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Well, okay. Well, but now I have water actually Sometimes not brought you by anything except for yours and why are they everywhere? I know I that's gonna like this for the time. I mean here's the thing there were scooters because I had a scooter But I don't know They're like race they were yeah Speaking of anachronistic hey say that word 10 times fast I think it's time for history lesson For history lesson All right season five episode five mortal karmbat Actually who I guess Yes indeed It's your call it's a This was written by grand godfrey and mark Brunner and Kyle what else is episode Sarah's still away from the wave writer the legends find a new encore with Eva's new invention but for cross the Nator is that the right word not the Gator Darby's words I was now trying to defeat Genghis Khan in 1990s Hong Kong Costotene's life is hanging in the balance and Ray Nora and Gary all try to help him But cost it he tries to make it deal with Esther instead meanwhile Bayrod has been confused about Charlie's recent behavior But they all learn why Charlie's trying to outrun or past and from what?
Alright an umbrella Little bit of a little bit of a interesting stuff. I guess a little back to it I don't know prognosticator means personally for tells of profit as we driven pretty pretty applicable there for a Yeah, well, it's not getting and this is a new thing This is this is a fun getting a little creation that they made to like you know predict when anachronism come out But it was it was mentioned for two seconds and then completely overshadowed by a scootie Was a scootie scootie scoot yeah, and so yeah, and so yeah Scootie makes good stole all the thunder from the prognosticator and like this is I don't know man This is like they just came in like yeah, I'm gonna. Yeah, I got scooter It's good. I don't know I've yet to see somebody except for like the kids on razors like it's skate parks actually doing like you know backflips and things like that and doing Things that would literally kill me if I even dare attempt them That's the only time you ever look cool and it's and even still you look way cooler on a skateboard doing tricks And you do on a scooter doing tricks just say that so yeah, not sure not sure where that came from You know the coolness angle because I personally hate them I don't know about you guys.
They're all over Austin, Texas and people are just idiots. Yes, well I'm 46 I missed the whole scooter thing I was there for the skateboards and then scooters came out and they look like skateboards with handles Which made me think like you little pussy children that you can't just go hands free what well No bars if you'll remember our history. This is a show about history after all right The skateboard was invented in 1955 by Marty McFly after he went to the box off of the scooter a scooter right so yeah So full circle full circle here. Yeah, so and yes, I hate them I mean, you know, I've never used one before to get around downtown, but every time I had the opportunity to do so I just hate Actually, it's like most of the people who use them in Austin are just hammered Every driver Outside of Austin right outside of Mainer on the east side of town and like every time I get an uber downtown for whatever reason Which usually is pretty infrequently every single uber driver talks about how they hate the scooters because they have almost killed somebody or Someone has cut across the intersection of the red light or done all sorts of other crazy stuff And I find it hilarious that Sarah at the end is like what's to do all these scooters?
They're terrible But yeah, I want to say that 95 97 that's when the razor came out Early 2000s thing Let's see here actually let's see here the launch of the razor the first razor scooter was in 2000 Yes, so they are messing up so they become their own anachronism they have they have a nachronized this yes Kyle Maybe Know that inside Joe colis in a season two of legends TV talk yes Yeah, I feel like you know there we're kind of disregarding timelines. It is yeah, it's not really important anymore in the show Which is fun, but the beginning of this episode was really fun. We find out the game is con is the is the encore encore Thank you. You're welcome and that led to Basically one of the greatest emoshes to John Wu that I think I've ever seen this whole thing was yeah Yeah, the whole episode was Hong Kong John Wu action movies.
I was like Yeah, that Katie lots direct this episode. So she must be like a huge John Wu fan like well I'm just sitting there. I'm like okay. I have to go John Wu.
