Hello and welcome back to Tiboursports Radio, issue number 54. In this episode we'll be checking out the fallen footwear, Eurotorque, featuring light to Chris Cole, Tommy Sandoval, Reggie Kelly and Adam Arunsky, a couple others in there as well. Antonio Duroo, he's got a new park called Lawn Guy Land, which we'll have a chat about as well and we'll also be covering the Falcon's Nine Lives comic by Netface. Let's play the theme tune and we'll get stuck in.
Hello everyone, thanks for tuning into Tiboursports Radio, I'm Ryan Dodds and alongside me today, well not alongside me, obviously we're not allowed to do that howie but digitally alongside me is Mr. Jonnash as a guy mate. Oh right, I was a bit too bad, not too bad. Now we've got some big shit coming through with obviously fallen favourite of ours but we ain't going there yet, we ain't going there yet.
I want to get into some insta-quits but then who started this chain off, for the episode of Switch Radio, me, Will and Jonnash got this chat and we kind of send things in that we want to talk about, it's pretty fucking professional. But there was this one clip that Jonnash, I'm sure you sent it in here, of this old boy who does these wrestling videos and one of them was at a skate park. You did send it right Jonnash, it was you who sent me. Yeah, that was me that sent that.
Yeah, it is brilliant isn't it? Mate, as soon as I saw that I was like I know exactly who needs to see this. I didn't need to see it. That made my day.
So who's, what's your boy, it's Lord Adrian, so Lord, this kind of offends me but we'll go with it. So at L0RD.ADAN, that kind of fucks me off a little bit with this year. You're going to tell me now that you do that on Instagram as well with Jono, you put two zeros on it. No, do I fuck.
The motherfucker gets like chokeslammed into the bowl through a table or something, it's very shit. So some of what he gets like kicked in the face coming out the bowl, some of it takes a spear, the fans pick him all up, pick the other geezer up as well, and then what does he do here? He pushes him away, comes in, RKO on concrete, right? That is like, so if you don't know what RKO is, and I mean go and check this video, clip out, it's brilliant, and he does loads of funny videos.
And then sorry, he proceeds now, he's, there's a classic chokeslam off the edge of the bowl. It's probably like a five foot six foot bowl, and there's a table, like a picnic table sort of thing down the bottom of it, and he chokeslams him into it. If you don't know what we're talking about and rest in the shit, don't worry about it, don't worry about it, at the end of the world. But this old boy, Lord Adrian, he puts out some brilliant, brilliant videos, and this would shit would hurt mate, that RKO and the concrete, I ain't taking a RKO fucking concrete, that's for damn sure.
That's straight onto his back. That can't feel good. No, no, no, any skateboarder watching this shit, because we know like skate park ground is hard as fuck, it's hard on the streets, you'd rather take a slam on the streets, you know, like, obviously you'd rather take a slam on the streets, you might get a fucking heavy slam on the streets, but skate park, you hit that ground, it's hard, there is no reverb, there's nothing, no gravel moving, you know, nothing, you're just going to hit it. And yeah, that, if you said to me what, I've got an idea for a video, wrestling, I was like, you've got me, obviously like the night, you know, stone cold and the undertaker and that lot, right.
So I'm going to go to the OWP, Oxford Wheel of Project and choke some of you off the edge of the bowl, into the bowl, through a table. Yeah, that would have been the end of the conversation, I wouldn't even dignitise it with a response mate, because it's just, but this video is brilliant. So go and check it out, give this up where it's not that you need it, I think it's got probably five billion followers or something like that. I said, well look, he's got 201,000 followers, so he's doing it all right, but yeah, he's got so many, he's like, he'll be in a mall doing it, he'll be in a doctor's doing it, a gym doing it, just getting a wrestling going, just like he's been a footlock or something like that and he just starts wrestling with some old boy, it's hilarious.
I was having a quick look through the Instagram earlier and they've made it to semi-professional wrestling in America as well. Oh, no, so he actually goes in a ring and everything. Yeah, in a ring and they're doing it properly. It's like GCW or something, I've never heard of it, but yeah, he's, they're on the show.
Hopefully in a couple of years time in the WWE, we'll see Lord Adrian choke some in people in skate parks. Yeah, I'd like to see that. That'd be awesome. Well, next clip mate, so the one I think I sent to you was a cheeky little clip on a, kind of like, you know, like a quarter-pipe planter is a spherical kind of planter and make your boy kind of get a kick the back sole, whips it to backside disaster and whips it back in.
It is, what's it, Tommy, Tommy Bjork, his name is, and it is just a thing of beauty. If you haven't seen it, obviously go and check it out and give him a follow. But what are your thoughts on that when I sent that to you mate? That was incredibly smooth.
