Tonight on 360, more fallout from former president Tateville Rally here in New York, and you're reporting on what one of the ugliest voices on stage almost called by President Harris in his prepared remarks. Also tonight, new early voting numbers in the story that we're thinking about where the race is heading, and how far can Rudy Giuliani actually fall? Will he lose his Florida condo in addition to his New York apartment as he's spewed the fame into election war crimes? Good evening, thanks for joining us tonight.
There is one more of the kind of normal campaign events you see a little more than a week out from the election day. This is the Harris Rally in Michigan, and we'll bring you any news that comes from it. The story of the moment, however, continues to be the former president's heat-filled event last night at Madison Square Garden. Not normal in any conventional sense of the word, but not surprising either.
Certainly revealing what the candidate wants voters to hear in the campaign's closing days, and let's face it, it's a preview of the kind of things we'll be hearing off a lot of in the next four years if Donald Trump wins. I want to point out with just a single exception, neither Trump, his running mate nor the campaign, have disavowed any of what was said. Now, here's the exception with the warning that like so much of what we're playing tonight, it's offensive. You know, there's a lot going on.
Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico. That's a guy called Tony Hinchcliffe who calls himself a comedian last night. The Trump campaign says that remark, quote, does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.
But again, that's the only remark they disavowed. Today in Wisconsin, running mate JD Vance, by the way, would not even do that. I haven't seen the joke. I, you know, maybe it's a stupid racist joke, as you said.
Maybe it's not. I haven't seen it. I'm not going to comment on the specifics of the joke, but I think that we have to stop getting so offended at every little thing in the United States of America. I'm just, I'm so over it.
So, over it. There you go. A little bit of both sizing, a touch of gaslighting, and a big dollar but yes. He's over it.
So, you know, like, no, for instance, everyone. As for now, as for not having seen the remarks Wisconsin, maybe cheese, but it is not the dark side of the moon. And in the case, he was actually at the garden to hear the remarks. So, in case Mr.
Vance may be watching, let's just play some. What else was spewed at this rally, none of which the campaign has yet to disavow it. And yes, it's who was offensive. This one is about Latinos, and if their children in the room, you might want to mute the sound.
And these Latinos, they love making babies too. Just know that. They do. They do.
There's no pulling out. They don't do that. They come inside, just like they did to our country. Yeah.
So, that's Puerto Rico and Latinos. He also thought about a black man. Cool. Black guy with a thing on his head.
What the hell is that? A lampshade? Look at this guy. Oh, my goodness.
I'm just kidding. That's one of my buddies. He had a Halloween party last night. We had fun.
We carved watermelons together. It was awesome. He also met Jewish people as tight with money. And of course, none of this should come as a surprise to the campaign.
One campaign advisor told CNN they knew enough in advance about his intended remarks to at least veto a joke in which he called the Vice President Harris the C-word, something that Eli Musk actually does a new campaign ad which tries to make a joke out of it. However, that same advisor says the campaign was not given a draft, which included some of the comedians more in decent jokes. And another advisor suggested that no one had reviewed his remarks in full. A lot of advisors seemingly had no idea about this, but it wasn't just a series of racist comments from a so-called stand-up.
There was this from a radio talk show host. You got homeless and veterans, Americans, Americans sleeping on their own PCs on a banks in Central Park. But the f***ing illegals they got whatever they want, don't they? Well, there's also this for me.
Businessman and internet personality. She's a fake. I'm not here to invalidate her. She's a fake.
A fraud. She's a pretender. Her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country. In case you missed the implication there, he was calling the Vice President of the United States and Democratic candidate for President of the prostitute.
That's really candidate that he is supporting. Now, if Trump wasn't so spineless, he might have stood on the podium and criticized some of what his warm-up acts were spewing out, but of course he didn't. He called Harris as a low IQ individual, called Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, a racist lawyer against Native Americans, who repeated lies about hurricane relief such as this one, which led to threats against hurricane relief workers. They haven't even responded in North Carolina.
They haven't even responded. There's nobody. They don't see any female. You know why?
They spent their money on bringing in illegal migrants, so they didn't have money for Georgia and North Carolina and Alabama and Tennessee and Florida and South Carolina. They didn't have any money for them. They spent all of their money on bringing in illegal immigrants and flying them in by beautiful jet planes. By now, for all the times he said it, that lie must sound almost like background noise.