Oh, I Dove fly ride and I'm like intro gigas con the dove blue ball like this is a John Wu homage I did not get that I thought it had something to do with Davis conning does because I mean I don't know much about It's not but now they should think it's all John Wu makes sense because mission possible to also face off the The opening scene of face off was great the one thing that I was disappointed about this was usually in John Wu films The gun plays extremely accurate. We're like you know if you have a guy a barretta 92 Fs It has 15 round magazine you have one in the chamber. They will shoot 16 shots and then they will reload they will make an eight point to show you Or like in in face off Yes, yeah Casser Troy had a 1911 which holds seven rounds the magazine one the chamber shoots eight rounds and it shows that he's empty Right and so and they make points of that like it I think it's really really cool John Wu really pays attention to that kind of stuff Katie laughs not so much But you know everything else about it everything else about it was spot on as far as John we go Docker any points for having anything Like that they did make reference to their pistol being empty which is which is something that you don't see a lot Right. Yeah, I'm out like so there are two instances with it with the female cop with a bow where we had that which was great Yeah, just lots of lots of guns a Kimbo, which is another movie that I want to see by the way Just kind of sidetracked that But yeah, like very John Wu loved it very much I'm like sideways guns blazing It's just shot and then there's a dove behind it not that they did that this time but yeah So let's let's just first off before we like dive into the rest of this episode I just wanted to just wax poetic about John Wu right quick.
What is like overall impressions on this episode will let me have Well, first of all here's Nate I Like this episode for what it was I liked Katie's like direction with it and I like that it was more kind of more of a Constantine Um driven story this time around no, she's not gonna That's what I do I crush dreams yeah the dream crusher And then the whole everything with Charlie seemed like very forced but it was all because I'll care I get that But I was just like hey, I need to be important again. Here's why it was a stare to me It was a stereotypical standard and Colin I talked about this before we went on the earth It was a standard legends of tomorrow transition episode halfway through the run Where they tell it like kind of a story for the first part would say had to deal with crisis They had to be able to fall out of that okay fine and we yes, we had on course We introduced on course and we introduced it there's something with Nora, but they didn't spend a lot of time on it It was all just kind of hodgy paging not really moving the story along now We're at episode six and they're like okay now. We have to get to the story because we only have four more episodes So it's the standard transition We need to deal with you know Charlie being a fake you need to deal with Constantine going after Aster's mother like it's the setup episode So do I like it sure but the parts I liked about it had to do with the fact that they were you know the minute they started Moving John who or a lodging John who I was like okay. I'm in because I think who I like everything He's done except oh no the hope is angry totally different Anyway, I loved I love at least hope was incredible and you are a silly person I do the rest of the retrospective on Angles Holkin, so that's forever changed my pressure to film Anyway, I do think that they you know it's a standard episode.
We'll see how things go But I enjoyed it. I mean it was not as good as it's gonna be episode four with slashers I think at this point. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right I agree with you like it did feel like a transition episode It did feel like we're trying to move the plot forward a lot and I really didn't really episode especially the John We don't want to do things like that. I mean it was moving forward pretty quickly Especially with the fact that they shoot hoard and a relationship with Charlie and Bayrod Yeah, I don't that came after anywhere and yeah after hey, we're when it was never mentioned prior to this episode That's just kind of no and they're saying that I read some articles this week They're trying to say that that that's a post crisis change Which the same as her being a fake is a post crisis change like a world changed and boom.
Okay, you know what crisis buys you that Okay, this does buy you that you get to do a little bit of retconning So if that's what you need to do and that's what you should have done when you introduce Bayrod in the first place Bayrod comes in and he has no like connections with any of the other legends on any real level So and I think maybe they're sitting around the right room for episode four or five going hey We're having more fun with Zari because Zari has all these you know relationships with everybody and Bayrod is supposed to be somebody Who's been there for a year? Oh, crap. I've built a relationship for him. I mean technically though technically I mean there has been a years worth of Or two years how are we gonna show right?
