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Hey. Hey. Hey. I like that one.
I'm Martin McLuh. What the actual fuck? She had a co- special guest. But before that, he's the man who put this into this country.
Is Neil. That's what this is. This country hasn't got many syllables. I'm going to run out of doing those.
OK. Just so you know, I'm just really running out. I'm still trying to work out what this is. Well, it's just this.
Anyway, episode five, series one, Peeping Tom. Now, who's the best person that we could get to come and talk to us while we're watching Peeping Tom? Neil. Um, Daisy.
Apart from Daisy. Well, Charlie. Well, if he didn't have Daisy and Charlie, who would be the best person? Slugs.
Ah, this is going to go off. Right. Oh, of course. It is.
I'm only playing. It's working. Oh, here again. How are you, sir?
I'm very good, guys. Thank you. You're all right. And you've been feeling a bit poorly, then.
I've had a couple of weeks with a virus, but I'm fighting fit. Yeah. I get better for this tonight. OK.
The door's there. If you need to, all of a sudden, dash out. It can be sick. You know, just as somebody asked me what name it was.
That was sick. Oh, yeah. Brentford. Yeah.
That's a difficult one. Can't take his drink. Can't take his drink. So we're going to watch Peeping Tom.
Great. So this was the first episode that you were really in a major way, weren't you? You were just in a little snippet of the very first episode. That's right.
Yeah. I don't think you were anything. No, no. So, oh.
The fifth. Yeah. So before we start watching it, the little bit that you were in in the first episode, was that a way of getting you used to be in front of a camera ready for this episode? No, I think they just needed a connection who I was, I think, and it was a tiny little bit.
And I wasn't really sure what was going on, to be honest. Really? Yeah. I didn't have a kind of yin.
They said, well, yeah, just say this or do this. Things all get made up at the time. Right. I remember right.
And another question. How are you going to feel about watching yourself? I don't know, mind. You've watched them already.
Yeah. I've only watched it twice. I guess. Right.
And that's just tough. A couple of times. It's funny. You kind of don't.
Mm. Do you just let yourself do you think, oh, he's all right? Yeah. You don't really.
Yes. You kind of don't really think it's you, because it's just kind of, you know, different kind of world and a different kind of, you know, you're back to the day job. I think it was, I worked in the first series of pictures you were shirtless. Yeah.
Pretty much. You must love that. Yeah. That's great.
So how long is it? It's always the tech. It's real. Hey, just cool.
How long are you training to get your body in that shape? I was eating daily, you know, 5,000 calories to get to that. Really? Yeah, that's right.
I was just thinking it's a wreck. Yeah. There's a wreck. Maybe we ought to cut down to 5,000 calories.
Maybe we ought to cut down to 5,000 calories. Maybe we could all have a body like Martyn. Oh, no. Hey.
Right then. Here we go. Everybody get your DVDs in, get your i-players playing. And here we go.
Right, the very start. I'll tell you what, I've always thought these are going to be quite educational of these commentary episodes. That's two makes of tractor. I didn't even know existed.
You must have heard of Massifurks. No. What did I say? John Deere.
John Deere. Or four. That's a fucking hell of like a manionite-ed tractor. Well, that shit.
I think. Yeah. Yeah. Or four or two.
Yeah. And please, no Brian Clef tonight, all right? Because I know Wayne was a rapist. If I want to bring in a little cough, because I think he liked this.
I think he would not have a lot of tools. Not a lot. That's what I'm doing. I'm close.
So anyway, here we go. He likes to be close. Oh, there he is. Look at him.
Slice from up. He does scrub up well, don't he? He does. He does.
He's got the most photogenic face in the history of man. It's just when you meet in a real light. The fucking disappointment. Yeah.
Because for things like this, who is it you thought like the wardrobe and the costumes and that? Because that shirt is a thing of beauty. Yeah. I mean, the Swindon thing was going to be, I mean, they actually did think about Sire and Tam.
I thought, no, it's probably, and then was it should be Chiltonstown. The Swindon was kind of the nearest one. Yeah. That's obvious.
Yeah. But like, slubs is shirt there. I mean, that is a work of art. I don't know where you get something that I'm from.
No, exactly. No, the costume department was great. I think the kids have a little bit to say, you know. And sometimes, you know, when they get onto set, you know, Tom and Tom are like saying, nah, you know, change that or that doesn't quite right.