Marking the sixth anniversary of the mass shooting at Pittsburgh Street Life synagogue for a gentleman Doug Emhoff made a case for why he thinks it should not be. He demeans immigrants with the same hateful slurs hurled at our ancestors, vermin, animals who poison the blood of our country. He scapegoats Jewish voters right to our faces. Saying that if he loses, it will be the fall of Jews.
He looks at Adolf Hitler's generals and sees something to admire. Just let that sink in. As the first gentleman earlier tonight, the Harris campaign put on a new ad referring to the Slurgen's Puerto Rico. Here's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean.
I think it's called Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. I will never forget what Donald Trump did. He abandoned the island and offered nothing more than paper towels and insults.
Puerto Ricans deserve better. You don't understand our team has seen him political analysts and commentators. If it acts rather than your tongue says that turned in Republicans got Jennings or Republican strategy and in a varo who is a Harris supporter. These days, David, I mean, seems like the Trump campaign is fine with this other than trying to disavow one comment about Puerto Rico.
Well, you know, a disavowal of any kind from the Trump campaign is unusual. So I think it's some acknowledgement that this was, this did not go off the way they hoped it would go off the way they thought it would go off the way it would go off the way it would go off the way it would go off the way. I mean, I don't know because to me, it was like this bizarro open night night at some sort of hate filled comedy club where a bunch of people just stood up and said the most tasteless things that they could say. And I don't know why they think that might help their campaign.
I really do think they're going where Trump can draw big crowds because he measures everything in terms of how big they are crowds and ratings and so on. And so that's why they're ending up in places that aren't necessarily battleground states. But I don't think this is a marginal race, Anderson. Anything can tip this race and something like this heading into the final week of the campaign is unhelpful to them and I think unwatch.
And I mean, you're JD Vance saying that people need to stop quote, getting offended at every little thing. Is this much ado about nothing? You know, there's a bunch of jokes going around the internet about how JD Vance had sex with a couch. If he doesn't want to take offense at that, that's his jurisdiction.
I'm going to take offense at people calling my community trash. I'm going to take offense at people making jokes about black people. I'm going to take offense at people calling the first woman who might be president a prostitute. I'm going to take offense about all of that.
JD Vance is free to do whatever he wants. But listen, this idea that this doesn't reflect Donald Trump is simply false. Let us just remember what Donald Trump has been saying for the last few days. He's been throwing around the term about how immigrants have turned America into the trash can of the world.
That trash word came out of his trash mouth. And let us remember that Donald Trump treated Puerto Rico like trash. Let us remember the way he threw paper towels at needy people after Hurricane Maria. The second class response to Maria in comparison to the red states that had gotten hurricanes that same year.
Let's remember when it was reported that he talked about trading Puerto Rico or selling it off, trading it for Greenland. This should not come at the surprise. I've been saying it for years. Donald Trump is a racist.
If you are voting for him, does that make you a racist? That's up to you. But it does mean you are okay with racism. And that is why this comedian said this because he knows it is okay with Donald Trump and it is okay with that crowd.
Which is why Donald Trump took the stage, the podium, four and a half hours after the comedian had made those faceless jokes when it was already a five alarm fire. Every major Puerto Rican star had come out and condemned it. Republicans in Florida had come out and condemned it. But Donald Trump took that podium and was incapable of saying one word against those racist comments because he believes them.
Scott, I know you were critical earlier today with the social media and said I want to play another clip of Trump's rally. This is part of what Tucker Carlson said to warm up the crowd. It's going to be pretty hard to look at us and say you know what? Kamala Harris, she's got 85 million votes because she's so impressive.
As the first Samoan Malaysian low IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president. You worked in the Bush City White House or close out Vice Interimitch McConnell. None of them would come within 100 miles of this stuff. Does it make you sad that this is what a Republican rally sounds like a week before the election?
Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. I'm not going to sit here and pretend like it's good or helpful. I mean some of the things that were said by some of these people I've never heard of before.
Maybe it works on a podcast. Maybe it works on a radio show. But when you're trying to win an election and you're trying to put on a face for your party and for your presidential campaign, it doesn't work at all. I mean it's stupid.
