EPISODE · Jun 4, 2026 · 1H 12M
“60 Minutes,” The Bidens, and All Those “Summer House” Lies
from Clock It with Symone & Eugene · host Symone Sanders Townsend, Eugene Daniels, Kalen Allen
This week we were keeping tabs on a very long primary day with races all over the country, Jill Biden's book tour, the "Summer House" reunion taking over our feeds, and a battle for the soul of “60 Minutes.” Symone and Eugene cover all of it, and then kick off Pride Month by welcoming internet and TV sensation Kalen Allen to the groupchat. The trio get into Hollywood’s beliefs about the market for queer stories – we may never get a Black “Heated Rivalry,” for example – and Kalen’s beliefs about the responsibilities of public figures. "I look at my life, I look at Eugene, I'm like – we are our ancestors' wildest dreams. We are the dreams that died with them,” says Kalen. “It is heavy, however I take every bit of the weight.” Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Scott Pelley defends his (former) show, Jill Biden defends her husband, and Eugene and Symone finally speak on West Wilson lying to their faces about his "Summer House" scandal. Plus Kalen Allen on an entertainer’s responsibility.
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