So it's the whole penis stuff, you know. So I think you're not around for these scenes. You only go to set when it's your turn to. Yeah.
A couple of times I've gone and kind of watched a bit, you know, but no, based on working, you know, just be called in for the bits. So when it comes to, I mean, I could be asked to talk to you before about the kids coming to you with the character and Mark Mucklow. In the original, you weren't Mark Mucklow. Were you in Kerry?
You were a butcher or something? I was a butcher. Yeah. I can't remember what my name was for this kind of come out.
So you're not coming in here. So I wasn't going to be a recurring character. That was just somebody. Not sure.
I was delving. Right. See Charlie wasn't in it. You know, you know.
Oh, that wasn't. Was it? So is this the, this Charlie's first proper acting thing? Yeah.
Yeah. We did a, we did a, we did a, um, they did a kind of taste the thing. We're from the guy from human being human. Right.
Yeah. Oh, God. What's the famous? This is good TV.
I mean, radio podcast. This is England. Who's in this is England? Oh, I know.
Oh, my God. Yeah. I know it's actually. Yeah.
He was in the face there and then the Bart, Williamson. No. No. I'm terrible with names.
I know exactly. What's a no of face. Yeah. Yeah.
And then we're face. He was in being human, was he? Yeah. And also in this, at this point, in, um, he's got just as English.
Wow. He's kind of, nice guy. Theo Bart Williams was in Theo Bart Williams. I'm just saying names now.
No. Was that in the pilot? Yeah. And it was Kerry and he was called, so it's a love interest.
Right. Okay. No, Charlie didn't think this looked good. No.
Theo Bartlin Williams, Edward Birch, Chris J Bailey. Um, I'll see if they got, that's what we got. He's so natural, isn't he? Just for somebody that's not done it.
Yeah, he's so natural. Yeah. We just did a kind of a taster thing. And I was, I'm feeling I've Kerry's dad.
This was way before the pilot. No, it's after the pilot. Um, we just fiddling around with ideas. Went up to London with Daisy's friends.
Brothers was kind of filming it. And so we didn't have anyone to fit itself. Charlie, you know the character. If you've been doing a bit right.
Mm. Kind of, um, just naturally. Just, yeah. Just kind of did it.
So you had, you had no apprehension about when they came up to you and said, look, we want you to play Martin Mucklow. You had no worries about it. Or did you sort of like the final? Screen test.
Did you? So yeah, so Daisy kind of basically said to them, he looks a bit like me, you know, Daisy's bald and you know, and fits. So, um, uh, you know, won't give a donutry, you know, so. Here he is.
There he is. The man himself. But again, you have to say that Charlie is very, yeah, like, obviously, you would never know that you've never done it before. No.
That's the thing. Now you're going to say to me that all this good editing took like hours and hours to get it right. Or, well, because I kind of knew what the kids wanted, the thing is, normally actors kind of fly in and fly out. You know, so I've been with this thing for eight years.
So Charlie, so you know the characters, you know that, you know, what they're talking about, they're chatting about what they want, and you can go away. So that you've got that absolute luxury. You know, um, you know, whereas an actor is kind of, here's your script and it's kind of you straight in. You know, there's no, there's usually no rehearsal.
No. I mean, it's, it's. So the voice, where did the voice come from? Well, they said, the kids said, listen to the, um, uh, the Fred West takes, you know, the police kind of interviewing tapes.
So I did a bit, um, made up a bit about being best, best of my show. That was your improvisation. That was kind of my improvisation. Oh, wow.
They kind of kept that in. Right. So yeah. So this caravan, was this near North Beach as well?
Yeah, this is in North Beach in a, just in a middle of a field. Yeah. So you can imagine what's in there. They've got cameraman, uh, director, uh, sound guy, somebody else in the toilet in a.
Now, of course, when you film in North Leats, you obviously get a crowd. At first, I'd imagine you were probably quite proud for it. Yeah, it was. It was some bloke committee said.
Are you Brian Clough? I said possibly. No one could let that ask for wine women and wafers, did they? Wine women wafers.
That's a call back to an old podcast that he does. That was a great podcast. That was so much fun anyway. Oh, dear.