It's a distraction. I'm sure from what the Trump campaign wanted to do. In fact, if you look at their TV ads from Sunday that they released and you listen to what Trump said at the rally, it's clearly not on the same measure. They want to talk about the economy and immigration, not all this stupid stuff.
But also let me just put my strategist hat on here for a second. I'm also not going to pretend that if you've lived for the last nine years with Donald Trump and lived through everything, everything he's done, his presidency, the attacks, everything that's happened. You know, is a no-name comedian's comments or a radio host comments or even Tucker Carlson's comments going to change your opinion for better or worse. I doubt it.
And finally, I would just say if you're offended by this and I totally think it's perfectly fine to be offended by it because some of the things that were said were offensive. But if you're offended by this, people from the entertainment industry saying vile and offensive things in the context of politics, Kamala Harris certainly has entertainment industry supporters that have said violent, offensive things, not all of them are at her rallies. But if you look at some of the lyrics and other production that they've done, it is terrible, violent, offensive. So if we're all going to professionally faint tonight, I would just say, what's that's interesting.
Was that introducing for a rally? I said it's not all been done. It's not all been done at any of her events. Right, it had been done at any of her events.
Some of her people, some of her people that are her most ardent supporters, have said things about women and domestic violence and the treatment of women and other issues that are truly beyond the pale. So I do think when you're in the entertainment industry, you get edgy and this is what you get when you put the Metric political rally. Um, I said, I want to put something that Trump said at this rally. The United States is now an occupied country.
I will launch the largest deportation program in American history. And I'm here by calling for the death penalty for any migrant that kills an American citizen or law before the opposite. And when I say the enemy from within, the other side goes crazy. Becomes a salvo.
How can he say, you know, they've done very bad things to this country. They are indeed the enemy from within. But this is who we're fighting. Um, I mean, does this help him?
Do you think? Uh, I think the electoral is important here, but probably not sufficient to really get at the scope of what's happening. Does this make this does the kind of hate feel bigoted right away coming from Donald Trump, making him invalidated or lose his support for next week? Probably not altogether.
Do you think like I said, a lot of this has been baked in with Trump. That doesn't mean it's irrelevant. He is an unpopular presidential figure and the anti-Trump coalition that Democrats have rallied in 2020 and 2022 exist because he has made it a central kind of plank of his rhetoric and platform to frankly target others as political opponents. And he does that even on issues that folks agree with him at the premise on like immigration, the mass deportations, the language of vermin, the language of focus poisoning the blood of the country is not a, is not a happenstance rhetoric from Trump.
It's been core to his belief system, and ideology. And I would say that this 2024 is even more so than 2016 and 2020. We're thinking of some of the most baffling strategic decisions they've made. I think even back to the selection of JD Vance a couple months ago, that has been tracked to the Tucker Carlson, to this kind of masculinity ecosystem.
They're trying to raise an army of these type of folks, and we know that this is, that the Harris campaign has been using this on the other side as a way to rally around their base too. And I think the Democratic side is helped more so than this than the Republicans. David, I mean it's certainly a reminder of people of what the next four years will be like. I mean these folks can be, you know, white house, they're telling jokes.
It's so repulsive to chase some of this rhetoric down. But the bigger question is, what does it portend? And I think Harris has been smart to start raising this question that she started at your town hall. He's coming with an enemy's list.
I'm coming with a to-do list. My to-do list is going to be your concerns. He's going to be worried about himself and how he reeks vengeance and all those he thinks have trespassed on him. And I really do think that's the choice that they should focus on.
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And even Ken joins us now with more. How else has the fallout from this Madison Square Garden event impacted the Harris campaign? Well, Anderson, I can tell you that the message here tonight from the Vice President was leaning on Michigan voters to vote early. She pledged to do all that she could, if elected, to pursue policies to bring down the cost of living.
There was another notable moment tonight when young people were protesting over Gaza. That's not unusual. That is a regular or current of Democratic events. But what struck me is what she said in response to them.
She said, unlike the former president, I don't believe in the enemy from within. We are all here fighting for democracy. And I understand your desire to be heard. But listen, here in Ann Arbor, a heavily Democratic county, she's trying to drive up the numbers in places like this one across the state.
