#57 ゲスト：瀧澤中さん　自信のない人程ケチを付けるばかりでつまらない？与える側も受け取る側も心に持つべき“矜持”の話

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出演者：山崎祥之、立石裕明ゲスト：瀧澤中さん

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#57 ゲスト：瀧澤中さん　自信のない人程ケチを付けるばかりでつまらない？与える側も受け取る側も心に持つべき“矜持”の話

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