He's got no business doing something as weird as that and doing it, that's moving. Yeah, I mean, you know my thoughts on this and I'm not aware of these before, I might not have done, but I'm not a big fan of the double stall trick. You know, it doesn't really, doesn't do it for me. There's only a couple that you can kind of get away with, but I really don't like someone kind of going into a blunt stall and then putting it down into a 50 really doesn't do it for me.
And there's some people that can kind of ping it around and put it to like, you know, five stalls again. Just give me a backside tell side on a mini-round. If you're going to do that, that's much more impressive than you pissing about with doing a, you know what I mean? Like a body barrier in bullshit like that.
It just gets a bit messy and like, it sounds horrible. All that clacking around. Yeah, it does. That's exactly it.
It sounds awful and it just looks a bit silly, really. I mean, what I don't understand what you're like. Do you want to care about? I don't know why you're trying to do that.
You spent that much time trying to do that when you could have got like a nice kick out of it or just a blunt to fake you or something. I mean, blunt to fake you to rock and in. You know, that's just about acceptable. I can kind of take that.
You know, when you're learning to blunt, make you and stuff, that's a lot of people got to go that route, which is fine. No, it's still linear. It's still not moving too much. You know what I'm saying?
But you start clicking around. But this, oh boy, yeah, like I said, his name is Tommy Bjork and it is in the Nordic light video. So by Van's Europe. So we will be covering that probably in the next couple of episodes, but some to check out, but he is a smooth motherfucker.
Yeah, love that clip. And then there was another clip that I've got on my radar in mate where we got the Kevin back or 50 50. That's insane, right? I sent this one, didn't I?
He did. He does a monster 50 and it's just the kind of attitude with that power slide and kind of tic-tac-and-away. It just seems more aggressive than it should be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like passive aggressive. Yeah, it's like, yeah, actually like walking with the power slide, like just, you know, becoming it, digging into the concrete. I can't, I'm not sure if I said to you at the time or not, but I weren't a fan of the old boy stopping him that kind of pissing me off. There was some other boy kind of like in his way and that's probably why he did his little crab walk a little bit more than he needed to.
Didn't, didn't like that. There was no car coming, no bus going to hit him. He was just in the way. Yeah, I haven't spoke to you about this ever.
I don't think we spoke at me and Will spoke on the previous issue with make your boy get smacked with the buggy in the school. You seeing this little Johnny? I love that clip. Yeah.
I watched that clip so many times. It just reminded me of Tony Hawk's getting to school level, you know, because he got the make your boy driving around in one of those and he's, yeah, actually happened in a school. Where's the thing of beauty? But it was heavy.
Will said it on the episode. He was like, he broke after the impact. You know, there was impact. Then he broke.
That's sure if I get run over. There's no kind of like, oh, no, he saw it coming and broke. The impact happened. The old boy was probably like, what the fuck was that?
I'm going to break now rather than. Yeah, I was expecting the film to be behind him. I mean, there's loads. If there are some clips of people, you know, the listeners, you want to chat about or anything that kind of stands up to you, there's obviously thousands of clips.
So we're not going to go through fucking 100 of each episode. But there's a couple of highlights we'll definitely do. So right into the terms of Australia, let us know. Oh, you know, Australia, Australia, comments, section, blah, blah, blah, you know, the scroll or Instagram, just send them over and we'll have a little chat about them.
So now whatever you do, mate, let's get stuck into the fall in tour video, which I like to call the fall in Euro strip. I mean, it's a proper Euro trip. Got Barcelona, you got Prague couple other fucking places over there, that place a little part anymore. Overall impression, mate, I'm going to put it out there.
It was it was nice. I think it's like 12 minutes long. So again, when you first see that timestamp, you kind of like going, okay, all right. You know, cuz if they're going to put me in a twenty five, that could have put me off.
Even though Chris was in this, 25 minutes of tour video could just take a bit too much that's just a bit more of a commitment than you can give these days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's a 12-minute video, but it's not really, it's sort of 10 minutes of the skating and then there's sort of two or three minutes of interviews. I think it's two, three, four minutes of B-roll at the end, which I was quite happy with to be there.
When I saw that, you know, those four minutes left, I was like, oh, I'm just going to skip through the little 10-second jump thing because that doesn't really matter at that point. It's over. Chris Coles already killed it at that last skate park. So after that, I didn't see anything else.
It was kind of a refreshing approach to a zero-video. They're not sister companies anymore, but it still feels like that. Obviously you've got the faces in there, but even the way they kind of put it together, punky tune behind it as well, it still had that zero vibe, which it has to. You know, that is its heritage.
