#60: Can Chichester Become A Laboratory For The Future?

The Sussex And The City Podcast – Episode #58 Can Chichester Become A Laboratory For The Future? Host: Richard Freeman Guest: Dr Catja de Haas – architect, urbanist and co-founder of Chichester Laboratory 🔍 Episode summary Sussex is being encouraged to think bigger. One strategic authority. Sussex-wide approaches to growth, housing, transport and prosperity. Decisions that previously sat within individual councils will increasingly need to make sense across a region stretching from Chichester to Hastings. But where does that leave the small, local and experimental? Dr Catja de Haas thinks Chichester might provide part of the answer. An architect and urbanist who grew up near Amsterdam, studied in Delft and Barcelona, worked in Japan and later studied housing and urbanism in London, Catja has spent much of her career thinking about places facing change: particularly smaller coastal cities trying to grow without losing what makes them distinctive. She is now one of the people behind Chichester Laboratory, an experiment in bringing architects, planners, academics, universities, residents, campaigners and other local voices together around real problems facing the city. And the problems can be very specific. What should happen to old fibreglass boats? How could polluted waterways be tackled? What would make cycling genuinely viable? Could underused land within the city provide better housing? How do you build new homes without creating developments where everyone remains dependent on a car? Rather than starting with another grand strategy, Chichester Laboratory starts with the problem and tries to connect it with people who might be able to do something about it. Catja describes it almost as a dating platform for civic problem-solving: a local issue might find a university researcher, an architect, a community group or a professional with relevant expertise, with the Laboratory helping an idea move towards research, testing and eventually a real project. That also leads Catja to an interesting challenge to conventional thinking about community engagement. Listening to people matters, but communities cannot be expected to arrive with all the answers. Sometimes good engagement also means bringing expertise into the room, showing people what has worked elsewhere and helping them visualise possibilities they may never previously have encountered. As Catja puts it: "You don't know what you don't know." Her native Netherlands provides an obvious example. Amsterdam's cycling culture can appear inevitable from the outside, but it was created through political choices and changes that were themselves contested. Showing how another place made that transition can expand the range of things a community believes might be possible. And this is where a relatively small experiment in Chichester connects with the much bigger Sussex devolution story. A strategic authority needs to operate at scale. But Chichester has its own geography, economy, history and problems. Catja's argument is that strong local capacity to research, experiment and organise can sit alongside regional scale – generating ideas and evidence that can then feed upwards and, where something works, potentially be replicated elsewhere. Her ambition is for Chichester to become a small pioneering city; somewhere that tests better approaches to housing, water pollution, climate adaptation, transport and sustainable urban life, while retaining the character that makes it Chichester. Perhaps Sussex doesn't need to choose between thinking bigger and thinking smaller. --- This episode is brought to you in partnership with the NatWest Accelerator Hub at the University of Brighton. Designed particularly for ambitious founders and early-stage businesses, including those with four or fewer employees, the Hub provides free workshops, expert coaching and practical support around finance, sales, funding and leadership, alongside a dedicated app and business community. 🎯 In this episode Why Catja de Haas chose to make the Chichester area her home What Chichester can learn from cities in the Netherlands and elsewhere Why smaller cities can be useful places for experimentation What the Chichester Laboratory actually is Bringing academics, professionals and communities together around real problems The Laboratory's research festivals How universities could become more directly involved in solving local challenges Why old fibreglass boats have become an urban research question The potential for researchers-in-residence, hackathons and design charrettes Why Catja wants the Laboratory to remain small and lightweight Moving from research and conversation into real developments Housing as the issue that connects almost everything else Why apparently sustainable housing can still create unsustainable places Infill, density and alternatives to car-dependent development Water pollution and Chichester's environmental challenges What Amsterdam's cycling history can teach Sussex Why community engagement needs expertise as well as listening How local experimentation could influence Sussex-wide plans Catja's ambition for Chichester to become a model sustainable city Chichester as an urban laboratory Catja doesn't envisage the Chichester Laboratory becoming another large institution with its own bureaucracy. She describes something deliberately light, more like a platform that connects problems, people, research and potential solutions. The longer-term ambition includes a database of research about Chichester, relationships with UK and international universities, researchers-in-residence and focused charrettes or hackathons around particular urban problems. Success ultimately means ideas becoming projects rather than accumulating as reports. Housing connects almost everything For Catja, housing is perhaps Chichester's most important