Yeah, there's been two years of relationships or we just as an audience I've never seen it because it was instantly replaced with Yeah, when we went when I came over when sorry kind of removed yourself from the timeline so yeah But I do agree it was one of those things where it's like okay Well, we gotta we gotta stick something in there and if it was a post crisis change, that's kind of another thing I wanted to talk about right quick Crisis so Charlie knew about the multiverse. They also understand the multiverse She knew that everything had been switched down into one universe I was really the impression that the only people that knew that were the people who were marching band-huntered The pair guns themselves in garage gorilla broad if you watch some of these flashouts Like they knew the multiverse at one point existed and now she does it the multiverse what she says in the episode is now The multiverse doesn't exist. It's all on earth. But post crisis.
No one knew about the multiverse except for paragon Some people who were marching band-hunted. Okay, they're there their whole their whole History and past right right yeah, so so my question is you guys is like where do you think she gained this knowledge? Well, yeah, okay, so either either she's a guy she got marching to basically Yeah, yeah, I mean never saw it again. There's a lot of things we didn't see so I could see Sarah being like listen you've got a Martian my whole crew because I've lost Ali I know how Ali was lost the rest of them aren't gonna know it you know and you know If I want my support system, I'm gonna need them to know like I can see that I can head can in that very easily yeah But yeah, I mean it's It's a standard legends pull yeah, and you know I mean the crisis cross over that was amazing spectacular But I think the fall out from crisis has been handled a little less less well Well, it's like they had their hands on the wheel pre-crisis and they had their hands on the wheel beginning of the season for crisis You know like everybody was talking and everybody's like okay We're gonna play in this box here that you put it for us so the crisis comes off right but now that we're done with crisis Everybody's like no no no I want to be my boss again.
So yeah, which is what happened with DC after crisis if you were alive in 85 That's really kind of what happened look at Hoffman. Let's not even talk about that Fair game, but yeah, so I don't know it's kind of interesting I'm assuming that it's some sort of you know whatever hand-wavy thing you need to do to explain that That's fine I just it's had a man's surprise to me because I didn't think anybody was aware of that that we haven't seen the man-hunter orders be a Who's already paired on a side of broad but like broad-type intelligence like there's we all talk about that on Flash TV talks this week if you're interested in the discussion on that which probably aren't because you're listening to legends TV talk Who knows maybe you are I wanted more out of the episode was Jumping sideways and shooting fighting fighting because the title I mean it is a play on Mortal Kombat I would still like to see more fighting other than gunplay or That's it actually because it was only done by yeah, that's it I think you have to have the gunplay. I mean maybe doing the John Wu episode with the Mortal Kombat The only Mortal Kombat thing was the title everything else was far more of Japanese cinema of the 90s And you know early 2000s like it just you know it was far more Relatable to that but I think they just wanted to do the the pun of Mortal Kombat. Yeah, you know I would like to see a little bit more fighting.
I would like to see a little more gunplay and jump, you know I think they should have dubbed everything. Yeah, no, I do that Like I like the fact like I immediately thought oh, this is gonna be great. There's gonna be subtitles And they're gonna speak you know in Mandarin or something like that And then it was just the one word and then they went over to the thing and yeah But I was also happy that it wasn't too terribly like culturally insensitive as far as being concerned Because a lot of representations you have a being is gone and like the the Mongol hordes and things like that are just like Not really historically accurate by any means and sort of portray the Mongol people in a very negative light But they didn't go that route this time. He was not like this He seemed like an intelligent kind of person like he was I mean granted he was you know a world or didn't and we're not saying that this dude was like, you know All peaches and roses or anything like that.