I think it just delivered in that space of a tour video. To me, it felt like a DVD that you used to get with Sidewalk, you know, just those weird, I can't remember. There was a specific company or brand that used to do them. I can't remember for like me.
Was it a chain-junk? Was it that? No, not a shake-junk. I know what you're talking about.
I think it does begin with an S though. I've been kicking myself all day because I can't remember it. But yeah, it does feel like those kind of 2008 to 2010 sort of era DVDs that used to get. You're well happy getting one though.
Oh, loved it. Loved it. When you go to the shop and they chuck in some DVDs for you, and you get those. Yeah, if you've got a fallen DVD mate, you'd be well happy.
Oh, Chris Colle, over the moon. Comme sandable. Don't worry about it. It's all right.
Yeah, but there could be more Chris Colle in this though, didn't there? Yeah, all right. We'll get to that. Well, let's go through.
They start and pass it, don't they? So they kind of hit a few of the classic spots. Do some nice little kind of, there's a lot of crispy tray flips in this video. A lot of crispy tray flips.
There is. There's a crispy, I can't remember where it was now. I haven't noted it down all the time, I'm stampering it. But there's a crispy tray to Manny.
Don't know if you saw that one. Real, I think it's a street clip. Might have been Barca. But it was a crispy, it's motherfucking tray going.
And they were just so whipped and so fast to put that into a manual as well. Which is like, how the fuck's happening? That's going too quick for you to stop now and actually put it on the two wheels. Any highlights in there for you mate?
Any kind of things that you obviously will dive into Chris Coles one man session later on. Yeah, anything else that you kind of liked in there? Well, in the Spain bit specifically. Yeah, I mean if you broke it down in the Spain bit specifically, yeah, you can break it down.
But I didn't. I've heard a couple of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take me three notes.
That park in Grenada that they go to, that drive rate. Yes, yes. It's so weird. It's really tall.
It's really steep, but really short. And they fucking rip it a new one. There's trays and all sorts going on there. That would be really weird to skate.
It's nice to boost an ollie over that, wouldn't it? Real nice to just absolutely use. Because it would send you. You know, definitely.
It would definitely send you. Oh, definitely. It might try and whip you out. Yeah, it would whip us out.
Definitely whip me out. There's some real nice parks. It's kind of, it's nice. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of park footage, you know, but when you see a tour and you see the demo kind of side and people turning on, it's a bit different.
You know, park footage versus Chris Coles turning on and showing you what he's got is very different, you know, scenario. Yeah, I think it was really nice to see the park footage and the demos. Because obviously with a year and a half that we've had now, it's just that's not been a thing. Yeah, so are people.
Yes. Yeah, we did use the congregate and just sort of tuck into a tiny shoebox of a skater. Yeah, I remember that. They go to an indoor park, which I really like the look of and everything seems so small.
And they were the way they were skating it. It's kind of like on skate free when someone would make a custom park and everything's just a bit too small for your popping. So you'll jump your all-in up the stairs. You're just skating it really weirdly.
And that's exactly how they were doing. But that hip was lovely, mate. You know, I'm not exactly, that hip, like obviously they would just be, you know, that was like child's play for them. I think Cole got a little couple of clicks on there and they got some nice, crispy trays on there.
They just got a bit of everything on there. But yeah, for us it would be absolutely perfect for big time, big time pros. They could have cleared its play. Yeah, you're paying.
Yeah, exactly. It's just playing. But yeah, I know, I mean, that was a really nice park though. I did like it for an indoor park at the right sort of set up.
And one of the, there was a standout trick in that park. Well, I can't remember who does it, but he does like a nose blunt on a quarter pipe, nose blunt store, but then like a gnoli, I think it's a gnoli backside flip out. Yeah. So he's regular frontside 180s into the nose blunt and then gnoli flips background.
So he comes out face. Yeah, that was beautiful. But that was so good. Yeah.
See, that's not doing too much click clacking, is it? That's just being in there and then getting out in the most technical way you can think of. Are you got any other like check notes mate or anything like that? Are you, is that you just got these space notes and you're done?
I just got the Spain notes and then there's the, I made a note of the last trick. Yeah, you're a Spain correspondent and that won't be. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, so they obviously go to the indoor check park, isn't it?
They kind of cold kills it. I think it's called like Snow Bitch. Yes. It's called Snow Bitch.
Or was that the shop's name? I thought it might have been the shop's name. Slash park. There was a Snow Bitch sign there anyway.
So right, right. And let us know. Cole in this park mate just proceeds to show everyone if he just turns on once to perform at a higher level than most skateboarders can ever even fucking think of. There you go.
