What does the debate around DEI mean for belonging?

What happens when inclusion becomes contested?Bandile Mndebele speaks with DEI speaker and facilitator Roy Gluckman-John about the changing conversation around diversity, equity and inclusion, particularly in South Africa.They explore grief, loss, belonging, community and the conversations institutions need to have when progress becomes politically or culturally difficult. A conversation about diversity, equity and inclusion, organisational culture and what remains possible when the language of inclusion comes under pressure.Guest: Roy GluckmanTopics: DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, belonging, South Africa, organisational culture, workplace inclusion, community and leadership.The Add IDEAS Podcast is an OTHERWISE production.