President Biden won this county by over 50 points in 2020. She's trying to replicate that success. Even Ken, thanks so much back now with the panel. David, where do you think the race is?
I honestly, I just was reading a piece in your paper saying that Trump aides were quietly. I mean, Harris aides were quietly getting more optimistic. I think it's a dead even race. I think you see these models, analytic models that have Trump ahead by a whisker.
But that essentially is a tied race. I think all these battleground states are well within the margin of error. So I think it's going to come down to who mobilizes their vote. It's going to come down to whether there are, in fact, Republican voters and white non-college women who are not saying that they're going to vote for Harris, but are going to vote for Harris.
And it's going to be whether black voters and young voters and Hispanic voters approximate or come close to some of the numbers that Biden produced in 2000. And those are all open questions right now. I said you were just wearing Georgia. Yeah, what do you see other?
It feels like David's point of a 278 race, something that's really close. And I think I grouped the identified are certainly the ones to look for from the shift of 2020 until now. Can Harris rally around a working class kind of multicultural base that did seem to sour on Biden? Can Trump kind of get out those lower-perency voters or make his losses in the suburbs lesser than they were in the midterms?
And I think those are kind of big open questions here. But would you rather be the campaign who's candidate tonight in Atlanta, Trump is clarifying, I am not the Nazi? Or would you rather be a campaign in Harris that is landing their message, knows their targeted voters, and is actually feeling pretty good about it as the race is closer and closer. Before the Harris campaign, even back when it was the Biden campaign, they believed that as election day got nearer, Donald Trump would re-remind America of his extremism.
Last night's rally did that for them. And that is their plan of how they closed the deal in this race. It's the way we create those type of coalitions we saw in the midterms based on Donald Trump's own incong donation on that front. Last night they got that.
And the former president went after Michelle Obama during his rally in Atlanta tonight. I just want to play this. You know what's nasty to me? Michelle Obama.
She's a little bit more. I always tried to be so nice in respect for who she opened up a little bit of a box. She opened up a little bit of something. She was nasty.
She wouldn't be that way. That was a big mistake that she made. The list, I mean it's so interesting that there's no new tricks that this guy has. I mean the whole nasty thing is something that's just gone over again and again.
Any woman, particularly a black woman, is a word he uses. It's like he's just playing to type. Well, what can I tell you? I don't know.
He's got very few words to play with. But I think he brings home the point that Barack Obama has been talking about when he talks about Trump. Here he is, this billionaire with all of these other, and all he does is whine and complain and bitch and moan and he's the victim and whoa is me, boe, aceto, yo. Listen, oh, Anderson, you know what, you missed in the litany of things that you did in the beginning of the racist things that happened last night?
They introduced Byron Donald's, the black congressman from Florida, Trump supporter, to the tune of Dixie Land, the unofficial anthem of the Confederacy. You missed that one in your long list. I know that it's easy to miss with so many other things but going on. Listen, I think yesterday was a man of from heaven.
Yesterday was the October surprise because it reminded people of what they had forgotten, the chaos, the ugliness. What Donald Trump does in emboldening and permitting racism and bigotry and division. And I think it does matter because character does matter. And tomorrow you're going to see a huge contrast with Kamala Harris laying out her final comments.
Scott, where do you think the race is? Well, I actually agree with David. I think it's exceedingly close. You know, there's a lot of Republicans that I talked to who seem to take it as an article of faith that he's going to, meaning Trump is going to overperform his polls just the way he did in 16 and 20.
And he might, and you know, you might be right, but you don't know that. And so I would just caution that it feels close to me. I also feel like Trump has had a pretty good October and he's tracked down this race. I think Harris was ahead at the beginning of the month and he's now effectively caught up.
I do think there's a pretty good percentage chance that if it tips one way or the other, it may tip everywhere, not just in a state or two, but it may tip more broadly. And finally, to me, the real October surprise is that Kamala Harris still, can I answer basic questions about where she wants to take the country? She's not got any better at this than she got into the race. And she's having a real trouble closing her campaign on anything other than a purely negative message on Trump.
