724: The Problem with Pagan Masculinity with Zach Wagner

While secular journalists, scholars, and even the Pope are wrestling with big questions about Artificial Intelligence, the war in the Middle East, and what it means to be truly human, the Southern Baptists have decided the most urgent problem in 2026 is banning women from preaching. Phil asks why evangelicals are still fixated on issues from 50 years ago, while other Christian traditions are leading the culture in tackling modern questions. Zachary Wagner, author of "Men of Virtue," joins Skye and Kaitlyn for a roundup of masculine news. Wagner says the excesses of some expressions of feminism have fueled a subculture of male grievance, and that a pagan vision of masculinity is now masquerading as Christian throughout the manosphere. Also this week, nuns are challenging the tech giants, and Google wants permission to "debug" Florida.   Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/724-the-problem-with-pagan-masculinity   Looksmaxing, Beauty, and Masculinity - Bonus Interview with Zachary Wagner: https://holypost.substack.com/p/looksmaxing-beauty-and-masculinity   0:00 - Intro   2:58 - Theme Song   3:20 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware!   4:22 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST   5:48 - Google Mosquitos!   11:27 - Nuns Pressuring A.I.!   14:48 - A.I. Misconduct and Sin   20:15 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https://www.feedingamerica.org   20:46 -  - Sponsor - World Challenge - Get your 30-day devotional free from World Challenge at https://worldchallenge.org/HOLYPOST   21:50 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month!   22:49 - Frozen in the Cold War   46:22 - Interview   48:40 - Aspirational Masculinity   59:13 - Are the Fruit of the Spirit Gendered?   1:10:28 - Unified by Antifeminism   1:26:50 - End Credits   Links Mentioned in News Segment: Google's Literal Debugging: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/01/google-permission-release-mosquitoes-california-florida   Catholic Nuns and Palantir A.I. https://religionnews.com/2026/06/03/catholic-sisters-push-palantir-on-human-rights-as-faith-leaders-rally-in-new-york/   A.I. and Sin https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/06/pope-leo-ai-christian/687388/   Other Resources: Men of Virtue: How the Fruit of the Spirit Forms Male Character in the Modern World (A Guide for Men Seeking Biblical Masculinity, Perfect Father's Day Gift) by Zachary Wagner: https://amzn.to/4uZRL9o   Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/   Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus   Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost   Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop   The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.