It's just, if you're, I mean, everybody that's in a family, they know that they can be ruckions and they can be, you know, if you're a dad, you're going to tell your kids off and stuff like that. What happens if you, something has happened and like you're in a mood with the kids or the kids are in a mood with you and then you've got to go off and film? Do you just put it all away or? Yeah, I mean, we don't really argue.
I mean, they seem to have that moment, you know. But no, I mean, they're kind of, you know, when it comes to, no, they get on well, really. I mean, you know, they have to do writing and stuff, you know, so they're kind of with each other a lot of the time. So, and they kind of just know, you know, it's like, you know, being in a football team, they were in a band and it was someone, you know, you've been in the same band based on drums, you know, you just know each other and you know what's going to happen.
Yeah. You're kind of a bit telepathic, you know. And it's almost like the whole, this country thing has got so big now that it's sort of bigger than the two of them. No, isn't it in regards to they can't have any sort of petty arguments amongst each other because this whole, obviously not monster because that's the whole, this country thing has become so big.
Yeah, no, absolutely. It's been huge and above all kind of expectations. And what the really weird thing is now that they're going off doing other projects and then coming coming back because it just seems kind of bizarre, you know, because that's this country has been around for kind of eight years. It's something they're off doing other stuff and, you know, historic pieces and whatever, you know.
There's a lovely Kay Lee. Yet to do an interview. Yes. Yes.
You look at me, didn't you? Yes, yes. Yeah. Brilliant.
She's brilliant in the, the Winzes. Oh, that's right. Really, really funny. It's amazing.
I'm actually cropped up in a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. You don't realize it's good. Yeah.
That's Kay Lee. So it's Charlie a bit like that in real life, getting a bit personal now. I mean, you know, does he chase after the women like that? Or is he quite sort of reserved when it comes to that?
Yeah. Yeah. Has a very nice girlfriend if I'm allowed to say that. Oh, yeah.
Very fond of it. That's nice. But yeah, no, he's always been quite quite, in a deserved. Now, whose game was this or was this just a props thing?
Or was it an actual game? A props thing. The guys were kind of invented it and did it on the... Yeah.
So he was just outside the caravan with the electronics doing that. Right. Right. And it came up on the screen.
Right. I don't know about you. I don't know how surreal this is for you. Just to see that.
Yeah. Because I've watched it on my own or with other people. But to be sat in the same room with Martin Mucklow watching Martin Mucklow is a very, very strange experience. Yeah, smart and mucklow.
The button down shirt. Reverse the black leather. What is that? He's a man's man.
The large, handsomely. There we go. There we go. Look at that.
That's quite different. We'll actually get any kind of note out of that thing. Really? Yeah.
Coming up is, for me, the line of the whole... This country. There it is. And watching it.
I love that line. I don't know why. I don't know why. It's not a particularly funny line, but I love it.
It always makes me laugh as well. It's the fact that there's a random lawn mower. Just like the caravan. It's so good.
That's great. The lighting there, isn't it? It's just... But it's a magic with the bottles of beer.
So you have so many things and they have to make sure that the quantity and the bottle of beer you've had. We've had a sweet and hot water. Yeah, you forget about that. It's really...
You know. So, because at this point, it almost looks like he's enjoying Kerry's company. It's sort of like he's letting his guard down a little bit. Yeah, that was an obvious...
And it almost... Yeah, and I think Kerry is feeling that, oh, we've got a bit of a connection here. So when obviously he sits on a later on, not figuratively speaking, I never think they've stayed a little night. It's a play-monophones.
Oh, no. No, have you actually owned a flight simulator? This is the thing. I think the kids have done it on computer or something.
I used to give up. I could never take off. He's almost not like Mark. He's looking at it.
No, I haven't seen this for a couple years. So, because that was the thing. He was off the bed. Off the bed going.
And then I love you. So, you got to ruin it right at the... It's just great one line as they come out with in their scripts, isn't it? Great dialogue.
Oh, yeah. My time was that fuck off. How did they do it? Because you hit them, you know, they kind of...
Everything's left for the last minute, you know, like the last series, they wrote in a very, very short time. Yeah. And changed it twice, you know, a lot of episodes and whatever. And so how they...
How they did that, I don't know. They were writing up to the very last... So, when you're doing your scenes, is there much rewriting then, or is it locked down pretty much? So what's on the script page then?
That's what you've got to do. It's... There is... No, there is...
