646. An Air Traffic Controller Walks Into a Radio Studio ...
What does it take to “play 3D chess at 250 miles an hour”? And how far will $12.5 billion of “Big, Beautiful” funding go toward modernizing the F.A.A.? (Part two of a two-part series.)
Episode 646 of the Freakonomics Radio podcast, hosted by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher, titled "646. An Air Traffic Controller Walks Into a Radio Studio ..." was published on September 12, 2025 and runs 61 minutes.
September 12, 2025 ·61m · Freakonomics Radio
Summary
What does it take to “play 3D chess at 250 miles an hour”? And how far will $12.5 billion of “Big, Beautiful” funding go toward modernizing the F.A.A.? (Part two of a two-part series.)
Episode Description
What does it take to “play 3D chess at 250 miles an hour”? And how far will $12.5 billion of “Big, Beautiful” funding go toward modernizing the F.A.A.? (Part two of a two-part series.)
- SOURCES:
- David Strayer, professor of cognition and neural science at the University of Utah.
- Dorothy Robyn, senior fellow at I.T.I.F.
- Ed Bastian, C.E.O. of Delta Airlines.
- Ed Bolen, president and C.E.O. of the National Business Aviation Association.
- John Strong, professor of finance and economics at the William and Mary School of Business.
- Kenneth Levin, retired air traffic controller.
- Olivia Grace, former product manager at Slack.
- Polly Trottenberg, former deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation.
- RESOURCES:
- “An Air Traffic Controller Speaks Out About Newark Airport,” by The Journal (2025).
- "Why Did Air Traffic Control Reform Efforts Fail (Again)?" by Jeff Davis (Eno Center for Transportation, 2023).
- "Supertaskers: Profiles in extraordinary multitasking ability," by Jason Watson and David Strayer (Psychonomic Bulletin & Review, 2021).
- Managing the Skies: Public Policy, Organization, and Financing of Air Traffic Management, by John Strong and Clinton Oster (2016).
- EXTRAS:
- "Multitasking Doesn't Work. So Why Do We Keep Trying?" by Freakonomics Radio (2024).
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