You know a lot of times the the representation there of like when you talk about gang It's just like really weird off Yeah, so that pretty did a pretty good job with that I was kind of cool seeing him in 97 trying to take over the world on scooters Scooter Well, but see that one that one because so I noticed this I pay close attention But so you know Nate lost scooty mics boots at the beginning right and so gan guess I think took that and had his the Engineer guy make a couple more but some of the ones they were doing tricks over the cop cars home and they're coming down They're not electric those are regular scooters, so But that's a John Wu thing too is like a make up of technology that you know think about it We're talking about it. He's one of his most famous movies involves taking your face No more drugs for this name I mean so I that again I could get behind that that part I could check out because I like John Wu and like I said the technology and all that he'll play with it But yeah, you know, yeah, it just it was okay. It wasn't anything I you know I would probably skip this episode if I was watching I don't know I just I like I would probably watch the beginning part of it. Well, yeah So there's a little bit of weird stuff, but I would watch for the constant thing stuff.
I think that's where really the story Constant team I like Constantine too It was kind of weird though because you know when you have an episode that is half John Wu homage film and half something else Right, it's it's it's kind of weird And so like I almost feel as if when they do these sort of homage ones that we the side story should be a little less emphasized Or just written out entirely in another episode, right? I think I think the constant thing stuff I think I have to do it because they have to keep the story moving forward It does seem like they kind of tried to shoehorn in a B plot And I'm not sure which one was the B plot because they were kind of both a and a one You know, I could have stood for the encore being a B plot I'll be honest with you. I have felt that the encores are people out almost this entire season I feel like the real meat of the story here is what Constantine's gonna do to save Asherid and to like fix the problem overall because Like you know we had this issue where it's that they can't kill them They can't send them back to hell So they either keep them on the ship in jars or in a prison or they just like you know hit him with a special hell gun and make them disappear So didn't we do that with Genghis Khan in the sort yeah, exactly and same thing with with a Bugsy But yeah, but yeah, but he got shot by his hell gun and disappeared and so he's gone He's no longer a problem Genghis Khan got stabbed by his health sword gone no longer problem I'm a ranswannett and Rasputin still in the ship So it really just feels like you know This is a temporary solution for the problem that Constantine's trying to solve and so yeah, like it's really weird to me I feel like the Constantine stuff even though it's kind of written as a B plot is the main Theraphair the main arc of the season and that's kind of weird it is so it is the main arc of the season which I'm okay with again I mean I love what they're doing here. Okay.
I'm not a fan of Constantine. I think the show is that good I'm you know, it's okay with it getting canceled. I'm not a big fan of the character. I get it's not for me However, I love the fact that there are a lot of people that do dig it and they're kind of giving them the sequel series You know, it's kind of like the reboot revival for Constantine that those fans need it And so I can get behind that, you know, and so that's why I don't bitch about Constantine as much anymore Because I realize that that's what it is.
This is what they're doing for them And I'm okay with it and I think it's gonna get back to normal at some point I don't know that he's gonna be around next year, you know They might actually push him back to his own show on the HBO Max or something because he should be on they should be able to They should put him on HBO Max and do the show right, you know Make it dark make it let him swear let him have sex with dudes and girls and I'm all for it like I think that that's a better place for him, you know My gosh writing's on the wall. Has there been any show other than Titans that's done well Well, I would argue that the shows have done well, they just canceled the pre-mature because they're planning on canceling that service right I think we're all under HBO Max. Yeah Well, like small thing, you know Something was was a critical and from an understanding of your success and they canceled after three episodes, right? I'm even before the first episode here.
That's right. Yeah, yeah And so I feel like with that one this kind of situation where it's like we might as well cancel it now and then start getting our production Stuff ready for HBO Max and I love to eat tight. They're the Titans. I thought both those shows are great I just you know It's so with the street with all of a sudden just all start.
Oh the org has a street Show I love it do patrol and the never But I loved I used to read the like they caught my fascination in the 80s I talked about this on my other podcast I do for my patrons They caught my the do patrol to go on site caught my fascination in the 80s with the team Titans because of I was always fascinated by the fact They killed the entire team. It's like Now you hear it all time, but yeah, I love the do-it-roll and Grant Morrison's run on it was great. Yes watch it as much as possible And I love here. Yeah, I'm out.
