#8. DEF CON Goon, Andy Gill (ZephrFish)

Our host, TJ Null, sat down with Andy Gill (ZephrFish) to hear lots of interesting stories from his 15+ years in infosec, including his experience as a Goon at DEF CON (he even met Elon Musk!). They discuss how he got started, his book on learning the ropes, important qualities every pentester and red teamer should have, and more. Hear what ZephrFish advises aspiring pentesters learn and get into before they embark on this path. They also discuss what ZephrFish would like to see changed in the infosec community and how to get there. Enjoy this week’s episode! Andy Gill on Twitter Breaking into Information Security: Learning the Ropes 101 (Andy’s book)