challenge because it intersects with so many others. A house can be highly insulated, fitted with solar panels and technically efficient while still being part of an unsustainable development if its location means every resident needs a car. She is interested instead in questions of density, infill, connectivity and how Chichester can provide good housing within a compact city – including homes for people such as hospital workers and teachers. Communities shouldn't have to invent every solution themselves Community engagement is vital, but Catja questions the assumption that lived experience means residents should also be expected to know every possible solution. People know their place and their experiences. Architects, researchers and specialists may know what has been tried elsewhere. Bringing those forms of knowledge together can be considerably more productive than repeatedly asking a community what it wants without expanding the possibilities available to it. "You don't know what you don't know" Cycling provides Katja's clearest example. The Netherlands is now so closely associated with cycling that it can seem culturally inevitable. But Katja remembers a process of change in which reducing the dominance of cars was itself controversial. For Chichester, international examples can therefore do more than provide technical answers. They can demonstrate that apparently unrealistic change has happened elsewhere – and help shift expectations about what might be possible locally. Devolution mustn't make everywhere the same Katja is cautious about predicting whether devolution will necessarily be good for Chichester. Much will depend on the quality of the eventual plans and the people making the decisions. Her concern is that the city's particular character and challenges should not disappear inside something too generic. The opportunity is for strong local networks to generate ideas and evidence that can feed into the wider Sussex system while retaining Chichester's distinctive identity. 🧪 What would a Chichester Laboratory actually do? The model Catja describes is somewhere between a research network, civic laboratory and matchmaking service. A resident or local organisation might identify a problem. A university could research it. Architects or planners might explore possible interventions. Campaigners and communities could contribute their experience. Researchers from other countries might show how similar problems have been tackled elsewhere. The Laboratory can then help connect those people. Its early 'research festivals' have deliberately mixed professional and community perspectives, with contributions ranging from architecture and urban planning to citizen research and environmental campaigns. Catja would eventually like to see a searchable body of research about Chichester, more formal relationships with universities, researchers spending time in the city and short, intensive hackathons or design charrettes focused on particular problems. But the crucial test comes afterwards. Can research turn into an intervention? Can an idea attract investment? Can professionals take it forward? Can something actually get built or changed? For Catja, the Laboratory succeeds when it helps move from talking about a place to doing something in it. 🏘️ What could Chichester experiment with? Several practical challenges emerge from the conversation. Better housing Explore infill, density and new forms of development that provide genuinely useful housing without automatically creating further car dependency. A cycling city Learn from places such as Amsterdam about the infrastructure and behavioural change needed to make cycling an ordinary means of getting around rather than a marginal alternative. Cleaner water Connect campaigners, researchers, policymakers and specialists around sewage and pollution rather than allowing the issue to become only a source of anger between different sides. Fibreglass and abandoned boats Explore the environmental impact of ageing fibreglass vessels and whether universities, designers and researchers can develop practical approaches to reuse or recycling. Climate adaptation Use Chichester's manageable scale as a place to test practical responses to climate change and sustainable urban living. The individual projects may be small. The interesting question for devolution is whether successful experiments could then inform investment and policy elsewhere in Sussex. 👤 About Dr Catja de Haas Dr Catja de Haas is an architect and urbanist and one of the directors of the Chichester Laboratory. Originally from the Netherlands, she studied architecture at Delft University of Technology, including study in Barcelona, where her thesis explored the pressures tourism placed on the identity of a coastal town. She subsequently worked with architectural practices in Japan before moving to the UK, initially intending to stay for two years. Three decades later, she remains here. Katja completed a PhD by design at UCL examining the idea of home and also studied housing and urbanism at the Architectural Association. Her work has repeatedly returned to questions of housing, coastal places, tourism, identity and how cities adapt to change. She now combines her architectural practice in London with her work in and around Chichester, where the Chichester Laboratory is developing new connections between local challenges, professional expertise, academic research and community knowledge. 🎧 Production credits Host: Richard Freeman Guest: Dr Catja de Haas Sound design, editing and original music: Chris Thorpe-Tracey Production management: Letitia McConalogue 📣 Get involved 👉 sussexandthecity.info — episodes, resources, events and more about devolution and change across Sussex 👉 sussexintelligence.com — independent research and evidence-led insight into growth, infrastructure, governance and belonging across Sussex