Hello and welcome to Retrospection where we take an old show of film and see a phasers shall be set to stun. Oh kill. In this episode we're taking a look at Stetric V, the final frontier from 1989. My name's Colin and please count it, not in front of the Klingons.
Oh those Klingons. And I'm Paul and each man hides a secret pain. Sure yours with me. Oh I'd rather not, that sounded creepy.
You wouldn't be able to work in Cybox role, because everyone would be like ugh, no. I couldn't stand a call. I think I could. You could if you spell it slightly differently.
I don't want you. The film's theirs. William Shatner is Captain Kirk. I feel weird doing a cast list for Stetric, because it's so obvious, but I'll do it.
There might be some people that don't know. First Kelly is Duttemakoy, Leonard Nimay as Spock, James Duhan as Scotty, Walter Kernig as Chekhov, Michelle Nichols as Yuhura, Josh Dukai as Sulu and David Wano as St John Talbot or Singin, and Lawrence Luckenbiel as Seibach. Directed by William Shatner from a screenplay by David Lowry, from a story by William Shatner and Herve Bennett. Oh and you can tell us a story by William Shatner when you give yourself all the best things to do doesn't it?
Music's by Jerry Goldsmith. And it's basically a lot of it is Stetric the Motion Picture isn't it? Yeah I wonder if that was just because it was cheaper. I would imagine so on this movie.
Yeah. Logic was a factor. Oh big factor. Not everyone was happy with the story.
Stetric created a gene-radabary object to the character's search for God in general. And particularly the idea of God was portrayed by Western religion. Although some people say that he was more upset because he tried to get God into the Stetric motion picture and they refused to. Yes isn't there, his original script for Stetric the Motion Picture had them looking for God.
It was actually called the God complex or something like that. Something like that anyway, it was about them searching for God in time travel and reverting JFK's assassination. That's a lot of stuff. It's classic Roddenbury in the fact that he was probably pissed that he didn't get to do his thing.
Yeah sounds like... Well Roddenbury, Kelly and Nimai gave their approval to the revised script. Paramount was concerned that the film got all the budget as written and ordered cuts. And it really made some major budget restrictions on this film.
Oh yeah, I mean especially in the third act. Because Shatner envisioned Angels and Demons at the film's climax and they were converted to Rock Monsters at the full squad with Anime from the Earth. Shatner wanted six of them but was fast to get just one. And they couldn't make it work, could they?
No they couldn't right? I think there's footage of it, test footage of it on the Blu-ray. It looks okay but I think his idea was to... At least I've got one if I creatively shoot it in different places.
Can I look like there's more than one? But I think Shatner says it ended up just looking like a guy in a suit. Yeah and he wasn't going in the suit at the end of the day. Paramount's rushed the film into production in late 1988 despite the writer's strike cutting into pre-production.
And then, jolly before beginning of location shooting, Hollywood Union truck drivers came to this, went on strike to protest pay cuts. And with deadlines looming the production search for non-union drivers. And then they were a word that Teamsters Mike Ritali by Sabotage in equipment are flying airplanes above the film to ruin the audio recartions. And then one of the production's camera trucks exploded in the studio parking lot.
Honestly the story of this film could make a movie in itself, probably a better movie than this. Yeah I agree, definitely. So they ended up having to have non-union drivers work in cover of darkness with a police esque art. Who would have thought making a Star Trek movie could have been such a...
You know, such an almost a Bond movie in a way. Yeah, Shakari is a word play on Sean Connery. Yeah because he was the original choice that they wanted to play Sibok wasn't he? Yes he was.
I wonder why he didn't do it. You think playing God be perfect for him? I can't imagine that Shatner would have been happy sharing the screen with Sean Connery. Talk about the Ego's.
Cool idea on screen. Yeah, like planets. Be like when we do this. There's only one Ego and it's yours.
Really? Alright. Do you... I mean we could talk for hours about the background to this film, but do you have anything else you want to add before we stand?
There's a few little things that I'm using. David Larry, the script writer suggested in a meeting that a hero should do an exotic dance. But he suggested it's just a joke. He was surprised when the producers immediately like the idea and stuck it in them.
We'll get to that. Yeah. You throw something like that just as a bit of a laugh. You're basically taking the piss, aren't you?
Oh yeah, let's do that. And then... There it is. There's a lot of effect shots taken from previous track movies as well, isn't there?