He's there. He just does it. He just turns it on. I mean, let me just try to think of a fucking trick up to me.
The blunt slide that he does over the other side. So he goes down on a hover, but he makes it almost out the ledge in front of him. I go on the opposite ledge, but front side, blunt side, it's sort of, sorry, back side, blunt side. On the opposite leg.
And then he also does like bank to, bank to rail. Where he does, I think it's a crook. No, he inward heel out. Yep.
Yep. Again, just. My god. Not a problem.
Yeah. Not a problem. He gets a lovely switch when 85, oh, down the hover. Really, really nice trick.
I fuck about on the side business steps. You know, it's a spot on the foot that we skate and it's literally a curve. It's nice. And I can do that trick on that.
And it feels really good. But I'm never thinking about throwing that down on any sort of hover because of the weight. You know, once you've swung that, obviously, switch when 80 kind of swings easy and you'll be heavy straight away. You know, as soon as you come back into your regular stance, you'll be heavy.
If you missed the five O in land there on the top of the, on the top of the hover, you are getting powerbombed to the ground. We'll be asking fucking Lord Adrian to come down and just back down on us. But it was beautiful. Then he hits his signature front side flip and then the ultra mega special bar 360 front side flip, which is no one on the planet does it like him.
No one. It is just a thing of beauty. That's all guys have built for me. It's weird that sort of earlier in the video, there wasn't much crystal footage.
And then it's at the end. He's like, I can turn it on. Remember? I was a park.
We're in the indoor park as the last stop. Now, now I'll show people what I do. That's funny. See, I like that.
I like, I like, I wasn't even thinking about that. So you're saying you're putting out there to the people, dang, the carrot, that because I don't think, you know, I wasn't thinking about it, but obviously it makes sense. They didn't go on the Euro trip just for demos, did they? They went on the Euro trip to get clipped.
No, you're telling me there's a crystal park around a corner. That's what you're delivering right now on air to on, on, on, on, to millions of people listening around the world. That we're going to have a falling video coming around the corner. Exactly.
Well, that's, you've heard it here first. Yeah, breaking news. What other clips do we have? So you did it.
You got a tray flip up a bank onto top, onto top of a hubber, which is fucking ropey as fuck, but I enjoyed it. Also, what else did he get? Got the classic, what is it? A, is it like a 180, 180's, a fakey five-oh, half cab back out on a round rail.
You know what I'm talking about? He's kind of coming over frontside 180 into fakey five-oh, to do the five-oh backwards and then proceeds to get out of it as well. Like pirouetting on a rail. You're fakey and like a clonkiest way you could do it.
But he just touches the, the five-oh, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, he's pirouetting on it.
But he just like doing like a 180 to make you five-oh is, you're heavy in there. And then he, then he does the frontside half cab out, which again is like a, you know, it's a heavy, um, you know swing. It's, you're not like, well, I'm not fucking like my feet on that trick anyway. And I just, yeah, put it around with valorina like fucking skills when he's what six foot one six foot two or something.
Again, just, yeah, he's, he's the man. And he's just, he's just, he's just a go. Yeah, there's a reason he's a two time so he. Yeah, there is, there is a reason.
And just, I just wish, I just wish he just, one year, just gets a rocket up his ass. Because I think he might, you got to be like 36 or something like that. 36, 87 now. So he still, you know, he's still got time to, to get another one.
I think anyway, I think I'm sure he's, he could probably keep scaling it. As long as he puts out a few good parts, not the one to, but he can eat, if he just wanted one year just to go, you know what, I'm fucking winning it. And he just put out three fucking heavy hitters. It's good video mate.
You never know. Zero party hasn't had one yet. So he's going to have one. Fall in part.
Then he can always do a fucking stomp sessions part or something like that. Yeah, he just seems to be taking it quite easy. I say that and he does all these, you just listed off all these crazy tricks that he's just done. But in the grand scheme of things, he is taking it easy.
So if he just, if he just tries, it's like, yeah, I'm going to put multiple parts out at key times, because he's got his name, he's got that name behind him that would carry a lot more weight than sort of Mason Silver doing six parts or whatever. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Definitely.
And also, mate, count this. He's already got one part in the bag now. He's February. And he's got a part in the bag.
Well, I said part of the video, but whatever he's, he's in, he's taking one off. You never know. You never know. Yeah, let's go to that end clip, mate.
You can deliver that because that was absolutely fantastic. It was fucking beautiful and how dare he. But it was, yeah, yeah, you can break that down if you want. So another driveway, a long one.
Long driveway. Long driveway. And he kickflips, catches it. Amazing catch as well.
