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EP61. Brenton Queen LMFT | Shame, Addiction, Suicide, and Spirituality as Soul Medicine

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I interview my friend, therapist Brenton Queen, LMFT about a difficult time in his life involving shame, suicidal thoughts, and addiction. We talk about psychedelic assisted therapy and the role of spirituality in healing. ***This episode contains an open conversation about depression, suicidal thoughts, and addiction. Please take care of yourself and take a break if you need to. If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — call or text 988.***Brenton Queen, LMFT, LCAS, CEC is a Marriage & Family Therapist, Addiction Specialist, and founder of Life Recreated. Over 20 years, he's worked with individuals, families, and groups across homes, hospitals, jails, and boardrooms, with a focus on relieving suffering and helping people reconnect with their deepest selves. He completed a certificate in psychedelic-assisted therapy and research through the California Institute of Integral Studies and has spoken at TEDx on psychedelics and the future of mental health treatment.https://www.liferecreatednc.com/***TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Introduction00:02 – Brenton's inner calling00:04 – Marriage falling apart, feeling like a fraud00:05 – Suicidal ideation and mapping it all out00:06 – The client who changed everything00:07 – Meeting Ed, the therapist who saved his life00:09 – "You are looking at the problem"00:10 – How Ed dispelled shame00:11 – "You're self-centered and arrogant"00:14 – Shame spirals and why you're not special00:17 – Shame at the heart of everything00:21 – Ed, the 12 steps, and grinding away at yourself00:23 – Expectations are pre-planned resentments00:24 – Primary and secondary suffering00:26 – Shame underneath addiction00:29 – How addiction works and why it makes sense00:32 – First thing to target: shame00:36 – Safety is the presence of connection00:38 – From transformation to plant medicine00:40 – Spirituality as soul medicine00:44 – The spiritual work of therapy00:47 – Psychedelics and addiction recovery00:50 – What people experience with plant medicine00:55 – What Brenton would say to his 2011 self00:56 – What to say to someone struggling with shame00:59 – The whale: swimming, breathing, going back in***LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCASTApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innercalling/id1809177408Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4K2khwqNKgs90Hs8vrQenZ?si=ad3d2dbeceab49c4***CONNECTINNERCALLING Podcast Website: www.innercalling.orgDr. Victoria Ranade: www.victoriaranade.comIG: https://www.instagram.com/drvictoriaranadeHope+Wellness: Kind, Compassionate, Evidence-Based Mental Health Care where you are genuinely seen and understood: https://www.hope-wellness.com* * * *WHAT IS INNERCALLING?innercalling is a podcast dedicated to the belief that there is a light inside you of profound power, beauty, and wisdom that no darkness can ever overcome. It's a space where mental health meets spirituality, and explore timeless questions about existence, mortality, and what it deeply means to be human.Hosted by Dr. Victoria Ranade, PhD, MBA, ABPP, conversations feature real, organic conversation between two humans, inspired by the field of mental health & clinical psychology, which values what happens simply when two people sit together and talk about life and all its beauty and complications.WHO IS DR. VICTORIA?Hi there, I'm Dr. Victoria Ranade. I'm a board certified licensed clinical psychologist, writer, and podcaster deeply passionate about mental health, spirituality, integrative wellness, and honoring the light inside you — the one that no darkness can ever overcome. Fun fact: You're one of my greatest inspirations.✌🏼💛I LOVE HEARING FROM YOU. SEND ME ANY MAIL OR QUESTIONS HERE:[email protected]#spirituality #mentalhealth #depression #drvictoriaranade #innercallingpodcast #intuition #innerwisdom #innerlight #suicideprevention #addictionrecovery #addition #psychedelicmedicineDisclaimer: https://innercalling.org/disclaimer Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I interview my friend, therapist Brenton Queen, LMFT about a difficult time in his life involving shame, suicidal thoughts, and addiction. We talk about psychedelic assisted therapy and the role of spirituality in healing. ***This episode contains an open conversation about depression, suicidal thoughts, and addiction. Please take care of yourself and take a break if you need to. If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out: 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — call or text 988.***Brenton Queen, LMFT, LCAS, CEC is a Marriage & Family Therapist, Addiction Specialist, and founder of Life Recreated. Over 20 years, he's worked with individuals, families, and groups across homes, hospitals, jails, and boardrooms, with a focus on relieving suffering and helping people reconnect with their deepest selves. He completed a certificate in psychedelic-assisted therapy and research through the California Institute of Integral Studies and has spoken at TEDx on psychedelics and the future of mental health treatment.https://www.liferecreatednc.com/***TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Introduction00:02 – Brenton's inner calling00:04 – Marriage falling apart, feeling like a fraud00:05 – Suicidal ideation and mapping it all out00:06 – The client who changed everything00:07 – Meeting Ed, the therapist who saved his life00:09 – "You are looking at the problem"00:10 – How Ed dispelled shame00:11 – "You're self-centered and arrogant"00:14 – Shame spirals and why you're not special00:17 – Shame at the heart of everything00:21 – Ed, the 12 steps, and grinding away at yourself00:23 – Expectations are pre-planned resentments00:24 – Primary and secondary suffering00:26 – Shame underneath addiction00:29 – How addiction works and why it makes sense00:32 – First thing to target: shame00:36 – Safety is the presence of connection00:38 – From transformation to plant medicine00:40 – Spirituality as soul medicine00:44 – The spiritual work of therapy00:47 – Psychedelics and addiction recovery00:50 – What people experience with plant medicine00:55 – What Brenton would say to his 2011 self00:56 – What to say to someone struggling with shame00:59 – The whale: swimming, breathing, going back in***LISTEN & SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCASTApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/innercalling/id1809177408Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4K2khwqNKgs90Hs8vrQenZ?si=ad3d2dbeceab49c4***CONNECTINNERCALLING Podcast Website: www.innercalling.orgDr. Victoria Ranade: www.victoriaranade.comIG: https://www.instagram.com/drvictoriaranadeHope+Wellness: Kind, Compassionate, Evidence-Based Mental Health Care where you are genuinely seen and understood: https://www.hope-wellness.com* * * *WHAT IS INNERCALLING?innercalling is a podcast dedicated to the belief that there is a light inside you of profound power, beauty, and wisdom that no darkness can ever overcome. It's a space where mental health meets spirituality, and explore timeless questions about existence, mortality, and what it deeply means to be human.Hosted by Dr. Victoria Ranade, PhD, MBA, ABPP, conversations feature real, organic conversation between two humans, inspired by the field of mental health & clinical psychology, which values what happens simply when two people sit together and talk about life and all its beauty and complications.WHO IS DR. VICTORIA?Hi there, I'm Dr. Victoria Ranade. I'm a board certified licensed clinical psychologist, writer, and podcaster deeply passionate about mental health, spirituality, integrative wellness, and honoring the light inside you — the one that no darkness can ever overcome. Fun fact: You're one of my greatest inspirations.✌🏼💛I LOVE HEARING FROM YOU. SEND ME ANY MAIL OR QUESTIONS HERE:[email protected]#spirituality #mentalhealth #depression #drvictoriaranade #innercallingpodcast #intuition #innerwisdom #innerlight #suicideprevention #addictionrecovery #addition #psychedelicmedicineDisclaimer: https://innercalling.org/disclaimer Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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