Yeah, there is. Yeah, because they couldn't get ILM to do the effects of this because there were so many special effects films coming out at the time and Budget Restrictions, so they got a very small company to do that and let's just say they are less than adequate. There's a couple of shots that are OK. Not many.
Are they the ones borrowed from other films? Well, besides that, yeah. Okay. Kim Control audition for the role of Klingon Vixis.
Oh, I'm glad she didn't get it actually because I think she's better in the statrix. Better role for her. And apparently she was Nicholas Mys first choice to play Savic in statrix too. So she finally got the chance to play Revolcan.
That would have been better because then at least she would have kept the role for two films. She would, but don't you think that the role of the role in statrix six is slightly more interesting than Savic? Yeah, I do. And I don't have a problem with Kirstie Ali in statrix too.
No, not at all. No. No. No.
George, can I originally turn the movie down because he didn't want to be directed by William Shanna? That makes sense. Oh, I don't know. I can't imagine why.
That's just great friends. They are. Especially if you watch the press conference. Okay, so you saw the press conference, right?
It is a thing unto itself, this press conference. So half Bennett comes out. Does a terrible gag? That's right.
About the music stats and he's like, no, not now. Nobody laughs. But he seems to think it's hilarious because he does this big grin and he's smiling. And then what's the deal when he gets his credit card out and goes, do you know who I am?
And then shows everybody his credit card. I don't know. I don't know. What's that in?
He's saying he's saying what was going on? I don't know. I don't know what's going on in this press conference at all. Okay.
Of course it's on the set and there's a curtain behind him separating everybody. And then have does some speech with a few jokes that no one's laughing. And then introduces William Shatner who can't find his way through the curtain. I don't know whether he really can't find his way through the curtain or it's a terrible gag.
I thought it seemed like a terrible gag. It seemed like something that amused him at the time. Okay, so he comes through and then he starts talking about the film but says very little because even though it's a press conference for some reason the story is top secret. Yeah, I don't get that.
He then says like, I'm going to introduce you to crew. It says pull back the curtain, which nobody does. But then he says to the woman who's standing to the right in a uniform pull back curtain. And she points to the other side because clearly she's not in control of curtain and it eventually opens to reveal the bridge crew.
Was none of this rehearsed. I don't know. So then William Shatner's got a microphone and he's going to introduce Leonard Nimai, James Dewey, and Judge Dookai, Walter Koenig, you know everybody. But for some reason he doesn't give him any time to respond.
They get one line each, don't they? And he takes the microphone away from them before they finish the line. The worst one he says like this is so and so blah blah blah blah. But when he gets to Walter Koenig, he doesn't introduce him.
He says, this is the guy who plays checkup. Walter Koenig looks at him and then says his name like Walter Koenig, you know. He says his name. And then that's talking in Russian.
But at this point William Shatner's bubbered off with the microphone. Shatner does not give a shit about any of these people. What was it with the show Nichols? Because she says like, she starts to say something and then she's going to say Captain.
It's almost like she doesn't want to say it. You know that originally this was supposed to be the idea was for them to do it all in character and take questions in character. So Shatner would be Shatner. He would be Captain Kirk.
But then they thought we can't control this. So we better just let them be who they are. So I think the dream that that still there because doesn't do for his Kelly and London in my have lines in character. Well London in my says this is not logical.
Yeah and doesn't do for his Kelly refer to William Shatner as Jim. Yeah I think so. Yeah. Let's just follow the show and her calls is like she says something and then she's like Captain.
He's already gone. The right for him. He's gone to the next person anyway. You know he wouldn't surprise me though if William Shatner at that point even all those years later still didn't know who Walter Koenig is.
Yeah probably he's like this is this guy I've seen the back of him quite a lot. I don't recognize him from behind. He's got to work her piece of the mind. Yeah some of them leave because is Nishan Nicole's ill or something because he makes a joke about someone going to sickbay.
Yeah he says that a couple of the principal actors need to go because it's a work day for them. Right. It's a coincidence that it happens to be both D for his Kelly and London and Nimoy. I find that's quite strange that they don't get sick around.
So and then I think Nishan Nichols gets to go because apparently she's not well. Right. And the rest of them have to sort of like stick around in the background. Not only while William Shatner takes questions.
Yeah the lame questions because you know it's a press conference but also he's not telling him anything anyway because for some reason the story is secret. Even though it doesn't he say that a week later it's going to be out there or something. Yeah and then he's like well how will somebody ask him like why did it take you so long to direct a film? It's like because nobody had let me.