I think the mistake they're making is going fully negative and not telling people what would you do as president. People know what Trump would do. He was the president. I still think the deficiency in her campaign is that they don't really know what she would do as a commander in chief.
David, I mean, do you think that's true? Sorry, yes, today. Well, people were attacking Puerto Ricans. Can I just say that yesterday?
Well, people were attacking Puerto Ricans at the Trump rally earlier in the morning. Kamala Harris had released an entire Puerto Rico policy agenda putting out all the different items that she's going to do for Puerto Rico to help the people in Puerto Rico and bring some equity. It's getting hard on agenda. And if you're talking about who are the ones making jokes and doing racism and division, look in the mirror, bud.
David, this idea that she has no plans. He has all these plans. It's ludicrous. No, in fact, I think she's released a more voluminous program to deal with housing and the cost of elder care and a whole range of things that touch on people's lives.
And in fairness, to Scott's point, or at least in fairness to her, the Trump campaign has not run a positive ad in this whole campaign since she got into the race. Every single ad has been aimed at taking her down. I've said before that the challenge for her, she has to introduce herself and fend that off. But I think the frame is there, which is she's put, she is talking about things that touch people's lives will improve people's lives.
And he is engaging in a thoroughly negative campaign. I somewhat think the plans discussion is too small, though, for Harris's big problem in this race. I think if Democrats have a challenge, they have to overcome. It's that they are tied to the status quo and what feels like a change election.
You can put out policies to kind of project how you're different than that. But I think the biggest thing that is really weighing them down on that question was they spent two years defending Joe Biden and kind of defending a status quo administration. That's really unpopular. And so they're still playing catch up on the new way forward question.
That is the problem. That is the limits that she laid out for herself. And the question at the end of the day for voters is are they voting on change from Biden's policies or change from Trump's politics? I think that's why this is such a close one.
We got to go. I said her and David Esteride. Thank you. I think he's got Jenny Sanonavaro as well, coming up, getting out the Latino vote in Arizona.
John King gives us a first hand report on the door knocking efforts there by the Harris campaign campaign part of his all over the map series next. Vice President Harris and Tim Walts will hold a joint rally in Phoenix this week. John King is there now with a focus on Latino voters for his all over the map series, which examines the race through the experiences of key voting blocks in battlefront states. Crunch time in the battlegrounds.
Nice to meet you. My name is Megan. I'm with Lucia, living United for a change in Arizona. One handout promotes the Arizona ballot initiative expanding abortion rights.
The other promotes Kamala Harris and Democratic candidates for the Senate and the House. Do you think that your voice has power in this election? Lucia canvazers are at 600,000 door knocks and counting. They encourage early voting.
Do you know what your polling location is? Many of the targeted homes are Latinos who are registered, but don't always vote. What's the most common question you get at a door knock about the vice president? The most common question we get at a door knock is why Kamala?
Why Kamala? And my answer to that is like, first, she's not a felon. One, she's a strong woman and is a Latino man. We like strong women and we don't like weak men.
Claudia Rodriguez volunteers for Lucha and also runs a community farm and food bank. He has upbeat about Harris' chances here. Says encouraging younger voters to turn out is one big need in this final week. You do get the folks who are like, kind of like, feel hopeless, but then you got to bring them back in.
You get folks who say, like, voting doesn't matter, my vote doesn't matter. And to my response to that is like, whether you believe it matters or not, it still exists. It's like, why not participating in it? What's your vote saying there?
Your little two cents. Tucson is in deep blue Pima County. Biden's giant 2020 edge here was critical, to winning the state by just 10,000 votes. Mickey is one of our biggest sellers.
Tamara Varga is a lifelong Republican who came to Tucson 30 years ago from San Diego. She thought she lived in a blue pocket of a red state. Did it surprise you in 2020? When Biden won Arizona?
Absolutely surprised me. I was not expecting that. Varga owns two candy shops and two food trucks, so she can provide jobs for individuals with special needs, including her sons. She says housing and other costs of living are up.
Her gut says Trump is stronger this time. I feel that Trump's ahead, but I felt that way in 2020 as well. So it's hard to say, you know, I feel that I have had more friends that are open to Trump and are flipping to a Trump vote. And the local friends are doing that?
