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EPISODE · Dec 19, 2025 · 1H 37M

8 Months to the Middle East: T.E. Lawrence's Path Revisited #0050

from Whereabouts Tales | Stories of Belonging and Immigrant Experiences · host Paul Puscas | Stories of Belonging and Cultural Exploration

In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Wells Jones, a man whose life story is nothing short of an epic adventure. Wells, along with his partner Miles Spencer, embarked on an audacious journey in 2006, retracing T.E. Lawrence's path through the Middle East. What truly captivated me wasn't just the destination, but the sheer, mind-boggling preparation that went into it.Imagine spending eight months preparing for a trip through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria – not as soldiers, but as civilians, in the volatile post-9/11 era. Wells shares how they had to draft wills, secure international kidnap and ransom insurance, and even undergo specialized conflict and risk assessment training (04:05), led by a former SAS major who once guarded Princes Harry and William. It's truly a testament to their commitment!Their adventure was a fascinating blend of historical exploration and cutting-edge (for 2006!) technology. I was absolutely amazed to hear about their Motorola Razr phones, a satellite phone that doubled as a weapon (07:39), and their Panasonic Toughbook – which I promptly Googled – powered by a roll-out solar panel. And get this: they even had a Broadband Global Access Network (BGAN) terminal for *satellite internet in the desert* (13:34)! This wasn't just a trip; it was a self-contained, high-tech expedition into the unknown.Beyond the gear, Wells shares deeply personal encounters: the chaotic border crossings at gunpoint (20:57), the surprising welcome from Saudi citizens, including Prince Khalid bin Faisal himself, who apologized for 9/11 (26:44). But the most profoundly moving moment for me was hearing about their driver, Mahmoud, a Palestinian whose visceral hatred for Israel was palpable during a tense checkpoint encounter (36:35), and the raw, tearful confession of a Saudi friend whose own village produced 9/11 terrorists (1:11:03). These stories aren't just history; they're heart-wrenching human experiences.Wells and Miles later penned the incredible book, *A Line in the Sand*, which, as I discovered, masterfully blends historical accuracy with captivating fiction, including a time-travel device to revisit pivotal moments. My key takeaway from Wells's wisdom is his emphasis on "graciousness" as a universal language (49:56) and his message to the next generation: trust yourself, fully engage with where you are, cultivate curiosity, and *take action*.This conversation is a powerful reminder that understanding comes from truly listening and immersing yourself in different cultures, not just from headlines. Dive in and prepare to be inspired!

In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Wells Jones, a man whose life story is nothing short of an epic adventure. Wells, along with his partner Miles Spencer, embarked on an audacious journey in 2006, retracing T.E. Lawrence's path through the Middle East. What truly captivated me wasn't just the destination, but the sheer, mind-boggling preparation that went into it.Imagine spending eight months preparing for a trip through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria – not as soldiers, but as civilians, in the volatile post-9/11 era. Wells shares how they had to draft wills, secure international kidnap and ransom insurance, and even undergo specialized conflict and risk assessment training (04:05), led by a former SAS major who once guarded Princes Harry and William. It's truly a testament to their commitment!Their adventure was a fascinating blend of historical exploration and cutting-edge (for 2006!) technology. I was absolutely amazed to hear about their Motorola Razr phones, a satellite phone that doubled as a weapon (07:39), and their Panasonic Toughbook – which I promptly Googled – powered by a roll-out solar panel. And get this: they even had a Broadband Global Access Network (BGAN) terminal for *satellite internet in the desert* (13:34)! This wasn't just a trip; it was a self-contained, high-tech expedition into the unknown.Beyond the gear, Wells shares deeply personal encounters: the chaotic border crossings at gunpoint (20:57), the surprising welcome from Saudi citizens, including Prince Khalid bin Faisal himself, who apologized for 9/11 (26:44). But the most profoundly moving moment for me was hearing about their driver, Mahmoud, a Palestinian whose visceral hatred for Israel was palpable during a tense checkpoint encounter (36:35), and the raw, tearful confession of a Saudi friend whose own village produced 9/11 terrorists (1:11:03). These stories aren't just history; they're heart-wrenching human experiences.Wells and Miles later penned the incredible book, *A Line in the Sand*, which, as I discovered, masterfully blends historical accuracy with captivating fiction, including a time-travel device to revisit pivotal moments. My key takeaway from Wells's wisdom is his emphasis on "graciousness" as a universal language (49:56) and his message to the next generation: trust yourself, fully engage with where you are, cultivate curiosity, and *take action*.This conversation is a powerful reminder that understanding comes from truly listening and immersing yourself in different cultures, not just from headlines. Dive in and prepare to be inspired!

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