Although he does point out that he's not the first time he's directed that he's done TV. Yeah and theatre. Yeah and theatre yes. It's not the same.
Don't you get the impression that inside he's seen that somebody's questions but he's just holding it in because he's playing the game. Because he's just professional. You know but at the end of the day I guess it's just a very weird experience and it's embarrassing and I actually felt embarrassed watching it even though it occurred a lot of years ago. Yeah you're embarrassed about something 30 years ago.
I feel you stop getting hot. Yeah it's like I gotta turn this off but no I want to keep watching it because it can't get any. Oh yeah it is going to get worse. Okay.
If anyone wants to watch this it's on YouTube so check it out. It is amazing. And it's also an extra on the Blu-ray. You can do a whole podcast on that one press conference.
This really got really good reviews didn't it? Did it? I'm going to do that again right? No no I probably should know that one.
That's one of those pieces of information I should know but did it get good reviews? I got a couple of good reviews to the point where Shatner read these reviews and thought oh we're on to a winner here. But then later he admitted that the movie almost ended the cinematic franchise of Star Trek. Yeah I mean it didn't do very well but it was a tough year for films.
It was they were up against Ghostbusters 2, Batman, Indiana Jones and Oscar Sade, Lethal Weapon 2. That's a good year right? That is a good year for movies isn't it? Yeah it is.
To the point where this film didn't get released on the cinema in a lot of countries it came straight to video apparently. Although I just see on the cinema here twice. Was the second time just to make sure you'd seen what you really thought you'd seen? It was a little bit of that.
Yeah. Okay. Here we go, Miss something. Shatner to the stage, Little Pest is apparently to let him do a special edition in the same vein as the motion picture.
To finish the movie with effects and the way he wanted it to be. Yeah I think that's in the audio commentary that he does with his daughter on the Blu-ray. That's right yeah. I'd like to see that.
I would I don't see it happening. There's a lot of fan edits out there isn't there of this movie that purport to make it better than the original cut. I haven't seen any of those. I think I'll check those out.
There's one in particular I mentioned Leia because it pretends to a certain shot in the movie but yeah you should check them out. Some of them are quite good. Oh okay. They will do.
And the other thing that I was going to say is that this is the only track movie to ever win the worst picture golden raspberry award. Oh I generally stat-trick films are not rubbish. They're generally good. They vary in quality between themselves but they're not usually rubbish films.
I don't prescribe to this odd and even view of the track movies. Well we like stat-trick the motion picture so that theory is ruined from the beginning for us. Exactly yeah. Shall we listen to the trailer?
Yeah it's just about to suggest that very thing. From a relaxing vacation on earth. Great use captain. I do not think you realize the gravity of your situation.
To the most perilous reaches of space. Only one crew dared travel where no man has ever gone before. We'll need all the power of the Master Mr. On a desolate planet.
A renegade Vulcan seeks ultimate knowledge. To find us. We'll make a starship. And he will stop at nothing.
To get it. I don't think I'm having a take over the Enterprise. You look like you've just seen a ghost. Perhaps I have Captain.
Our destination is the planet chakari. The heat of the galaxy can't be reached. If you ask me and you haven't I think this is a terrible idea we're bound to bump into the cling arms. And on course to Kirk.
He's a fanatic to the fort. You know we'll never make it through the Great Barrier. I say the danger is an illusion. To the crew he's a mystic to be followed.
The Cybok has simply put us in touch with feelings that we've always been. I have to get back to the Transporter. To spark the past he must confront. Shoot him!
You know I'm right. Spot my only concern is getting the ship back. You're either with me or you're not. Put him in the brig with Captain Kirk.
I'm a prisoner on my own ship. Oh, a jail blick when you see one. Let us discard your amazing. I don't love an amazing opponent.
I know this ship like the back of my hand. Give her just a channel. Open. The hostile force has taken control of our vessel.
Put us on a direct course with a great barrier. Understood Enterprise. We are dispatching a rescue ship immediately. Third of three bearing 105 and mark two.
Let me do something. Mr. Sullivan, forehead, thanks for the power to work through. Work, speed, and now.
The greatest enterprise of all is adventure. Star Trek V, the final frontier. Well that tells you everything you need to know doesn't it? Well that tells you a lot about the comedy in the film.
Oh it's all there. I think every line is there. Every visual gag is in there. It's an interesting trailer.