Do they side a reason? The border and the economy. As people are having a hard time putting food on their table and gas in their cars and it's really affecting them. So I think that they now think about their vote and how it will affect their household.
John, how often does the economy come up when talking to voters in Arizona about their top concerns? In every conversation, not only here in Arizona, but across the country. Let me just show you the mini magic with me. This is the 2020 election map.
Let me bring up this graphic. It is stunning when you take a look at it. This is the cost of living, an analysis across the United States. If you look closely at the graph, the darker the shading in any county is where the cost of living, housing, food prices, other prices have outpaced wages over the last six years or so.
You see all that dark in there? Those are places where housing costs, energy costs and more have outpaced what you're getting paid in your paycheck. So let's zoom in on Arizona. Look how dark this data is.
Most of the counties filled in more dark, including Maricopa County, where I am right now, more than six in 10,000 in North Carolina. Look how punishing the cost of living. That is the headwind facing by President Harris. Turn on the TV here.
Turn on the radio here. She's running out saying her plans as you were just discussing with the panel would help with this. Another thing that might help her though, I understand, is also the conversation you were just tapping. There's no question the cost of living is her headwind.
But there are also two critical voting groups here that are often put off by Trump's rhetoric. That is Latinos and moderates in the fast growing suburbs here. Arizona is just a fascinating test case as we get into the final days. And if Harris wants to duplicate Biden's 2021 in Arizona, where does she have to perform?
Let me show you something else we come back to where we were earlier today. Let me stay in Arizona. Let me blank this out for you here. If you look at the state, if you come back, Joe Biden flips this by 10,400 votes, right?
It doesn't get much closer than that in a state that didn't reliably read. So you can look at, again, Maricopa County is six in 10 people in the state live here. So that's where you're going to focus. That's where both campaigns are focusing.
Look how close it was in Maricopa County, 50.3 to 48.1. Yes, Joe Biden won by a bit there. But where you saw those voters in that piece? That was here in Pima County.
Look at the margin here. This is a big blue area. This is where Harris has to turn out the vote. Biden had a 90,000 plus advantage in that one county, won the state by 10,000.
So you have to go where the Democratic voters are and you have to turn them out. And that's why those canvases are going door to door, especially Latino households who vote sometimes, but not always. All right. John King, stay with us just ahead.
We want to dive into the early vote count already. Tens of millions of Americans have voted. What do those numbers tell us? And more breaking news, Blaineers Bezos, his new op-ed and his newspaper for The Washington Post, his first comments on the anger over the paper is late decision to not publish a presidential endorsement or Brian Seltier joins us ahead.
As of this moment, more than 43 million ballots already have been cast in early voting that's across 47 states in the District of Columbia. We're seeing an as obtained figures. To put that in perspective, that number represents almost 28% of the total number of votes recorded for President 2020. More than the early vote count joined by our political director David Giant back with us also John King.
David, just put the context or in context the significance of the early vote. Well, listen, we saw a revolution of early vote in the pandemic four years ago, Anderson. I don't think we will see early vote make up as large of a share as it did four years ago, but I think we'll see it make up as large of a share in any presidential election other than 2020 in the height of the pandemic. But we will see some shifting to more people participating on election day than we saw as a share of the overall vote back then.
And John, the party, which party is participating more in early voting? Do we know? Well, that's the fascinating. Democrats are still participating more.
But if you go state by state by state and David can correct me, there may be some exception to this, but I know I'm in Arizona going to Moraton, Nevada. In both of these states, the Republican percentage of early voting is up at this point in the election over where it was in 2024. No surprise there because remember Donald Trump spent all the 2020 saying mail voting was early voting, mail voting was open to fraud. Of course, it's not.
So that Republicans are trying to get their voters out earlier. The big question is, are they getting new voters, low propensity voters who might not show up otherwise, or are people just enjoying the convenience of voting early so they don't have to wait in line on election day? We're not going to answer that question. Are we getting a lot of new voters or a lot more Republicans just now getting more comfortable with voting early?
I know that until actually several days after the election when you get final turnout and all of that. But I will tell you quickly though, this helps the campaigns and this becomes a giant test of the turnout to get out the vote operations. Because if you vote early, that's a public record. So they know you have voted.
