68. I Feel for You: The Lawyer’s Occupational Hazard of Vicarious Trauma, with Prof. Angela Downes

Long hours, heavy caseloads, high stakes—such is the modern trial practice. But when lawyers represent survivors of violent or traumatic incidents, they often experience next-level stress caused by empathetic engagement. In this episode, UNT Dallas College of Law professor and JAMS neutral mediator, arbitrator, and special master Angela Downes introduces listeners to vicarious trauma and its effects on body and mind, how vicarious trauma differs from burnout, and how to recognize compassion fatigue in yourself and your colleagues. Most importantly, Professor Downes discusses effective stress-management strategies that would benefit anyone with a busy trial practice. Topics3:46    What is vicarious trauma?   4:15    Lawyers, vicarious trauma, and burnout7:31    Indicators of vicarious trauma and getting support15:49  How firms can help17:40  Self-care strategies27:55  ABA studies on lawyer stress31:02  More strategies35:09  Recognizing vicarious trauma in others38:20  New generation attunement to wellness40:24 Sign-off questions Quote“So many of us are defined by the work that we do, and we are more than that. We are more than just … being attorneys and counselors. Although it’s a big part of us, there are so many sides to what we do and who we are as people.” Professor Angela DownesResourcesProfessor Angela Downes (bio)NITA Women in Trial (program)Stress, Drink, Leave (article)ABA Profile of the Legal Profession (article)ABA Directory of Legal Assistance Programs (resource)