There's also a lot of shops from previous Trek movies as well. Yes. I think that was probably because most of the effects weren't finished. Or they just didn't want people to see what the effects looked like.
Yeah maybe. That would make sense. Oh well, we're going to go see what those effects look like right now. So we open with the Paramount logo.
We have quite a foreboding sound. Howling and wind. We fade to white and then to a desert. Text says, Nimbus 3 in the neutral zone, the planet of galactic peace.
It doesn't look like a place you want to visit, right? Oh my god does it look like this. Yeah. Oh we see in slow motion a ride on a horse approaching, hazy in the shimmering heat.
A disfigured man. Let's call him a Marada. Oh what? A Marada.
Oh right. Okay. He's in tattered robes and he's manually drilling into the desert with an arger. He's the Marada with an arger.
Unlike when I was going to call it which was Phil with the drill. Oh Phil with the drill. I like that. Oh I have to change everything now.
Perhaps Phil is looking for water. He should be on the coal sheet you feel with the drill. So he's digging for water. I guess so.
That's my experience. He's very unclear. He's just digging holes into the desert. Maybe he's just likes drilling holes.
Oh he says he's got a field of holes. It's not even a field though is it? Can you have a field if there's no grass? It's just sand.
You know what you're thinking about it? Don't think about it. Oh yeah. Sorry.
Well you know perhaps the Marada are Phil as we're now calling him. He's Phil. He's looking for water because this is a dusty desolate wasteland. In the distance he sees a horse rider approaching and he drops his tool to pick up a weapon.
Now look at this. It's very mad max right? It's it's got yellows and it's quite good right? I'm happy at this point.
He's saying that you're trying to convince me. He's good. He's going right. He's good.
He's good right? Yeah, yeah. I'm happy. Yes.
The sound does not consist of music. It's just weird growls and rods. That's shot now. We're on the camera.
Just growls and a raw rod. It must have been lunch time. Phil loads his weapon and the figure approaches him. This man removes his mask and says I thought weapons were banned on this planet and you wouldn't kill me for a piece of ground full of empty holes.
It's all I have. So he says, Phil. Which technically isn't true because he has an auger and a gun so he's already lying. lying.
Don't trust Phil. That's true. Yeah. My name's Phil.
Yeah. Never trust a Phil. Why? You got a past experience of Phil's?
Oh, don't go there. But Phil's been there. Phil's been there. What are you trying to say?
He's not been anywhere? No. Is that the problem? Is that why you don't trust this?
No. It wouldn't do what you wanted to do. That what it is. Shut up.
No. You know, Shanna, what is it like to have a horse to be a unicorn? But some Gene Rumbry felt that he was a little too fantasy like, not sci-fi enough. Oh, right.
Although if you look closely, the space horse still has a subdued horn. What's a subdued horn? He's got a little... He's got a little horn on his head.
Oh, that was like... El Darnot. When you watch one of those videos and then a guy comes in, he suddenly got a subdued horn. No, I don't know what you mean.
So the man on the horse climbs off his steed and approaches. Now, there's something about him. Something hypnotic. As he talks to the guy we hear the sound of a hurt beat, increasing in volume.
Phil starts to break down. The man asks him to show his pain with him and gain strength, Phil. So that's the cry and the guy holds his head to him. Where did you get this power?
Oh, the power was within you, he replies. Just a second. What is Sci-box power? He's able for people to release the pain and face the life's darkness and be able to get over it and feel joy from the future that life could bring them.
Come on, you thought you were way through that one, didn't you? Punching left and right with hooks and uppercuts verbally. I said you were right, I'll script that, didn't I? I know where you were.
All right. Okay, well, that's as good an explatious as any. Yeah, it's worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does.
Okay. Phil says, and I think we're the only people who are calling this guy Phil for the entire history of this film. Let's point that out. Phil is watching this film and looking for Phil.
He's not there. In 20 years telling, they'll be talking about Star Trek 5 and they'll be referring to this guy as Phil. Trust me. They'll just call it Star Trek Phil.
Phil says it's like a weight has been lifted from my heart. How can I repay you? By Johnny my quest, for seeking that's which man has always sought. The eternal answer.
Why is Mrs Brown's boy so popular? Fuck knows. That's the answer to that one. I need a starship.
Constantly, I always need a starship. Phil says there are no staaships on the numbers three. Look around mates, full of desert, wind, and shit. No staaships.