I have drank two beers and like Yeah, so yeah, we were talking earlier about changes and during crisis and things like that and evidently I think it was Kyle You said that Charlie's change into a fate sister was a price change Okay, okay, so it's an article where they said that this is like a fallout from crisis. Okay. She was originally just a shape Sister now. She's a fate sister.
Yeah, and so this is huge More writing a soul sister fate sister shape shifter soul sister soul Yeah, that's not good work anyway Yeah, so Charlie has a fate sister a lot of crisis She broke the loom her sisters are after her that seems to be kind of like this is this is a this is a this is the B plot now Yeah, it was kind of like a tertiary plot almost because we have it constantly is gonna be the a plot Then yes, I would say this is a B plot and then the encores are C plots then right Charlie's the loom is gonna feed the a plot Yes, I needed to to bring this woman back and then constantly also bring astro back. Yeah, somehow and speculation Right before I get into that I just want to mention that mikwuss in this episode Yes for all four seconds and he was lying which will be his one of the week and he down to beer With with Princess Charles. Yeah Here are the names of the fates its Clotho, which is the spinner which is what Charlie is luck is the Any This is all Greek myth so now we're getting so now we're doing magic Greek encores Wow, how would you miss these ones like I Don't know I felt it was I felt they really found their stride in season two and like that's the legends that I've loved like it was hard for us to get Everybody to get a like do a podcast on the show I mean people were just that uninterested in it and like I did it I did the most episodes that I showed probably the only reason why I'm Because I found two suckers who wanted like you know Take a gamble on the second season I'm glad the gamble paid off. Yeah, yeah Yeah, so but getting back here to the Constantine, you know last episode his dial was turned up really high and so he had like You know moments to live basically because his lung cancer was so accelerated and you know He has this struggle and whatnot with himself and what to do with those last moments I they try several different things to try to heal him They try for Godmother powers they which was a significant with the chandelier like the the fairy Godmother power You want to see him?
I guess I wanted to swing from the chandelier here from the chandelier here This is another Music to you. Oh my gosh. I listen to the other all I know the song Oh I See I have the hardest time users I don't know if there's something wrong with my ears But like I have the hardest time listening to lyrics and like I was doing the same song for five years And then one day clicking my head that's what the lyrics are actually saying like for example, you know the song And I miss you. Yeah, like the desert's miss the rain.
Yeah, that's all yeah I thought it was I miss you like the devil's mysteries And I thought that for years and years and years and years because I have a problem listening to lyrical content and songs I just can't understand it and well now we have the power of Google that can just look everything I just assumed that what I hear is correct because how do you doubt your own ears? That's like that's like a sign Insane You know Excuse me But yeah, so anyway, we're talking about Chandelier Getting better chandelier stuff they tried a little the little guy from season two or not season three from last season to try to heal him That doesn't work he talks to his cane which he threatens to shove up his bum in which the cane says You like it? Yeah, I thought that was funny. So we don't know Constantine's about him.
I think I think he's a I would have said he was a top. But yeah, he's a switcher. I think it depends. I think he's which are absolutely absolutely I think I think he is very fluid in his sexuality and he will go every which way Constantly We were talking about This gets on the show The explicit tag has to come up yeah, apparently my content in the chat agrees with you Kyle in that he likes this He's one of the best before came to camp.
I like to go. I like them going through history too They got their history though. They have and they kept that aspect of it, but they haven't but they haven't gone into the future A lot I just here's the thing I don't I didn't like season one I thought season one was kind of it was it was formula. It was exactly like flash in arrow It was there was no real reason to watch it and I'm sorry Casper as as Vandal Savage was the worst casting He kept trying to chew the scenery, but it wasn't savages and savage to the scenery in a different way that I've always imagined Savage is always just like he's battle savage.