Just the kickflip on it on its own would be a thing of beauty. But then he places it perfectly into a 50-50 on this little hubber. Which came out of nowhere. That came out of nowhere.
I thought, oh, this kickflip is, oh, oh, we see, yes, landed on a little hubber on the other side. Fuck. Another trick. I just couldn't believe it when I saw it.
Yeah, it was good. End up. Very good. That's how you want to end the tour video.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was, I don't even know the guy's name. I couldn't work out with the fuck it was. I need to, again, let's know.
Right and let us know. Tell us we don't fuck all about Skatebourn. And we need to do our research and find out who the extra skates are. We listed the names of the skates at the start of the video.
So come on, give us a little bit of action. I read the credits at the start of the video and wrote them down. So we're only covering it because it's Chris Cole. So get over it.
Yeah, that's why people clicked in the first place, isn't it? No one's clicking to see Red Shoes guy. Yeah, they did. They clicked because the thumbnail of this particular podcast has Chris Cole's face on it as well.
And that's how it is. Yeah, don't worry about it. Anyway, let's go to a tour video. Obviously, tour videos don't carry the same sort of weight.
We can't be dishing out. You know, it's never going to get, I mean, it might be a five star, but this one definitely doesn't. You go for it. You go for the auto-frame.
Maybe a free. I reckon a free. Yeah, three spare. I know you're thinking too, because you're the harshest critic on the planet.
But you go to point eight, but yeah, we're not good. Yeah. Three spare for the fallen boys. Really enjoyable.
Put it out there and yeah, you know, started off again. You know, I mean, that's a nice thing for a brand that me and you kind of always liked. It's nice that they're going to kind of just re-ignite this and do it the right way. They're not, you know, they're kind of, they're keeping it real.
If they had a new squad, it might not have felt the same. But because they've got, you know, Chris Cole, who obviously was the face, I don't care what anyone says. And, you know, we ever do a Fallen All Stars. Maybe Jamie Thomas might not hit that one either.
But Chris Cole is the face of Fallen. And obviously Tommy Gardens, Billy Marks. Shane Billy Marks wasn't there. He was there, nobody marks clips in there, was there?
Yeah, that was weird. Yeah, it was just a shame. Just dawned on me. So you're definitely giving it to you now, isn't it?
Nobody marks it. I want to see a double kick for it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah. Three spare and really enjoyable, really enjoyable. So let's move on, mate. Let's go to Antonio Giro's part, his new part.
Not really in a Philly, sorry, it's a quarter's next part, isn't it? Which is, I suppose, it's probably an online blog, really. Just turned into a brand. Is that my right now, assessment?
It's kind of hard to kind of nail what exactly it is. It's not a board company. No, is it a kind of slap situation? Yeah.
Yeah, just branded a lot better. So this is lawn guy land. Don't really know why it's called that. It can really figure out.
Don't know much. Yeah, I can't figure it out. Can you figure it out, mate? Nah.
Yeah, well, let's not worry about it. No. So I'm going to put it out there. When I first saw this part, he's one of the, obviously, he's a frontside flipper.
So he always gets, you know, as soon as he pops up, I'm going to want to watch his videos. And big pop, great trick selection. I'm going to put it out this right away. I was a little bit disappointed in terms of kind of like the quality of the content that we're getting.
But on reassessment, I'm just going to put it out there, mate. I'm reassessment when I kind of just had a little flick through afterwards. I watched it all and then kind of have a little flick through to see some of the clips. Some of the caliber of the tricks were very, very high.
And also the whole vibe was kind of a raw kind of, this is what I do in the streets anyway. So it's not him. He wasn't showing off. He wasn't saying this is what I can do.
This is just a video people filming him and him putting some shit together. I'm pretty, you know, right now, it's just a man, right? It does have a weird feel to it. It just kind of starts for one is that I'll get worrying.
And yeah, the skating's good, but I feel like the production value is just sort of, it's just like two mates and they've put together a video. And yeah, there you go. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like there was one line that you just, you know, it gives you a nice good Mongo push.
There's like a nice, you kind of like gets an SSBS TS on this fucking, almost like a little kind of pentagon shaped monument, kind of like fountain type of obstacle. Just slaps on there. There's no business kind of just right into it and just gets away a bit. But so there was an edge to it that I did like, you know, it's obviously he's not hitting his big shit.
He's not going for it. I mean, I don't even know what's going on. Does numbers still exist? And does he still ride for them or, you know, what's the score of his board company and his sponsors and everything?
I have no idea. He's clearly still on night or he's just got enough night shoes to keep him going. Maybe it's a bit weird with lockdown and everything because for a Euro guy, he must feel a bit cut off from everyone else, at least all the Californian dudes ignoring everything and still just getting out there. I think he's Brazilian, isn't he?