He doesn't say that. He might as well, but he might as well. They'll have to bring one here. He pulls back his hood to reveal that he's a Vulcan and then he throws his head back and laughs.
This is disquieting for two reasons. One, he's a Vulcan and they don't laugh because they don't show emotion. And two, nobody said anything funny. Quite frankly, Paul is the kind of listener we need.
If there's any sign box like that, you know, tune in. Yeah, yeah. With a podcast. Who did?
To do our podcast work. No, not really. What are you for the 60s? But just your wireless?
You've got your wireless. You tune in? Oh yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, it is, Paul.
Quite right. We're at internet radio, aren't we? Isn't that what we are? Yeah, yeah.
I'm just going to carry on. You're just living around the world. We've got two some simple credits. Of all the places to cut budget, you want to think the credits would really cost that much.
But clearly, it was a way of doing it, right? But the way that that Star Trek 5 logo shakily moves into the center of the screen is shocking, really. Yeah, it's like you would hear William Shatner go to a distance. It's like someone's hand held actually physically moving it into the screen with a shaky hand.
It's a graphic. How is it shaking? I don't get it. Why is it drunk?
The drunk graphic. We've all been there. Look at the worst kind of graphics. Well, this music is great, though, isn't it?
This is Jerry Goldsmith's score. Yeah, it was great the first time I heard it. You know, I watch this with my wife and she told me, why are they using the theme tune to Star Trek next generation? And you're like, oh, it's the theme tune to Star Trek, the motion picture, speed it up.
Something like that. Yes. We open on your 17 national park, Earth, Star Date 845, 0.1. A figure is rock climbing.
Credits continuously see the man baved in light, continuing to climb freestyle along the rock face. We close up on him and we see there's Captain Kirk. Now, is there a spot that William Shatner is less physically suited for than rock climbing? I mean, at this point in his life, he's not that he's not well, he's kind of chunky monkey, isn't he?
He's not someone that needs to be defying gravity at this point. No, but you've got to say that only William Shatner would come up with the idea that his character should free climb a mountain. Yeah. Even though apparently William Shatner is afraid of heights.
Oh, really? He is. He's terribly afraid of heights, apparently. So he's conquering his fear via the medium of Star Trek.
Proud of him. We see a cab fire. Dr. McCow is watching Fruber Knight-Gullers.
He seems to be some distance away because he's looking straight at us, so I'll burn that in mind. Okay. And he's complaining about being a nervous wreck while he's watching Kirk. Kirk, hi above, so there's a few Spock appears.
This conversation was actually filmed in a car park, wasn't it? Yes, because they'd already, they'd film stuff as well and they looked at a dailies and they turned out that there was a weird tree that made everything look like it was really low down and the sunlight didn't work, so that's a reshoot everything anyway. But apparently in a couple of the shots where they're talking, you can actually see the peak of the mountain that he's climbing in the background. Oh, really?
They didn't think that one through, did they? Well, Spock tells Kirk he's not going to break any climbing records. Spock is using jet boots and hobbers alongside Kirk. He tells Kirk that he doesn't think he realises the gravity of his situation.
Good line. Yeah, it is. Kirk knocks his rocks off. He's not the first time for Kirk, though, is it?
No, no, he actually knocks him rocks off. And then he slips and he falls, screaming. I'm just going to say this is some great green screen work here, I think, where they're falling. Not even sure it's green screen, it's like yellow screen, it's terrible.
I like the one handy Superman that Spock does as well. Oh, yeah, because he's like he's lying down. Yes, maybe that helps. Maybe that's how you operate the jet boots.
Maybe, maybe, yeah. Yeah, because Spock uses a jet boots to speed down it and grabs Kirk just before he splats on the ground. He does. Hi Bones.
Mind if we drop him for dinner, say Kirk, who, remember, he's saying this to McCoy, who isn't there because remember, McCoy is watching him through binoculars from a distance away. Who just thought a man of eight of his age could move so fast? Okay, sorry, I'm falling. He's in shape.
Got it. Got it. That works out for me. Okay.
Back on number three, we see a bear like the one from a certain other franchise we won't mention. Never. There's a woman, Tiger, creature with three breasts dancing. Hey, I'd hang out in a bear with a three-breasted cat woman.
Could you? Oh, absolutely. And there's a billiard table filled with water, for some reason. It's water pool.
You never played water pool before? No, intentionally. Well, when you have an accident. Yeah, the pub.