So you only I could put it. I love that they won't be I love that they embrace the camp of this. I think the part of the reason I like to show now is that it's its own thing It's it's unapologetic about it, right? Yes We are going to do stupid silly things and you know Nate's gonna meta talk about not being a part of the crossover because We don't get invited to the crossover because we're not as popular splash in arrow and but we're gonna make it like we don't want to go And you know like yeah, I like that.
I leave it Yeah, they lean into it They know how to utilize it well and it really really works for them in my opinion. Yeah, like there are some shows that are campy And it's not there it's not their intention to be campy I feel and for those it's kind of one of those like you know you laugh at it's so bad It's good kind of thing But in this show they understand that it is campy as hell and they and they play with it and they make it work And they make it they do a really good job with it I just yeah, I really like the camp there's sometimes where it's been kind of like did they jump to shark in that moment? But those moments are few and far between in my opinion. Yeah, but yeah, so so anyway, you know back to Constantine here you know he Trying to find a way to hear himself finally he accepts that he sits down to a nice dinner with two of the friends that he has left which is Ray and Gary of all people and they decide to have one little final toast as I sit down to drink and Constantly poisons himself to go to purgatory to meet with astrid and this is interesting because he sings the song Asred's mother saying and it kind of messes with her in a real big way and I think I think it's fair Yeah, I think it's time for some speculation Okay, so here we go speculation time we have Constantine finally make headway with Astrid and it was by singing the song that her mother used to sing her but Saying start over first Okay, yeah, and that has a dramatic and profound impact on her and so much so that instead of killing him she gives him time to Try and undo all of these things right and that was that was his big thing right?
He says I can go and I can undo all of this and I can make these things never happen and I can make you You know get a life that you want and so this brings me to my speculation for this weekend It's kind of a multi-part thing The first part is this so Constantine So here I see here the elements we have a play we have Constantine we have the luma fate We have undoing things that we're done and then we have the overall impact of that So my question for you guys today on speculation is this are we gonna see the luma fate being used to go back in time and like Fix things so they never happened and are we gonna have like a constant team kind of a racial moment kind of like we did with Zari? Or or because my theory the way I see it is is we're gonna go back in time. We're gonna get the luma We're gonna collect the pieces of it. We're gonna change the fate of Astrid's mother with the luma therefore Astrid will never be taken to hell Astrid's mother will never die.
Astrid will have a final normal life Constantine will never be the person that he is Basically the entirety of history was changed the entire season of Constantine will be over everything will be messed to hell Constantino go away. Is this an exit point for Constantine in the series once he does that? I don't know like I'm just throwing stuff out here guys. What do you think?
Well for me? I think you're absolutely right. I think they're gonna also use this to fix Zari I think if you take Constantine so you take Constantine out of the equation you take Astrid out of the equation now last season When neuron doesn't necessarily have him because he was driving most of it Yeah So all of a sudden now you don't have hay world in the situation air but Rod still ends up dead Zari comes back And it's almost like this year didn't happen, but oh we're in a post crisis world. So that's a change I don't know it's like I think they're getting too big on that but on the other side of it I don't think they let Constantine have a happy ending like that That's like a happy ending and it doesn't screen constant to me.
Well, Kyle. What do you think man? I don't think I think Natalie that's a that's her mother's name right? Yeah, yeah, so he will save her and But I don't think it will redeem Astrid.
I think she will still I think it will still have the events play out where Constantine does the stupid thing and Has her has her soul go to hell so it won't change him at all. He's gonna stay in that person the whole time I I don't think they're gonna have that that drastic of a change for for a major DC character It's it's just he's too big. I can't disagree with that. Yeah Otherwise, yeah, it's just and then how old one of the sisters have to deal with all this Yeah, well the sisters have the lume the lume is basically going to be now the the Definitely have from season three that could change the spirit destiny.
It is a test. It's just it. We're kind of rehashing Old plots here. Yeah, the spirit destiny was supposed to do the same thing that the faith's going to do It's like well, then why don't we just go back and get the freaking spirit destiny?