Well, you know, whatever. Yeah, well, he's not Brazilian. No, he might be Brazilian. It looked more Euro than it did like Brazilian spots.
But I think you're right. But something that really got me in that part, that cameraman, he needs a new lens that fish I fucked. Is it? I didn't even notice that.
No, I did not notice that. It's all I could see to go back. Particularly that DIY spot, that lens is all kinds of fuck. There's smudges, there's scratches.
That may be the last thing they filmed because it's not so bad in other places, but there are still some scratches on it. It's like, OK, there's maybe this guy's not a pro film. Well, he's not. Oh, yeah, that lens is fucked.
Yeah, I'm just sorry. I've just got this lined up here now. Yeah, that lens is absolutely fucking the second line's worse. And the first has got missed on it.
It's like he's just holding a dirty paint at glass in front of the fish. Yeah, I mean, I will say, like, I'm just just fresh and myself up. He did have a tuck knee in there as well, mate, which is beautiful. Obviously street grabs and everything got a melon in there as well.
Street grabs. So you get some some points for that. Yeah, over the bin, isn't it? Yeah.
And the Melanie does over the bin. Yeah, Melon over the bin. Again, we need to get Chris Taylor on this fucking podcast and tell us what these grabs are because we are useless at any sort of transition commentary. But we can tell you that he's I think it's a sender, but one of the end of tricks is a famous New York spot that suits you as fucking hit.
The Supreme Boys of it obviously FA in that lot. It's kind of like a three stair. And it's got a ledge going out, which is kind of kind of like a set ledge. So it's almost like a seven-slag going up on this ledge.
And he gets the switch heel almost backs back. And then right. Land's kind of 45 and then carries on. But I do like it because it's kind of like, you know, they're out there.
They got the clip. Obviously they're just putting out there. They're just en to worried about it being bolts. He doesn't give a fuck.
This isn't his. He's never going to declare himself because he doesn't, he just doesn't give him, you know, doesn't care, which that's why I like him. You know, he's not getting his his dick out every moment. This is my clip.
So me doing some street grabs. Enjoy. I knew you were going to say almost. It's not quite, you can see what he was going for.
But yeah, the dip was, you know, I mean, here's me critiquing. I can't smith to save my life because I can, because I can dip and I can never get out of it. So I'll just go into the ground. There's no, you know, I can't actually get out of it.
So I can't, you know, he's doing a switch heel into one into a switch back, Smith. But it still wasn't one. So unfortunately for that, the points go down. I will say it was nice to see in some kind of like some good lines, obviously lines, you know, in turbo, we like lines.
So any sort of technical line with a kick for the back tail and, you know, just some sort of technical bullshit, which he gets on the kick for the back tail, picks me out in one of his lines early doors in this video as well. So yeah, super, super high tech shit going on. But yeah, let's, let's do turbo rate this mate. Yeah, go on, you go first this time.
I'm going to, I'm going to have to, it's two minutes. This is harsh in it. I'm going to have to give it to in the grand scheme of things for a video part. I really, you know, it's a favorite of mine, love his style.
But I just think substance wise, we just need, we need more. I think he needs to put himself on that pedestal. Having his, you know, with Tom Penny put this part out, not too sure. I would agree.
It's a two. There's not enough. It needs to be more polished. I get it.
It does work. That is just like, yeah, here's the part, whatever. But he's on more prestigious brands. He should put out a better product.
Yeah, but then again, mate, it's, I've just looked at it. It's had 20,000 views on YouTube. So he's probably doing all right. You know, we're probably out of, um, thumbs down on YouTube right now.
Got eight hundred and fifty four thumbs up, 11 thumbs down. I want to give it a thumbs down. I'm still giving it to you. Not too.
Thumbs up. Yeah, that's weird. Well, hopefully now the cameraman can buy a new lens with that ad money. But it is a little quote, sorry, a comment that I've just gone into comment section.
This is good. We should do this more because I think you probably get some gold, probably better content than listening to me and me and John. So, on YouTube, one week ago, he says, feel like I've been waiting for this guy to put out some proper parts for years and years. Being on numbers probably doesn't help.
But wait, that's still a thing. Hope to see more of him. And that had 29 thumbs up. But I mean, that is, yeah, I need to, this, this is that guy I'm going to, you are, if we could ever get you on tapest watch radio, you are brilliant.
Just sums up. We all love him. He needs a proper part. And yeah, that poor company that doesn't put anything out and go Mario, I know it costs probably skate fucking F.A.
boards anyway. What's going on? But yeah, thanks for that, Zach. You're a legend.