Yeah, I've been there. I'll explain why the turkey was always covered in water, walked into it. I can't deny it. I can't confirm or deny that at all.
I said that weird liquid on the floor, strange. It was weird. You knew what it was. You just tried not to think about it.
Yeah, as I said, you know what, you don't think about it. Don't think about it. Okay. A cloaked figure enters the bear.
The bear tends to signal to the person to go in the back. The figure is a woman, a Romulan, called Caitlyn Doar. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
Mm-hmm. He's right. David Warner's reaction in a minute is a bit like that. She enters a room and finds Cinjyn Talbot, a human.
Card, a Klingon. And remember, Cinjyn is Stringfellowhark's lost brother. Oh, sorry. No, he's a Federation representative for Nimbus.
All right. That's right. That's right. Yeah.
Wrong show. He's a deep puller. Yeah. And Card is a Klingon version of that.
He's also a representative for... So they're kind of like the losers of each organization that they've been shipped off to this place, haven't they? I don't know whether it's in the script or whether David Wanda went for it, but he's playing it like some kind of British colonial, stuck in some country he doesn't want to be in. Like, you would think like, kind of, I'm thinking like a more ragged Alec Guinness in one of those films, you know, a man in Havana kind of thing.
Absolutely. Yeah. I can see that completely. Yeah.
He's all greasy and just... Yeah. It doesn't really care. It doesn't want to be just drinking.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Perfect role for you. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I could be cheap playing the role. Actually, I think David Wanda spent too much time on his role than what the actual part required. Did you read that apparently they spent a lot of money working on a self-lighting cigarette for him that they never used? No, I didn't seriously.
Seriously. They spent a ton of money developing this self-lighting futuristic cigarette, which actually worked and they got it working, but then they were actually used in any shot. Well, A, why did they do that? B, why didn't they use it?
Oh, there's a lot of instances in this film that are very like that. Like the three-breasted catwoman, they developed makeup that wouldn't run in water, but it doesn't make any difference because you don't really see her when he throws her in the little cooking anyway. Yeah. I want it to have been more interesting if you were just smoking old-style cigarettes.
Absolutely. Yeah. Which is kind of what you get the impression he's doing anyway. Yeah.
Yeah. Outside is Vulcan, who we saw earlier, but now we know his name is called Seibach, and he's managed to build up a band of armed followers and he is approaching the city with them. It's not a big invasion force, is it? About 12 people, isn't it?
It's about 12 people and they're shuffling to the city in what Chantner referred to as Teibach shuffle because apparently the temperature was so hot and everyone was so dehydrated that they were so tired and they couldn't move properly. Yeah, it looks that way. And did you read that to try and make it look like there were more people that he would get people to stand in different places and then shoot them in a particular way? He would shoot them?
That's a good one. Yeah. Wow. Who knew that?
Back in the bar, the Romulan bar says that 20 years ago the three governments agreed to develop the planet together. Sinjin, and this is exposition time, says that the people they brought there were the dregs of humanity and they took to fighting amongst themselves. They forbade weapons, but they just fashioned their own. Der says, well, it looks like I've arrived in time.
In time for what? Yeah, he's never clear, is it? No. What were you planning on doing?
I mean, she thinks she's locked out. Yeah, but she's at the Earth's end of the universe. And she's in this movie. Yeah.
Suddenly, a siren goes off because Cybux people are attacking the city. Sinjin tries to send an emergency signal. COD goes for booze. Paul?
Are you a Klingon? Compla. You are a new one on the left. But Sinjin is stopped.
Cybux steps in and tells them they are prisoners. Sinjin says they are already prisoners on this worthless rock. What possible value could we be to you? Cybux says that this is the only place that has the free of you.
Der tells them that their governments will stop at nothing to free them. Cybux replies, that's what I'm counting on. And we got to a shuttle approaching a stair base and we hear Scotty criticizing the new enterprise. As we see the staship in space now.
Let's see what she's got to the captain. And then we find out, didn't we? What? Is he well?
How can he? He's well snazzy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Let's see what she's got to the captain. He's breathing well, she's not a Scotty. It's not worse than he is. Let's see what she's got to the captain.
And then we found out, didn't we? He's under a console trying to repair it. You hear her steps out of a turbo lift onto the bridge. Scotty says that he thought she was on shore leave.
Apparently they were supposed to go together, but Scotty can't leave the ship in this condition. Wait, when did this Scotty and her Earth come to be a thing? I don't know, I have this as a note as well. Okay.
