#55 | Show Your Work: Language, Masculinity, and the Future of Learning – w/ Dr. Mark Anthony Neal – Professor, Duke University episode artwork

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#55 | Show Your Work: Language, Masculinity, and the Future of Learning – w/ Dr. Mark Anthony Neal – Professor, Duke University

from unMASKing with Male Educators: Creating Emotionally Safe Classrooms & Schools for Male Students · host Ashanti Branch - Taking Off The Mask

What happens when “being professional” quietly turns into “being unseen”?In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Dr. Mark Anthony Neal, Black Studies scholar, writer, and professor at Duke University, joins Ashanti for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about masks we wear in education, what students have lost (and gained) in the post-pandemic classroom, and why freedom with language can be a pathway to belonging.In this episode, they cover:Growing up working class in the South Bronx: a father who wasn’t verbal, but spoke through Sunday breakfast, gospel, and the Mets“Stoicism as a mask”: how Black men learn to control emotion by pretending they don’t have anyWhy aging (and experience) shifted Dr. Neal’s teaching: from gravitas and control → toward visible humanity and frailtyThe hidden cost of the attacks on Black Studies: not always bans—sometimes student fear and “natural attrition”Building the classroom as a vernacular space: language as freedom, not a barrier to participationImposter syndrome and “talking right”: how fear of sounding smart silences students before they ever start“Students are like iPhone updates”: why educators have to recalibrate pedagogy every few yearsPost-pandemic social gaps: why mentoring feels harder for students who didn’t practice relationships outside their homesSave a Seat for Me: a love letter to Black fathers—and a new language for how Black men show up emotionally(0:01) Welcome + Dr. Mark Anthony Neal introduces himself (South Bronx roots, working-class parents, path from high school teaching to the academy)(1:45) Music as love language: Sunday breakfast, gospel, jazz/blues, and baseball as father-son connection(4:03) Upcoming book: Save a Seat for Me and why Black fatherhood is inseparable from American fatherhood(5:46) The “mask” framework: what we show vs. what we protect as educators(9:05) “Stoicism as control”: why many Black men learn to hide interiority (especially anger)(18:22) Teaching style shift: from “professorial gravitas” → toward conversational, accessible learning(20:24) Language & belonging: making the classroom a vernacular space (and why code-switching isn’t the classroom goal)(27:57) Representation reality: brilliant Black women teachers early on—but no Black male teacher until Dr. Neal became one(32:16) “Higher expectations”: why lowering the bar is one of the most common ways schools fail Black students(54:31) Closing invitation: share your mask anonymously at Million Mask MovementConnect with Dr. Mark Anthony NealBook: Save a Seat for Me (Simon & Schuster) — publishing August 4, 2026Pre-order: Amazon, Simon & Schuster, and (hopefully) independent Black bookstoresInstagram: @BookerBBBrownTwitter: @NewBlackManResources & Ways to EngageThe Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti BranchInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaksTwitter/X: https://twitter.com/BranchSpeaksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/Connect with Ever Forward ClubInstagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub⁠Facebook:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub⁠Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/everforwardclub⁠LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/⁠Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Clubhttps://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #BlackStudies #BlackMaleEducators #BlackFatherhood #Masculinity #EmotionalSafety #HigherEd #TeacherLife #StudentBelonging #Mentorship #CodeSwitching #AIInEducation #ShowYourWork

What happens when “being professional” quietly turns into “being unseen”?In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Dr. Mark Anthony Neal, Black Studies scholar, writer, and professor at Duke University, joins Ashanti for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about masks we wear in education, what students have lost (and gained) in the post-pandemic classroom, and why freedom with language can be a pathway to belonging.In this episode, they cover:Growing up working class in the South Bronx: a father who wasn’t verbal, but spoke through Sunday breakfast, gospel, and the Mets“Stoicism as a mask”: how Black men learn to control emotion by pretending they don’t have anyWhy aging (and experience) shifted Dr. Neal’s teaching: from gravitas and control → toward visible humanity and frailtyThe hidden cost of the attacks on Black Studies: not always bans—sometimes student fear and “natural attrition”Building the classroom as a vernacular space: language as freedom, not a barrier to participationImposter syndrome and “talking right”: how fear of sounding smart silences students before they ever start“Students are like iPhone updates”: why educators have to recalibrate pedagogy every few yearsPost-pandemic social gaps: why mentoring feels harder for students who didn’t practice relationships outside their homesSave a Seat for Me: a love letter to Black fathers—and a new language for how Black men show up emotionally(0:01) Welcome + Dr. Mark Anthony Neal introduces himself (South Bronx roots, working-class parents, path from high school teaching to the academy)(1:45) Music as love language: Sunday breakfast, gospel, jazz/blues, and baseball as father-son connection(4:03) Upcoming book: Save a Seat for Me and why Black fatherhood is inseparable from American fatherhood(5:46) The “mask” framework: what we show vs. what we protect as educators(9:05) “Stoicism as control”: why many Black men learn to hide interiority (especially anger)(18:22) Teaching style shift: from “professorial gravitas” → toward conversational, accessible learning(20:24) Language & belonging: making the classroom a vernacular space (and why code-switching isn’t the classroom goal)(27:57) Representation reality: brilliant Black women teachers early on—but no Black male teacher until Dr. Neal became one(32:16) “Higher expectations”: why lowering the bar is one of the most common ways schools fail Black students(54:31) Closing invitation: share your mask anonymously at Million Mask MovementConnect with Dr. Mark Anthony NealBook: Save a Seat for Me (Simon & Schuster) — publishing August 4, 2026Pre-order: Amazon, Simon & Schuster, and (hopefully) independent Black bookstoresInstagram: @BookerBBBrownTwitter: @NewBlackManResources & Ways to EngageThe Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti BranchInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaksTwitter/X: https://twitter.com/BranchSpeaksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/Connect with Ever Forward ClubInstagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub⁠Facebook:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub⁠Twitter:⁠ https://twitter.com/everforwardclub⁠LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/⁠Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Clubhttps://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #BlackStudies #BlackMaleEducators #BlackFatherhood #Masculinity #EmotionalSafety #HigherEd #TeacherLife #StudentBelonging #Mentorship #CodeSwitching #AIInEducation #ShowYourWork

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