57 – Myths, Power and the Space to Dream (w Elizabeth Lesser)

Power is neutral, but how we use it determines whether it is positive or negative. The old story of power tells of dominance and control and sees it as a finite resource that must be hoarded. But, how might we rewrite the story of power to include more feminine values? Elizabeth Lesser is the author of several bestselling books, has given two popular TED talks, and is one of Oprah Winfrey’s Super Soul 100, a collection of a hundred leaders who are elevating humanity. She joins Natalie to explore the mythical stories that have defined us, how we might do power differently, and why we need to “dream a little” in schools post-pandemic. Show Notes: How words like “spiritual” can put us into a box we don’t belong in. (8:20) An introduction to Cassandra, the namesake behind the title of Elizabeth’s book, “Cassandra Speaks.” (11:05) The complexity and backlash when trying to amplify women’s stories in our current context. (19:30) Why it’s not about “getting” power, but about doing power differently. (24:40) How studying women under stress can expand our widely accepted understanding of “fight or flight”. (28:55) The cultural shift around power in culture and education. (35:35) How educators can heed Toni Morrison’s words and, “dream a little before you think” post-pandemic. (43:35) Do no harm but take no shit. (49:25) The purpose of education. (51:25) Check out Elizabeth’s newest book: “Cassandra Speaks: When Women are the Storytellers, the Human Story Changes” Follow Natalie: Twitter | Instagram Follow the Podcast: Twitter | Instagram Follow Elizabeth: Twitter | Instagram | Website Email: [email protected]