So then they go knock at the next house where somebody who hasn't voted. We know the Harris campaign, labor unions, that progressive group you saw me with in my piece in the last block earlier today in Pima County. They know what they're doing. They have deep experience at this.
Trump has largely contracted his get out the vote operation out. Maybe they're great. Maybe they'll be perfect. We don't know that yet.
But we know the Democrats and their allies have great experience at this. It allows you and the age of big data to know that person's voted. We don't need to knock at that house. We need to get that other one.
Let's keep going. Let's keep texting. Let's find that person and get them to vote. David, as John mentioned, the Republican participation or voting is higher.
But that doesn't necessarily mean there will be high Republican turnout overall, right? It doesn't. And this is the question I ask political operatives I speak with every day right now, which is you are tracking these voters. Do you know, as we do see, you just put up the pie charts, Anderson, we saw back in 2020 Republicans at this stage eight days out in Arizona, where 34% of the votes had already been cast.
Now I think it's up to 43%. So yes, we are seeing Republicans participate in greater numbers. I ask operatives all the time, do you know if they are just shifting from election day voters to early voters, or if this is new Republican voters coming into the fold, and right now, I will tell you that Democratic operatives tracking this, both in the Harris campaign and in other Democratic statewide campaigns, they think state by state, they just see Republicans participating early, the reliable Republican voters. They don't yet, so they claim, and as John said, we won't know the actual answer to this into election day.
They don't yet see in their tracking that these are new Republican voters, these low-propensity voters, that Donald Trump has a proven ability in 16 and 20 to get out into the fold and be part of his coalition. John, how does it feel on the ground there? Well, it's fascinating to do that. I'm just going to bring up the mini magic again to show you.
Now I was with the canvases today in Pima County. We see a lot of Democratic canvassing. We do not see a lot of Republican canvassing. We could be missing it.
We could be missing it. But Democratic-Kair's campaign, it's progressive allies, they're out there all the time. Pima County, Joe Biden won up by 90,000 votes. Democrats need to maximize turnout there, right?
Maximize turnout in this state. But the last time we were here, not on this trip, we were in Penal County. If you see that, that's a county Donald Trump won up with 58% of the vote, but we were out out with Democratic canvases. A lot of Latinos there who are low-propensity voters, and again, if you get to them early and getting, knocking on the doors, trying to get out to vote.
And so this is a giant test of both the tried and true Democratic operation, which had a lot of experience in 2020 and has built from that. And there's new Trump operation that we're not going to know for a bit, whether it works, but I'll tell you, when you're out in neighborhoods, you don't see that much. They have a challenge. John King, thanks so much.
Now to an incredibly important court hearing today for what remains of Rudy Giuliani about whether he'll be able to keep his million-dollar residence in Palm Beach, Florida, senior crime justice reporter, Kaitlyn Pullance joins us with the latest. So what happened in court today, Kaitlyn? Well, in court, this is Ruby Freeman and Chei Moss going to try to get access to the things that the judge has not allowed them to get access to yet because Giuliani has put up legal arguments. So already, they have been awarded by this judge in federal court in Manhattan.
Giuliani's condo on the Upper East Side, it's worth about $6 million. They're going to be able to sell that off, collect that money. A lot of other luxury items he has, two dozen or so watches, a Rolex, things he got his gifts after 9-11. But what he's fighting about in court still is a condo he owns.
The only other property he owns, it's in Palm Beach, just down the street from our logo where he spends quite a bit of time. It's worth about $3.5 million. And Giuliani argues he lives there. Now, there's been quite a question for some time.
And if he started living there, and even today in court, his lawyers couldn't identify the exact day. That's going to be a question they're going to have to identify. And it will matter whether he can keep it because if it is where he lives, he can keep it in Florida. And the other thing he's trying to hold on to are things of quite a lot of sentimental value to him for World Series rings when the Yankees won in the 90s and then 2000.
His son, Andrew Giuliani claims that he was given to them by his father, even though Rudy still wears one from the Subway series, that all four should be belonging to Andrew Giuliani and then out of the hands of Ruby Freeman and Chei Moss. But they're going hard to get everything. And there's a deadline tomorrow that came up in court as well, that they're going to get all this information or all of these items. Giuliani's also the news because of what he said about his Square Garden last night.
Just want to play some of that. And then they can die even four times and have to stop if they're dying in one more time. He'd have been elected by acclimation. And now I don't know.
I'm not going to do a conspiracy and I'm not going to do a conspiracy. But it's kind of funny that they tried everything else and now they're trying to kill him. They better not try again. Is it clear what standing this guy has in Trump's orbit?
Well, because he asked Trump for money a while back. And he actually claims that the Trump campaign never paid him for his work as a lawyer. And Ruby Freeman and Chei Moss can sue the Trump campaign now theoretically to get that $2 million they owe to Giuliani. But at this time, he's not a top surrogate, but he's still out there for Donald Trump.
And you know, and it's important for us to just remember what this court case is. This is the consequence of what Rudy Giuliani did as Donald Trump's lawyer after the last election spreading disinformation about election fraud in Georgia, speaking about these women in a way that caused them a severe amount of intimidation and threats from Trump supporters. He was disbarred as an attorney. He's being sued by other people who haven't gone to the point of having 150 million judgment against him.
And so it's just a reminder of the harm that these women have faced and why they're being owed $150 million by Giuliani. Okay, we'll pull this next. Appreciate it. For Bezos it might be in this might be the right decision, but at the wrong time.
And he acknowledges in his note tonight, by the way, I've never seen him writing essay like this, it's a reaction to the unprecedented pressure of the post is under. But I think he wrote this tonight because tens of thousands possible even hundreds of thousands of subscribers have bailed on the post in the past few days, even more might do it in the days to come out of fear that he's capitulating to Donald Trump, that he's giving into Trump. But he's also saying that's not the case. He's doing this as a principle decision, but he's doing it on the even election.
And that's really the issue at the heart of this. He acknowledges maybe he had some poor timing, maybe he should have announced this earlier, but he's doing it because he wants to win back people's trust over time. And the short term though, he's lost a lot of his audience's trust. He also wrote this, there's no quid pro quo of any time or there's no quid pro quo of any kind is at work here.
That's a quote. The head of his Blue Origin had met with Trump apparently on the day the announcement was made. And it was an unfortunate total coincidence that person close to Bezos says, no, there's nothing to do with it. There's no quid pro quo.
Here's the thing, there's hard pressure, a quid pro quo, a deal with Trump and then there's a form of soft pressure. And the real concern I'm hearing from post reporters, from editors, from columnist is it the form of soft pressure being applied here. The author of Ontario, the tip of the Snyder is a talk for years about the idea of obeying in advance that in democracies that are studying toward autocracy is people try to obey in advance that wealthy businessmen, the media leaders, the powerful people start to give in to the aspiring authoritarian whims in advance. And that's exactly the concern that exists here.
In fact, Snyder came out of the weekend and said that's what he thinks is happening at the Washington Post, and at the Los Angeles Times. Bezos said who he would vote for in this election? He has not, but the paper under Bezos when he owned the paper did endorse Hillary Clinton in 2016 and endorsed Joe Biden in 2020. Strangely, Anderson, the paper actually endorsed the Maryland Senate Democrat candidate for the Senate just four weeks ago.
So this sudden change in endorsement, it's the timing that creates a controversy. The owner of the Los Angeles Times said not to endorse as well. Yes, and there's been the same kind of fallout, not quite as many subscriber losses, but there is more than 10,000 subscribers canceling subscriptions. It basically an act of protest, the only kind of protest that an audience member can have if you're paying for a publication that you can back out.
And the fear at both the LA Times and the Washington Post is the same, that these owners are giving into pressure from Trump ahead of the election, expecting that he will win. It's interesting, Bezos cites a former editor or owner, I think, of the Washington Post back decades and decades ago as somebody who didn't want there to be endorsements. Right, and this is true 56 years ago, the Post did not endorse, but in modern history, the Post has. More importantly, for a lot of the Post columnists, the opinion writers, they don't believe this is important to endorse Harris as it is to condemn Donald Trump.
They believe Trump is a threat to the American Free Press and that he will impose draconian restrictions. And those fears are palpable in other newsrooms as well. I think that's why the story has resonated so wide and so far. But Bezos, he's saying he's trying to do the right thing, trying to restore trust in the media.
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