Like why are we screwing? It's just it's really interesting consequences and stuff that they're putting out here because like I feel like anything they do to redeem Asterids or to fix asteroids mother from dying a serious implications for the rest of the series of like everything, you know And it's just it's it's a really bizarre kind of scenario to be in where? How do you do that without breaking everything else? Yes, it's post-crisis, but still I mean It's it's a really kind of slippery slope.
They're on here And I don't know it constantly it's gonna be a next season I hadn't seen any news about like contracts or anything like that I thought I saw that he's gonna be coming back for season six, okay, okay Well, that's interesting then that throws that theory out the window that I had about him getting happy and leading the show I feel like that would be an opportunity for them to do it. He disappears like Zari did and then I think he should Yeah, I do and yeah, he's got they've got big plans for them season six. Yeah, there is I'm sorry. I think he should be taken out, you know, it's I don't think you this I mean this still has to do with magic and hell and that's the thing that Yeah, they do have magic and they do have hell and I guess that's what's interesting about it is like how do we how do we go from that into?
How do you I guess how you transition away from that now now that we have what we have I mean how do you go back into just like Anachronisms or you know the other stuff like that. It just doesn't seem like that's an avenue they can go down magic To quote the hilarious picture on the internet where it's a little it's a little DM guy from the Dungeons and Dragons animated television She's you guys don't want to talk about yeah, exactly magic coming from his hands, you know, right man. It says magic Which we talked about last year yes, we also make up ultimate my girlfriend so it just gives them so many opportunities Just to kind of be like who cares we don't have to explain its magic and I think with the show as campy as Legends that can work to their benefit, but you know, I don't know Yeah, there's Michael Conté agrees with Kyle and you know, I agree with you as well Michael Like it just it seems like I have an avenue by which to get him off the show which will I think you think they should do correct? I do I think they should put him on HBO Max.
I think the show would go eight You make a real adult version of Konstantin's show you put it on HBO Max You have it be Matt Ryan you have it go dark you have their swearing and the dark arts and you can have all the you know Gates And the whole night yards go to town. Yeah, put him there. That's where he belongs Like I think the writers like him because again magic the ultimate big oven. What are we doing?
Well, we have magic Oh, well that we can just say about a salmon. Oh, it works. You know, it's it's a cheat. See that I agree with you Well, I think I think constantly like the NBC show didn't take off I really it was broadcast television It was broadcast television they couldn't show him smoking and when they got the news they were canceled They're just like screwing them by the show and when they took those liberties when they didn't have to worry about getting renewed by NBC The show got demonstrably better.
Yeah, and so I agree with you That we were able to put it on HBO Max or whatever and give it give it a budget get it Matt Ryan and give it all These things that didn't have on broadcast TV then I think the show would just explode. I think it would be great But I don't know what legends does without him. That's the thing is I don't know where legends goes like we've had Magic will survive. I think legends can very easily survive without Matt Ryan.
I think I don't know I mean next week we're losing Ray Nora. Oh, thank God. Bye. Bye Ray.
Take care. Go away now Thank you for playing you're not Ray Palmer. You're you're you're a best. Yeah, no, but bye bye bye bye It is it is next week tomorrow next week is their last episode well next next week meeting this Not far that's the super Tuesday is taking over most of broadcast TV.
Oh, yeah, so yeah I'm voting for Trump in my primary said no one ever There's a problem, but it's no primary. Yeah, it's kind of like you know that they don't hit the remote where he was here. Wow, wow You're talking about history. Yeah, we're bringing it around you basically I guess I say that yes This is great.
Yeah, it's calm. Yeah That's what I said Man all for the place man all for the clay We're all gonna die coronavirus. He's like fire all the CDC and they can't say anything negative or they get like But yeah, so we want to show next week, but I Because we'll buy the coronavirus right I think they show could survive without John Constitine I do I think and without Ray I think what they like I said I think the way to revitalize the show is now that they're all on winners you grab thunder or lightning from black lightning You grab one of the people from Supergirl. Maybe you know you grab alligator man and sue.
