61: Andy Worthington plus Pamela Mounter with Wandsworth Quakers on Penal Reform ft Dame Sheila Hancock

Wandsworth Prison Improvement Campaign prompts the first leg of my conversation with AW this month- the question of the state of our facilities and their vesdtigial values is exercising Wandsworth Quaker spearheaded by Liz Bridge, the former Prison Chaplain and the inveterately skilled actor and now activist Dame Sheila. AW and I move on the shaledown of the (temporary ?) rise of Reform locally , Inevitably Gaza -also a mode of inescapable confinement under siege- and much more.  It was a late spring afternoon and the birds were singing in the garden - one thinks conversely of the Birdman of soon to b re-opened Alcatraz.