EPISODE · May 7, 2025 · 2H 2M
#62 - Scott Payne: Undercover FBI Agent in America’s Most Dangerous Hate Groups
from Nothing Left Unsaid · host Tim Green & Troy Green
Former FBI agent Scott Payne spent nearly three decades infiltrating some of America’s most dangerous and secretive groups—from one-percenter biker gangs and hate-filled white supremacist cells to the domestic terror network known as The Base. In this raw and riveting conversation, Payne shares how music helped him earn trust inside the Ku Klux Klan, what it felt like to be stripped and searched at gunpoint while wired, and how he first went undercover… in high school. This episode dives deep into the psychology of extremism, the blurred lines of identity, and the personal toll of living a double life. A gripping look at the hidden war against hate in America. SPONSORS: ElevenLabs: Thanks to ElevenLabs for supporting this episode and powering Tim’s voice. ALS Investment Fund: Thanks to ALS Investment Fund for supporting this episode. SOCIAL: Website: tgnlu.com Twitter: @nlutimgreen Facebook: facebook.com/NLUpod Instagram: @nlupod AUDIO ONLY: Spotify: Listen on Spotify Apple Podcasts: Listen on Apple Podcasts PERSONAL: Tackle ALS: tackleals.com Tim Green Books: authortimgreen.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Former FBI agent Scott Payne spent nearly three decades infiltrating some of America’s most dangerous and secretive groups—from one-percenter biker gangs and hate-filled white supremacist cells to the domestic terror network known as The Base. In this raw and riveting conversation, Payne shares how music helped him earn trust inside the Ku Klux Klan, what it felt like to be stripped and searched at gunpoint while wired, and how he first went undercover… in high school. This episode dives deep into the psychology of extremism, the blurred lines of identity, and the personal toll of living a double life. A gripping look at the hidden war against hate in America. SPONSORS: ElevenLabs: Thanks to ElevenLabs for supporting this episode and powering Tim’s voice. ALS Investment Fund: Thanks to ALS Investment Fund for supporting this episode. SOCIAL: Website: tgnlu.com Twitter: @nlutimgreen Facebook: facebook.com/NLUpod Instagram: @nlupod AUDIO ONLY: Spotify: Listen on Spotify Apple Podcasts: Listen on Apple Podcasts PERSONAL: Tackle ALS: tackleals.com Tim Green Books: authortimgreen.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#62 - Scott Payne: Undercover FBI Agent in America’s Most Dangerous Hate Groups
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