It changes quite a bit. Because they'll say, cut this out, cut this out, cut this out, cut this out, cut this out. Can you do this line instead? So they do about four or five different takes, and I do an Abilid one as well.
But there's a script editor there. Lovely, I can't remember the name of the ex, I'm dreadful with names. Who was script editor on the office? Oh, right.
And she's absolutely... So she's like, well, no, you can't say that because in, you know, episode one, you do this and all that kind of stuff. So she's so on the ball, she's absolutely brilliant. Because that was another question.
I think we might have had this on a mailbag episode, maybe not. The kids in episode one, are they's Andrew's kids that you're pushing on the... Yeah, I meant to be. I think that was a bit of a faux pas, wasn't it?
Because I think it was two. Yeah, there was two. But they should be on their boat. Yeah, because then in the aftermath, they're more bigger than toddlers, aren't they?
Yeah, I think that was a part of the book. I said it might not necessarily be Sandra's. It might be another... Another lot he's got there.
It's very easy, it's very easy. It's very easy, it's very easy. No. It's very easy.
Yeah. It's very easy. Yeah. See, it's by the end.
That was kind of outlet. Right. You know all this stuff. You're a comic genius.
I know it's coming out of these little ad-libslet. Well, darling, it's taken years of action to the brand. It's fine. It's fine.
It's... Back and back, which said to me, what's it? Paul to Paul. There's a market in Bucklow at all of us.
Oh, yeah. And I said, Martin... No, that was me. Sorry.
You see that was it. I was it. Yeah, that was it. Oh, fantastic.
Oh my God. Oh, dear. So, I mean, that's some real good, you know, poor, you know, proper actors and some of you kind of being slugs just going and just kind of... Yeah.
Shits all over it. Yeah. Shits houses. But what we are, shits houses.
There isn't a scene with Martin McEloe and the Vico, is there? In any of those. Not all then. That's the one I'm dreading.
I actually... Because Proctraver is a proctor. Proctraver. So, you know, Proctraver has been an actor for 40 years.
Yeah. In films, you know, you know, he's in it. And, in fact, I was doing a bit, there was a bit in the second series when I was drove the van up and shouted it. Kerry.
Yeah. And then was there kind of looking. And I just fucked up every single time. So they had to redo it, she goes later.
Because Big Brother was there. For the right, right. That's the bit where I felt under pressure for him. Really?
Yeah. So has he been supportive or has he been like a big brother? Like your shit? No, no, no.
Because he said, like, do you want to come up? Because we did the reading. We read a few episodes up in London before the first series. You know, because, you know, he didn't know what I was going to be like, whatever.
And he said, well, that was good. Well done. Do you want to come up and give me some advice? Whatever we talk.
I said, no, thanks. Yeah. Just, I know that sounds bad. But I just didn't want to be, in front enough, the first scene where I'm looking down, he said, you're taught never ever to do that.
But of course, this is a mockumentary. Yeah. You know, so it's bizarre. Sometimes the more you, the more you know, I just didn't, I just didn't.
Less natural, yeah. Yeah. I suppose. Yeah.
Yeah. Possibly. Because sometimes I was saying to power, even like when you see some of the top actors, you can tell they're acting in certain things. Yeah.
It is. But it's like, I mean, just, we've just seen that bit then when Katie's gone into the caravan. It's those little moments, like putting up your trousers and you're extending your fingers. You're extending your fingers, like you're getting prepared for something.
It's those little moments that you wouldn't. We didn't know that she, we just said, I'll just run off. We didn't actually run to the fucking wall. Like, ah, I had to go all the way and chase her, bring her back.
That happened about four times. We're actually still going here. Yeah. Look, she's still fucking good.
But it works well, doesn't it, like that? Yeah. Is she still going to the woods though? Yeah.
She's going to the woods though. That's the risk of this. That's true. With the fox twins.
And Paul carries, just stuck in the middle of it all. No, they use these facial expressions, right? They are genius. The looks of camera, we've spoken about it time and time again.
Is that something that she's always done since a child? Yeah. Yeah. She was from the age of two, you could just tell.
She's natural. You know, Charlie's nature nurture. You know, she's nature. And she picked up a huge break for the age of two, foam, microphone, sang along to Miss Saigon.
Oh, right. Can you sort of, oh, this is just, she had something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's always had that kind of stuff.
It's just, That's Martin there trying to appease Kerry. No, you see the V in the back of my trousers. Yeah. Because those are the jeans I was fitting.
It's so small. So they're about five minutes before they had a huge patch. It's like a thick mark. That was the whole, the big dipper in, was it?
Big ass. This is, this is the heartbreak instead of this. And he just don't give a shit, does he? Shit house.
Shit house. Shit house. No, that's fucking shit. Now.
So it's a balancing act, isn't it? Because you've got people that, well, look at you and say you're a shit house. But then they also think you've got a big dipper. I mean, there's swings around about it, isn't it?
So which of you? Well, a lot of people come back to me and go, blows go. Really legend. Yeah.
Yeah. Fucking up. Fucking up. Lucky legend.
You know? You're a legend. Yeah. You know, it's just a spire.
It's a spire. It's a spire. It's a spire. It's a nasty piece of.
Yeah. That's so much inspiration. Yeah. I wouldn't mind.
Look at me as if I'm a role model for that. You know, yeah, teach my life. Yeah. It's crazy.
It is. But I mean, everybody knows a dozen people that are like, might in my coach. You know what I mean? Characteristics and stuff.
You know, I mean, I've done my head like a thing of three. Yeah. I mean, I know. Yeah.
And it's crazy. It's a deal when you say that. I just like you. Yeah.
Do you? And it's like this brilliantly. Yeah. And it's performance of the second.
Just, yeah. So the marks improvement, isn't it? Yeah. He's the only one that I see that sort of every sort of glancing at the camera.
He also glancing. But again, as it's a mock ministry, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter.
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Well, yeah.
Curtin just looks like he's trying. He looks like he's got his anywhere. He does. He's a waggadowat.
He's like, come on down. He's like James Dean. After the camera. He's the most photogenic.
Person in the world. He is. Just so photogenic. He is.
And the women love it. Mm. Hello. I'm drinking.
Yeah. A part time piece. Well, Stevie Wonder's best song. Song.
It was, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, just the photo part that was from Stevie Wonder.
Yeah. It was, yeah. And we didn't know what we were going to do with the fight. No one would just said, oh, certainly each other.
Shut up. You're kicking the ass about three times. Fucking her as well. Yeah.
See. I'm like, I swear. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
You can swear. I don't like an adjective. It's one emotional. Again, we've done it again.
We're talking like Brian Clef, Malcolm Muggeridge. Yeah. I mean, all the young kids are really getting these. Yeah.
We like to say that. Anything from the 70s. Yeah. 60s.
That's us. Yeah. That's our era. See that?
No, shit out. Pike clean. Is that a name you called Charlie Pike cleaner? Is that?
I've never called him Pike cleaner. No, not. Not really. No.
That was in the script. Yeah, there they go. Look at this. It's like proper UFC.
Was that? Was that? I've lived. Very good.
Yeah. Hopefully gypsy Rawls. He's fucking kicking me. He hits quite a bit.
It's on all frages. It's on fire with the Bridget Jones fight. And then he's surrounding, calling for a slap in each other. Yeah.
No, we've got to assume that Kerry had the key to your caravan. You just left it unlocked with that high tech computer. Over the console. That's very hard.
This is a so nice. Sad one. That was cold. We were absolutely freezing.
I can imagine, actually. So are we under the apprehension now that they've just got border fighting? You've had a fight. You've got to make up.
That's what I'm about to do. Yeah. But do you think that they've actually landed punches? I think Kerry's certainly going to have to cut the times when they've got our boxes.
It's just something. So far for about an hour. Yeah. And what is it about Thursday nights with Martin McRucin?
Like every Thursday nights, something's going on. Well, it's kind of new Friday, isn't it? OK. Thursday night in the 70s is like the old Friday.
Oh, this is a new Friday. Yeah, it's not like that anyway. And there you go. 11th memory of Alan Taylor.
No. You need to listen to the one with Simon and Tom to find out all about that. Indeed. Indeed, yes.
Yes, well done, Neil. So it was bringing that on there. I thought ball analogy. That was excellent.
It was. It was. It became a two arms. That was, wasn't it?
But there you go. So that's the episode five of series one. And Tom. And may I say so?
Very well done. Thank you. Very well done. I think you wouldn't have known it was your first ever TV role.
No, you wouldn't. You would never. I thought you'd been at the Globe for years. Wow.