*8.4 Makkos Daf 06 B (10 lines Dn)*

*8.4 Makkos Daf 06 B (10 lines Dn)*_To download this shiur with Tosfos, click here:_ http://chilp.it/cad6764*Summary**Gemara:**Rav Zutra bar Tuvia* quoting *Rav: ‘Individual eidus’ is invalid* as the _passuk_ states: “He shall not be killed by the word of one witness”. This cannot refer to testimony given by one witness, as the _passuk_ already states: “He shall be killed by the mouth of _two witnesses_ ”, it means that even if there _are_ two witnesses but they did not witness it together (each one saw the crime from a different window), their *eidus* is not accepted.A *beraisa* also teaches thus: “He shall not be killed by the word of one witness”. He cannot be killed by the word of *two witnesses* who saw the crime from two *different windows* but did not see each other. Their testimony cannot be combined *even if they saw* the crime *from the same window,* but not at the same moment.*Rav Papa* commented to *Abayye:* Why would we think that their testimony could be combined when the crime is witnessed from one window? They’re each *only witnessing part of the crime!**Abayye:* (You’re right if they witnessed a murder. But) here we’re discussing a case of a man who came upon *an _eishes ish,_* where each one witnessed a full crime.*Rava:* If the individual _eidus_ *saw the masreh* (individual giving the warning, 8.3), *or he saw them*°, their *testimony is accepted.**Rava:* Even the murderer *himself can be* considered the *_masreh_* (if he says I know what I’m doing). *Even a sheid* can be the _masreh_ (it doesn’t have to be a human. We don’t follow the ruling of Rabbi Yosi that the witnesses must give the warning).______________*°Tosfos:* And there are witnesses who testify to that effect. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate