77: How to Sell Without Feeling Salesy: The Steve Jobs Strategy for Designers + Creatives

What do interior designers, creatives, and wellness founders have in common? Most of them hate selling—but still need to do it daily.In this episode, John sits down with Christopher Francis, engineer-turned-entrepreneur and founder of Home Plunge, the world’s first cold plunge designed for your home bathtub. Drawing inspiration from Steve Jobs and his own experience bridging product design with human connection, Christopher shares how to sell without being pushy, pitchy, or fake.Inside this conversation:✔ How to guide clients who “don’t know what they want”✔ The art of showing—not telling—your expertise✔ What every creative can learn from cold plunges and consumer feedback✔ Why authenticity is your best sales strategy✔ The power of solving real problems beautifullyIf you’ve ever second-guessed your prices, held back a bold idea, or felt icky about closing the deal—this episode is for you.More on HomePlunge:WEBSITE: https://www.thehomeplunge.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/homeplunge/To get your NOW $300 Discount using code: MCCLAINText Me a Message!FREE VIDEO TRAINING DIRECT FROM JOHN:Design feels natural.The business side doesn’t.Join this free 39-minute training for interior designers and learn the 3 secrets to building a profitable, stress-free design business without burnout or chaos.👉 Watch the free training: https://learn.mcclainmethod.com/dsa_webinar_registrationSupport the show🌟 For all things John and The McClain Method, head to: www.mcclainmethod.com https://mcclainmethod.com/ for information on coaching, memberships, & more!Sign up for my free 40 min training: The 3 Things I Wish I Had Known Before Becoming an Interior Designer https://www.mcclainmethod.com/dsa_webinar_registration📕 Order a signed copy of John's book: The Designer Within (or purchase anywhere books are sold!) https://johnmcclaindesign.com/designerwithin Connect With John!YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@mcclainjohnInstagram https://www.instagram.com/themcclainmethodFacebook https://www.facebook.com/mcclainmethodLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejohnmcclain/