something new, but old as time. Yeah, we're all looking for that. Yeah, we are all.
Wait, what are we looking for? Scenes and happenings. I'm not sure I am too old for scenes and happenings. Well, you know, we're not in early years like these people are, you know, wearing our lactic years now, aren't we?
Although I'm pretty sure some of them are not as young as they're supposed to be. No, I'm pretty sure Stephanie Beak, which was probably about 35 minutes. Maybe. No, I think she's probably about 20.
Yeah. She looks good though. Oh, I'm glad she actually approved. The poll was the poll.
No, not really. The policy of approval stop looks good. What sort of Johnny Alacard? He looks good as well.
And Chris really looks excellent. And Peter Kushner, he looks fantastic. Alright. Do you think he may have?
Yeah, I think he may have. Just about. I hope so. So Johnny has an idea for a date with a devil.
A back and all with Elsie Bob. Yeah, a great line. It is. It's fair what he said it.
He didn't say it. He didn't pronounce it. Be Elsie Bob. It's his brother.
He never gets invited to things. Sorry. Oh, Mr. Bob.
So some of them aren't really that fast and they sort of take the piss out of them a little bit. Except Laura, who's gushing at the idea. Oh, is she? Oh, yeah.
It's Caroline. She's gushing. I've met her, you know? Yeah, no, you tell me every time.
Every single time we do a film that she's in, you mention this. Did I? I said it before. Oh, once or twice.
She's lovely. She's lovely. Yeah, she's lovely, no. Alright, move on.
So Jessica Wiltz. Jessica Wiltz, I think I hear all this. Okay. She Wiltz.
Yeah, I thought it was a character called Jessica Wiltz. I've tried a few times ago. Who'd that was? I don't remember her being in the film.
So Johnny Alacard explains that they need a de-sanctified church. Which luckily Alacard knows of. St. Bert- is it Bartles?
St. Bertles? Yeah, yeah. It's not written the way it sounds.
It's not. Apparently, Jupiter is a demolition, isn't it? Yes, it is, yeah. So the group as a whole agreed to go ahead and they're going to meet that night.
So Johnny erases home to his swanky bachelor pad. He takes a Dracula's ring and his vial of ashes. Yeah. Which he keeps below a rather well done etching of Christopher Lee.
That's nice. You know? You've got to have your heroes. It is.
Well, exactly. We all look up to people, don't we? Yeah. I have William Shatner.
I have my Ghandi or Don Johnson. I think we both know which one. Which one you really hang up there, wouldn't you? Yeah.
One day you'll meet him. Maybe. And he'll punch you in the face. For what?
Me and you. I don't know. I really love you with the heartbeat video. You're taking a piss?
That was my Don Johnson impersonation. Really? Not really, though. Like Boris Johnson.
You're taking a piss? That was my... Where are you going with this? I don't know.
I just stopped. Yeah, I would. So, uh, Jess and Bob are washing the car. And Bob convinces her that it'd be a bit of a laugh to do the black mass in the end, wouldn't it?
Oh, yeah. It always sounds a good laugh, right? A black mass? It does, but then he asks if she could get some background on it all from her grandfather, who happens to be a professor of demonology.
That's right. Mr. Lauren Van Helsing. Exactly.
I wonder who that's going to be played by? Dick Van Dyke. Oh, that'd be funny. Blimey, go by me.
Go by me. I'll stake your Dracula. How can you be English and not do a good cotton accent? You talk about me?
Yeah, I do a better one than you. That's because you live down there. Yeah, but I'm not from down here, am I? Plus I was surrounded by...
I was just doing it for fun. I didn't know I was doing it for Critical appraisal. Didn't know you're going to run off and write a paper about it. Always a boy, wouldn't I?
So, um, we're trying to a nice to dry through London before Bob drops her off at home. There's a few things like this where people just dry out in through London, isn't it? Yeah, not too many, though. I didn't bother me.
I didn't feel like it was possible to me because it's always nice to see... No, but it's always nice to see 70s London anyway, isn't it? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I didn't feel like it was padding, like, the time out because the shot film anyway.
Yes, it is quite a short film. Yeah. But yeah, no problem with it at all. So, inside Jess goes into a grandfather's study and she browses his books on the occult.
And grandfather, Laura Mervan Helsing, comes home. And he's a little concerned about reading books about black masses. Well, you would, wouldn't you? So, he tells her that the family has strong traditions on the occult and that he's conducted research in it for over a century.
Well, not him, but he's family. Okay, so, wow. He's looking well, aren't he? Yeah, he's kind of not, though, isn't he?
Really? Also, and this is the point where Jess goes to the beach with steps using phrases like way out a man. And it just comes across kind of weird. It's almost like she's too old to be using phrases like that.
Yeah, it's all very thoughtless, isn't it? Yeah, it doesn't feel natural. Yeah, again, like I said before, it feels like an old guy's idea of the way young people talk. Right, yeah.
You know that originally in the script he was supposed to be her father? Well, does it then? Yeah, but they also mess it up in the film because at some point I think they refer to the original Van Helsing has a great grandfather and it should be her great-great-grandfather. I mean, I think I read someone that there's a kind of a mistake in the film about that.
That probably comes down to the fact that they had to rewrite it and then they just kind of lost their way a little bit. He was supposed to be a dad, but then he aged really badly in between his wife, Diane. Oh. So they had to kind of change it a little bit.