Should we move on mate? You're done with that? Yeah, happy with that. All right, let's go on to a little bit of feature that was close to my heart.
It's a little bit of content that I really like. On Thrasher.com, Neckface has made a comic, kind of like a little, I think it's going to be a series of comics. I think it's called Felpis Nine Lives. Or Phelps is basically run-ins with death.
So he's drawn some Neckface famous skateboard artists, graffiti, he does a bit of opening, he's just got some rough raw style. I love his style. He's really like it as well. It's just him paying respect to his mate who's died with death for a long time.
Obviously, Phelps isn't with us anymore. That's bullshit because Thrasher's probably going to go downhill because of it. And that's just a matter of fact. But this was just a really nice touch and just drawing in a really kind of raw, just drawing Phelps out.
It's raw and it just gets his character right. You know what I'm saying? I love the really pointy bulbous elbows because Phelps had that, that he's clearly sort of fallen on his elbows quite a few times. Yeah, definitely.
Yeah. I just like the way you kind of animated the pictures. Obviously, it's, I say comic. There's not like a, it's not like Frank Miller where he would draw animation in loads of different panels.
It's kind of telling the story with literally kind of like two pictures of a story. Which again, I really like that because it kind of, as long as the story is presented to you in the right sort of way, you can kind of, and we know, you know, we're in the in-club. So we do know the story of, you know, when Phelps goes down that silly hill in probably San Francisco. That's where what, you know, speed wobble, eat shit and then gets taken away in ambulance.
You know what I mean? It's only Phelps would, which is perfect that it did happen because he was, he was hauling ass down there. But the pictures trying to grab that, you know, I mean, there's like that one front on shot that you just, that he's drawn of him just hauling it. And then the next one's him in the air or face, face first into the concrete.
But there's kind of little steps just next to where it shows his teeth would have hit. And then his nose would have hit. Yeah, I, I, hopefully we're going to get more of this and it'd be nice if they actually, with comics, obviously, if you don't know me and John, I mean, John, I've got plenty of comics between us. It would be nice to own this, wouldn't it mate.
Yeah, a little paper back at this. You'd be very nice to own. Yeah, I'd buy that. That's really nice.
Yeah, let me just try and find out the other one. So just, have you got it in front of me? Yeah, I got it in front of me. What's the other picture that he's got?
So obviously he's got the one going down that hill. Is that like a dropping or something like that? Is that one of them? You've got sort of three stories.
So there's one where he's in like this crusty half-pipe sort of thing. And he just falls on his face and trots on his tongue. The picture of Cardio pulling out his tongue. So he doesn't choke on it and die.
Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's a phone background if I've ever seen it. The one of him getting hit my bus.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's flipping some other fucker off, leaving the bar or something. Just on his board pushing away, wearing his like Mark Johnson America's or whatever you want to call him. You know, with the big M on the side of him?
Like it's just fucking perfect. And then it's like a front-on-shot of the bus with a fucking bounce in the bus just on the screen, on the windscreen, forebroken, then the next shot is in with tire marks on his back. It's just really nice kind of simple layout of telling the story. But for me that's what a comic case.
You've just got two pictures to make with a little couple of captions at work. Why the fuck do you need to draw temperatures? Yeah, that's if anything, if you can do that with just two pictures. Surely that's better storytelling than sort of over producing it, right?
Yeah, I think so. If you can fill in the gaps and because obviously Phelps is, was, you know, always will be a massive character in skateboarding, you can see him doing this yet. You know, you kind of see him on this, kind of, you know, flipping someone off, leaving the bar, getting smashed in my bus, but can go down, going down the biggest hill of all time and going for it, pushing down it. Leaving how he'd want everyone else to leave in an ambulance.
You know, it's better to get a bail than to just make it down a hill. No one's going to remember the guy who got down a hill, are they? Like, who the fuck remembers that guy? A couple of things I want to ask you about, mate.
Clay Grinders part, what you saying about that? That is an unreal part. It was annoying that I wasn't on that one to talk about, but I love that part. That guy is living on skate free.
Yeah, it's not his mega, is it? Who's, who is that? It's the birdhouse dude. I think it might be a weed-mapped mega or something like that, or a rock star mega or something like that.
Okay. So he does something and then he goes up on the court pipe and then that trade flip over the driveway. No grab, just full extension, Spiderman style and catches it. It's fucking hell.
Yeah, I think he does like, it's almost like a backside 360, like over the mega ramp jump. Goes up and does make a fight for you or something, something like that, some sort of grab, and then trade flips that gap, which we're all kind of talking about a lot. We're just, the way he sends that back foot out makes you get that whip. It's full commitment.