Okay, you've got a show You know you don't that's too many people. It's the many people who just Ralph and Susan. Yeah, although I would see more They Ralph and see spin off than I would a them joining legends. Yeah, I love this Robinson have always worked best in a team environment They always as far as characters in DC.
They've tried elongated man in various different things and he's always worked best It's kind of like showy tributioni from friends Okay, he works in the ensemble, but the minute he's the lead you don't want to watch it because why would you want to watch the show about? You know, I think elongated man is the exact same way I don't think he is definitely a supporting character. He is not the front guy and so that's why I think you do well on legends Like you know he does fine on flash, but you know you put my legends and he would be a star on legend. Yeah, I can see that Yeah, well, yeah, I don't know.
It's it's an interesting future. We'll see what's going on. I think I think you're right Well, I think HBO would be a or HP my great place for a constantly show at the same time like I'm not I really I do like him on Legends, I know and I understand I'm in the minority here, but you know, that's why I'm here. Yeah, I know your opinion So so Well, so any other musings or speculations or anything else this week I do think that they're gonna put the luma fate together I think the luma fate will be the big government season They'll be gonna fight with the sisters and then it'll be like nothing happened and they'll be absolutely no fallout next year from any of I think that's the case and that's gonna make me sad depends on whether or not they'll acknowledge it like a diagnosis of all the characters going Yes, so what it's magic, you know We shall see Kyle No, nothing I can think of I mean speculation wise.
I mean, I'm just glad that constant and died Yes, I know he was but still Again again like with the slasher. There was a lot of blood in this episode A lot of shot wounds like that. Yeah, they have to work. It was great.
Yeah, and one thing that I have to say that my one main huge Major disappointment for this episode is that when Bay Rod stopped all those bullets and they're sitting there in front of them all Matrix style he didn't grab one look at it and go whoa And then like Even the shooting of this episode like they did bullet time turns and they did like you know I was like, okay, this is kind of great Yeah, like just just big round of applause to Katie lots for this episode I she did a fantastic job the John we homage was was perfect in my opinion. It was just wonderful and I hey I'm excited to see her direct more. Yes, which will probably low in season six because you know they do that yeah She's definitely not directing anymore this season because they've already wrapped season five. Oh, okay, okay Well, then season six hopefully that's all to you Yeah, I realized before I took it off it my headphones are just be you know really terrible Yeah, we're just we're tipping we're Yeah, will to you what do you think about this episode?
Oh, yeah, oh yeah love hearing here in silent Just by the topic honestly sage like advice right when you need it All right ladies gentlemen now is time for my favorite portion of the show and that is mix what a week Yeah, all right, there's not a lot of mikots of the week to choose from This episode Payed him for the episode exactly We're not gonna see me at all this whole episode And there he is the thing at the beginning where they're like, you know Mixing with Ali yeah, I'm actually another character. He was off doing something else to you I don't know what it was But yes, I was just pretty much thinking he wasn't gonna show up But here we go we had mix show up and deliver his one line, which is this week's mix could we take it like I My beer break Not a lot of options for mixed for a week this week Yeah, but although seeing McJill sideways with you know shooting the flame gun could have been okay like a John We style like slow mo flame gun. Yeah, yeah I feel they missed a part of that we have got oh god a lot of emails first of all all right So our US our city RSS feed has been updated Google has detected a new login literally just now because I just logged in They've also updated their terms of service as has YouTube so thank you very much for Google and you do for emailing the show All right, we actually have an iTunes review in this week and so we'll want to read that to us Okay, it's from diamond day 40 God I wish it was really time and Dave but he says this podcast is the best this show needs it even better than five star rating because he Subject with six stars you make my enjoyment of the wackiest show in the DC universe even that much more better have been a fan ever Since you broke out quantum leap TV talk Thanks for the point that TV talk this last episode keep up the great work. So that's been a while.
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