#8 - Helen Dishaw: What We Can Learn From Birds

In this week’s interview episode, we are joined by Helen Dishaw, Curator of Bird Programs at Tracy Aviary and Vice President of The International Association of Avian Trainers and Educators. In this episode, you’re going to hear Emily and Helen talk about:Why birds make great teachersWho’s training who?Owl socializationHow budgies stumped EmilyYou can find the full show notes here.Find some of Pet Harmony's ride or die brands, gear, and fitness equipment through our affiliate partner Paw Prosper. And yes, we promise we actually use this gear with our own pets. 💗Check out Blue-9, FitPaws, Help 'Em Up Harness, and more at http://petharmonytraining.com/fitnessAs an affiliate, we earn a small commission based on purchases from this link.