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EPISODE · Feb 10, 2026 · 38 MIN

8.08: This Reality, That Reality, and the One We Choose to Live In

from Find The Outside

On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on two recent conversations with Meg Buzzi and Chris Keevil and follow the threads that emerged long after the recording stopped. What unfolds is a wide-ranging, deeply human dialogue about courage, leadership, imagination, and how we decide what really matters in turbulent times.They explore the tension between reflection and action, the false choice between staying informed and staying well, and what it means to make a “true move” when certainty is impossible. Along the way, they consider the role of escapism, joy, embodiment, and imagination - not as avoidance, but as essential capacities for resilience, empathy, and meaningful action.This episode is an invitation to question whose reality we are centering, to resist being hijacked by fear or outrage, and to remember that tending to what gives life and meaning is not separate from changing the world - it’s foundational to it.RESOURCES:Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.comFacebook & Instagram: @findtheoutsideLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at [email protected] Meg BuzziRead Meg’s new book, “The In-Between”Learn about Meg’s company - fixchrMeet Chris KeevilCanoe Kayak CanadaDee Hock, Chaordic OrganizationsSandpiper VenturesOliver Burkeman – Author of Four Thousand WeeksArawana Hayashi, Founder of Social Presencing TheaterDr. Martin Shaw, Mythologist and StorytellerLucas Jones, Author of I Still Believe in Miracles Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today’s episode, Tim and Tuesday reflect on two recent conversations with Meg Buzzi and Chris Keevil and follow the threads that emerged long after the recording stopped. What unfolds is a wide-ranging, deeply human dialogue about courage, leadership, imagination, and how we decide what really matters in turbulent times.They explore the tension between reflection and action, the false choice between staying informed and staying well, and what it means to make a “true move” when certainty is impossible. Along the way, they consider the role of escapism, joy, embodiment, and imagination - not as avoidance, but as essential capacities for resilience, empathy, and meaningful action.This episode is an invitation to question whose reality we are centering, to resist being hijacked by fear or outrage, and to remember that tending to what gives life and meaning is not separate from changing the world - it’s foundational to it.RESOURCES:Learn more about, and follow, The Outside by visiting and liking all of our channels:Website: www.findtheoutside.comFacebook & Instagram: @findtheoutsideLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/findtheoutsideConnect with us at [email protected] Meg BuzziRead Meg’s new book, “The In-Between”Learn about Meg’s company - fixchrMeet Chris KeevilCanoe Kayak CanadaDee Hock, Chaordic OrganizationsSandpiper VenturesOliver Burkeman – Author of Four Thousand WeeksArawana Hayashi, Founder of Social Presencing TheaterDr. Martin Shaw, Mythologist and StorytellerLucas Jones, Author of I Still Believe in Miracles Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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