#64: Glenna Gerard: Dialogue and the Ineffable

Glenna Gerard has been involved in education, business, and consulting for over 30 years, much of that as a practitioner, facilitator, and teacher of “Bohm Dialogue,” a method for creating shared understanding, and even shared meaning, developed by the Nobel Prize-winning quantum physicist, David Bohm. Glenna joins these Fools for a far-ranging conversation that touches on many topics, including her experience working with David Bohm, Dialogue and its role in organizations and institutions, the nature of concepts such as emergence, fragmentation and coherence, the unique role of language as a framework for reality, and of course consciousness itself, and meaning. It was truly a joy to host Glenna and we know you will enjoy this very special episode. Thanks for tuning in!Patreon: patreon.com/FoolsandSagesPodcastX: https://x.com/sagetimepodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/foolsandsagespodcast/See the Fools and Sages show notes: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GVCVW1h2_-4JOU22KREzTO0lVDiN3icg?usp=drive_linkChapters: 00:00 Introduction to Glenna Gerard05:24 The Importance of Dialogue08:48 David Bohm's Influence on Dialogue16:10 Understanding Fragmentation and Wholeness19:57 The Role of Language in Dialogue26:05 The Interconnectedness of Human Experience32:21 Exploring Bohm Dialogue in Depth38:14 Creating a Container for Meaningful Conversations43:58 Letting Go of Outcomes48:29 Transmission of Wisdom in Dialogue54:46 Navigating Conflict as a Resource01:04:35 Facilitating Self-Sustaining Dialogue01:10:58 Power Dynamics in Work Environments01:14:04 Leadership and Organizational Change01:24:05 Dialogue as a Way of Being01:27:21 New Dialogic Practices