Was there ever this relationship in any previous film on the TV series? No, right? Not that I recall. No.
No, so it suddenly just appeared from nowhere. I think so. It's almost like it's the only characters they could think to get together. And actually check off in the suit though.
That's true. You could do that, I suppose. You hear I knew that's what he would say in Handsome Dinner, which looks like a bag of crisps. And quite frankly, looking at Scotty, crisps are the last thing he should be eating.
He looked disappointed, he doesn't get both bags, to be honest. It's not much for me. Where are you going? Come back.
Red alert, Sango's off, but it's a faulty sound. But Scotty tells him to turn it off, turns out that the red alert is real. The Enterprise is needed. Scotty is astounded.
The Enterprise isn't in working condition, there's only a skeleton crew about, but Stafflete tells him to recall key members of the crew. We cut to Sulu and check off, who are lost. They went over this dumb, were they, back in the show or any of the other movies? I think it says a lot about the way that Shat and the Saw, the roles of the supporting cast in this movie.
All the characters are really idiots in this film for some reason. Well, they're all there to be foils for Captain Kirk, can't they? In other ways, I think. You hear of Carl's Sulu and check off?
They have to be collected from their pre-arranged location. But check off Telsulu, not to tell him to last until he'll never live it down. They pretend they're in a storm and ask for directions. You hear her say, those can't say, it's blue skies and sunny.
Look, says check off, the sun's come out, it's a miracle. Yeah, yeah. Laughing, you hear her say, that secret is safe at Earth, and sends her shuttle to pick them up. And we cut to McCoy, banging it in a bell as he, Spock and Kirk are sitting around a campfire, and McCoy, as Kirk's beans.
Spock samples the beans. There's an interesting taste that he can't identify. McCoy says, it's a secret sauce. And no, Paul.
It's not the same secret sauce you use at that time. How do you know about that? Oh, it's been reported. Kirk asks, so some of that sauce and McCoy hands over a bottle.
The secret sauce is whiskey. Now, if you, Paul, the beans will be the secret, Pat. You know what, I was thinking about bourbon and beans. That's not a combination that will work for you, is it?
Oh, no. I mean, Kirk says bourbon and beans are an explosive combination. He's not wrong. Yeah, that's what they're mildly, isn't it?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, nuclear. You have to get any toilet. I'll do a bathroom.
I'll do a apartment. Yeah. I'll do a city. There's some bands up between Spock and McCoy.
McCoy gets serious and says that human life is too precious to waste on crazy stunts. Maybe it didn't crush that much of mine of you, Kirk. You should have been killed back there. Kirk says it did cross his mind.
But even as he fell, he knew he wouldn't die. Really? Well, that's funny because you appear to be screaming quite loudly while you were falling. Well, you know, human nature's going to kick in, isn't it?
All right. So he's like, are you screaming? Yeah, because I think I'm going to die. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I suppose even though he thinks he's not going to die, then he's still going to be screaming. Yeah. You're going to rush it out, yeah. 100 miles an hour.
You're going to scream, isn't it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't buy it.
This is one of the scenes in the movie which are very reminiscent of the original series. You know, it's the three main characters bantering with each other. It's only very well done. Yeah, but I think it plays this up too much in the film.
You do? Yeah, I think so. I think like if this was an episode of a TV show where it was about this, then that's fine. But this is not an episode of a TV show.
This is a movie. Yeah, I can see that and we'll talk about that at the end. McCoy says that he indicated Spock was the only one that was immortal and this is a reference to Stetric III. Kirk explains what he means, that he knew because the two of them were with him.
He always knew he'd die alone. McCoy says he called Val Haller and had them reserve a room for him. McCoy points out that they spend all the time getting on each other's nerves in a spaceship and then when they have some free time they spend it together, other people have families. Kirk says other people, not them.
Although it seems none of the enterprise likes to spend time with their families. No, they'd rather be off John's in a round space, wouldn't they? Well, not like Zulu and Chek are together. One of what?
You hear us on the enterprise? God, he's on the enterprise. None of them are spending time with families. But somehow we find out that in a couple of movies, I think it's Sertric Generations that Zulu found time to have a kid.
Wow, didn't remember that. Nice recall. Yeah, because doesn't Kirk mention how did he find time to have a family? Again, do you know when the last time I watched Generations was?
When it came out? Probably. Yeah. All right.