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EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 29 MIN

570: The Cloward-Piven Strategy: The weaponization of chaos

from Beer and Conversation with Pigweed and Crowhill · host Pigweed and Crowhill

The boys drink and review a Kolsch from Sky Blue Brewing, then discuss the influence of an old sociology paper by Cloward and Piven. These 60s-era "intellectuals" lamented that not enough eligible people had signed up for welfare benefits. They proposed overwhelming the welfare system by deploying an army of activists and troublemakers to (1) get more people to sign up for benefits, and (2) riot, demonstrate, protest, and generally cause trouble. The goal was not to get more wealth to the poor, but to cause the welfare system to fail, create a crisis, and force the federal government to institute a new system. Their proposed "solution" was called "guaranteed minimum income," which is an idea so stupid you have to be an intellectual to believe in it. Their overall proposal seems to define the basic playbook of the left, which is to cause disorder and crisis, destroy the current system, and replace it with socialism. Cloward and Piven believed the only way for poor people to get their way is to riot, set fires, and cause trouble. Incremental change is not enough. There has to be a revolution. Join us for a deep dive into this fascinating topic. 📬 Send us your thoughts: [email protected] 🌐 More episodes: pigweedandcrowhill.com👍 Like, subscribe, and tell a friend

The boys drink and review a Kolsch from Sky Blue Brewing, then discuss the influence of an old sociology paper by Cloward and Piven. These 60s-era "intellectuals" lamented that not enough eligible people had signed up for welfare benefits. They proposed overwhelming the welfare system by deploying an army of activists and troublemakers to (1) get more people to sign up for benefits, and (2) riot, demonstrate, protest, and generally cause trouble. The goal was not to get more wealth to the poor, but to cause the welfare system to fail, create a crisis, and force the federal government to institute a new system. Their proposed "solution" was called "guaranteed minimum income," which is an idea so stupid you have to be an intellectual to believe in it. Their overall proposal seems to define the basic playbook of the left, which is to cause disorder and crisis, destroy the current system, and replace it with socialism. Cloward and Piven believed the only way for poor people to get their way is to riot, set fires, and cause trouble. Incremental change is not enough. There has to be a revolution. Join us for a deep dive into this fascinating topic. 📬 Send us your thoughts: [email protected] 🌐 More episodes: pigweedandcrowhill.com👍 Like, subscribe, and tell a friend

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