He sideways. How do you even throw that? Because that has to be so far from your normal trade method. You can't even practice that.
You just have to do it. You can't do a couple of trade clips on flat, can you? Yeah, I'm on that. You're figuring out a job.
You know what I mean? You're the first network, you're figuring it out. It's like, yeah, I've never done this before. Yeah, just figure it out.
You're getting out. You're getting out. Do it on the night. Yeah, I just thought I'd need to ask you because that was obviously, we've had a lot of heavy hitting videos coming out.
That was a big deal. Here's another one. So we might even do a whole episode on this. But the rise and fall of fucking element skateboards.
What the fuck's going on over there? You've seen everyone leaving. And there was one more person that's left, which was one of their rippers. Grayson Fletcher.
Really? He's not with many more. He's got to... Mr.
Yeah, he's got to arbor skateboards. So they kind of make really nice wood cruisers, which I knew them for. They might have made boards more back in the day and everything. Yeah, he's moved.
I saw an ad saying welcome, Grayson Fletcher to arbor. I was like fuck. He's the transition king, right? He is killer.
Killer Transition. Yeah, killer transition motherfucker. So he's gone. So you're letting the likes of Mason Silver, Evan Smith, Nigel.
Grayson Fletcher. You're kind of putting the weight on on Jacko to be this next company carrier and I just don't think it's going to happen. What the fuck is happening? Yeah, I've got a funny feeling.
I don't know for sure. But Johnny Shifferliff, who obviously was the founder of element. Yeah, he started to do some bits with Bam, but heart supply, I think it's called. I don't know if they're doing it out of element or not, but he keeps saying it is out of element, is it?
It is out of element. Watch the bit of because Steve Rose got a podcast now and there's one with Bam and Bam was saying, yeah, it's done. Heart supply is done through element. Right.
Okay. I was just thinking that because basically, this is, sorry, Johnny Shifferliff kept saying he's going to make an announcement. And I thought he was going to say he's leaving and that's why everyone else is leaving because the true family, I mean, the fact that the founding father of element is going to leave. And that's what that's, and it would make sense to me if everyone did leave because that was the time he was leaving.
I mean, Nigel would leave if he was leaving because that is element. You would. Yeah. Well, maybe that is the case, but because he is the creator, I imagine at this point, his contracts have to be so, so tied up with all sorts of things.
They were bought by Billabong. Well, yeah. So pretty much on that side of the coin. So obviously, Billabong and Quicksilver were obviously the competing surf companies.
They are both the same company now. So they're owned by board riders. So they basically bought boats, hides of competition. So they have DC, they're an element.
You know, it's all kind of comes under that same umbrella. So it is kind of obviously getting a bit more corporate and a bit more just let's make some fucking proper money and let's get this brand as big as Nike. Because I'm sure that's probably their goal. They've seen what Vans has done.
Obviously, Vans is part of a big conglomerate now with the VF group. So, you know, own Dickies who own fucking loads of other companies as well. So it is happening across Cape Cod. I'm kind of hoping that's the reason why all these guys are jumping shit.
They've got to be saying something that we're not clearly, but maybe they're changing something internally behind the closed doors, as it were. That just doesn't feel right to them all. Because how, I don't understand how Nigel can leave. He's been on there for so long.
Yeah, exactly. Who the fuck is going to have Nigel? Yeah, I mean, what are your thoughts on that then? What's your speculation?
Because I think that the smart money is on surely he's going to do his own brand. Because where the fuck does he go? He doesn't go anywhere. I love Nigel skating and I think he's a great skateboarder, but there's something about him that just doesn't, I think he just doesn't sit right with people.
No, don't be letting wear a turbosports radio t-shirt, wouldn't you? Fucking too right. If I could write a check big enough, then yeah. Yeah, we'd sell out.
Of course you'd sell out. The guy that's one of the most street leagues ever. Yeah, you keep him on board. Yeah, it's a strange one.
For me, it's kind of, if Nigel wanted to make his own thing, wouldn't it be easier for him to have stayed with them? Yeah, and do it sort of through. Yeah, I mean, maybe the money isn't there. Maybe he knows that he could make, and he's probably right.
He could probably make more money. You've got to think about those revived motherfuckers who sell a lot of boards. I'm saying that, and that's a term of them. No, I'm personally, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, probably on a previous podcast, I've probably ripped some of a new one.
Some of the only ones. Yeah, some of the electronic episodes. Yeah, those are very entertaining, but very raw. Probably after a long day's work in a session at the pub.
So anyway, those motherfuckers, they make a lot of money, and who the fuck are they, right? Let's just put it out there. They make a lot of money, and who the fuck are they? No one knows who the fuck they are.